This did not happen to me, have not had time to check it out in snopes, but have heard this before from some different sources. Any Whooooo, this is not something that our Government should even be interested in.

"I didn't have this happen, but then I wasn't at a V.A. doctor's office. A friend did run into a little of this when he had to visit a doctor other than his regular doctor when his doctor was on vacation. One of the questions on the form he had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?? His answer was "None of your damn business!!" So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obama care) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!


Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners...Thanks
From a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer:

I had a doctor’s appointment at the local V.A. clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along.

While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:
1. Did I feel stressed?
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.

Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware.

The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !

If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom. Your medical records are all in the hands of the federal
government. Obamacare did that to us.

I would not put a lot of credibility to this piece of information about the possibility of losing a CCW permit through questions at a VA clinic.

However, IF a person does have a CCW permit AND feels like he wants to do harm to himself and/or others, MAYBE that person should not have the CCW permit anymore.

Do you feel that a CCW permit should never be taken away once it is obtained?

No, if there is a medical reason to revoke the permit I see no problem with that. But the ambigous question about stress is a leading question, for we all have stress in our daily lives and if that question is going to be used to revoke the permit then it should also apply to all our elected officials and if they have stress, then they should be removed from office.

Pediatricians' inquiries about guns in the home could go in the government electronic medical record, too.

It's amazing and appalling to me that, while Roe v. Wade decision centers mainly on the right to privacy and keeping doctor-patient confidentiality, at the same time leftists want the government single-payer health system and for the government to have all of our medical records with no choice for private care.

May 09, 2011

WASHINGTON -- The Florida state legislature has passed a bill that would make it illegal for pediatricians and other physicians to ask patients or their parents whether they have guns in their home.

Pediatricians often ask the question at initial well-child visits as a platform to discuss how to safely store guns in the home in order to prevent accidental shootings.

But under the law -- expected to be signed soon by Florida's governor -- doctors would face a $500 fine for inquiring about gun ownership and recording it in a patient's medical record. That fine would increase if a physician asked about guns at more than one visit.

The National Rifle Association (NRA), the main backer of the legislation, says questions about firearms don't belong in the doctor's office.

The association also charges that the American Academy of Pediatrics is pushing an anti-gun agenda and that such questions in a medical setting infringe on patients' Second Amendment rights......"

http://www.medpagetoday.com/PublicHe...icHealth/26385

Doctors have no need to know about guns in your house. On the other hand if you are not a responsible gun owner and allow children or unauthorized persons to have access to your firearms, then your right to own firearms should be taken. All rights come with responsibilities and if you are not adult enough to take the responsibility to correctly store and use firearms, then you lose that right.

Don't confuse getting a drivers license with the right to own firearms. Driving is a privilege granted by the state and not a right as most people believe. There is nothing in the Constitution that grants the right to own or drive a vehicle.

One of the things that I admire Florida about is this states following of the Constitutional rights granted by that document. In 1986, when Florida passed the first concealed carry law, all the anti-gun nuts screamed that there would be blood flowing in the streets as every little arguement would be settled by a gun fight. The only thing that happened is that violent crime went down. Seems that you have a greater chance of being shoot by a Law Enforcement Officer than you do a CWL holder.

we are in a lot more danger from some folks here in TV that should not be driving either at their age or with a medical condition.

Obviously in FL and many other states the licensing process for guns or automobiles or boats et al is not the capability distinguishing process....however IT SHOULD BE!!!

btk

Sadly I have to agree with you billethkid. But we all know that it boils down to dollars. If the state can make a profit issuing licenses for anything and make money, that is what they will do. Especially now, with all the debt piling up.

This has all the signs of what snopes calls "glurge".

There are no references. No mention of WHO the doctor was or WHERE the clinic was. It also always happens to "a friend" who's name is never mentioned. There's no mention of what statute might be quotes - no mention of anyone who might have lost their CCW permit and let's not forget that those are STATE permits and the DHS is a FEDERAL agency.

Never mind the fact that "Obamacare", by and large HASN'T HAPPENED YET - so all this talk about what "Obamacare" *did* is IMPOSSIBLE since nothing's been DONE. Heck it's still being held up in the courts with the exception of the "covering kids under 26" rule.

...and the parents of the kids under 26 are thanking President Obama for having a law that allows them to be on the parent's policy.

How could any of you uber-conservatives be against that?

Whether Obamacare has or hasn't happened yet is irrelevant. Obamacare has numerous objectives with implementation deadlines. One of these is mandatory EMR-Electronic Medical Records system. Our hospital for one, is frantically working on this in order for the system to go live by the deadline. Hence asking questions that are going into the system, even tho Obamacare hasn't yet "happened"...Then once it has happened, the Federal Govt will have quick access to our files. The boards will know how well each of us comply with doctors orders, you know, take those pills whether you agree or not. If that doesn't scare you, what will?
In the mean time, the drug companies continue to lower the benchmarks requiring medication for many diseases, such as diabetes, hypertension, and high cholesterol! How else can they get more patients on their drugs? Check out www.thincs.org

the biggest impacts will be long after he is out of the WH unless something is done to change it....including the WH occupant!

btk

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Then once it has happened, the Federal Govt will have quick access to our files. The boards will know how well each of us comply with doctors orders, you know, take those pills whether you agree or not. If that doesn't scare you, what will?
In the mean time, the drug companies continue to lower the benchmarks requiring medication for many diseases, such as diabetes, hypertension, and high cholesterol! How else can they get more patients on their drugs? Check out www.thincs.org

You haven't kept up on things - and that's not an insult - it's not like some of this information is easy to find. The EMR mandate is a cluster. Even the government can't get it's act together on it. You'd think that, at the very least, the database schema (the format for all these records) would be finalized so that everyone would know what they were supposed to be working towards? Well, apparently not. I see openings at HHS for people to continue the design and implementation of the system. From my 35 years in the IT industry, my impression is that this project is a camel - you know, a horse designed by government committee.

The latest whispers I'm hearing is that deadlines are going to be extended quite a bit.

Electronic record sharing of medical records is a very good thing. It gives the medical field much more information on illnesses across the country instead of just in a localized area. It can save countless lives.

Oh, but the government will know all about me! Dude, they already know all about you with all the tracking devices you own. You have the magnetic strip for your credit card, the strip for the grocery story, the gas station, your telephone bill, your Facebook account, and the calling out of your name at Starbuck's when picking up your peppermint latte.

You are on the grid. Unless you want to be like Ted Kazinski and live in the Idaho woods, you are on the grid - and be happy about it.

Originally Posted by buggyone

You are on the grid. Unless you want to be like Ted Kazinski and live in the Idaho woods, you are on the grid - and be happy about it.

Try Lincoln, Montana, you know that other state just east of Idaho.