[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You are concerned with someone's identification and purpose when they walk on a concrete path behind your home but you don't have the same questions when they walk on a concrete or asphalt path in front of your home?

I have to agree with Bilcon. I take it you don't live on a golf course, otherwise you'd realize how dark it is.

If someone were up to something nefarious, do you think they would approach the well lit, possibly spotted by neighbor or community watch front side, or the very dark course side? Besides, you ARE permitted to walk on the street, you ARE NOT permitted to TRESPASS on the golf course

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If it is owned by the Villages and maintained by our amenity fee then is it really private property?

Yes, I understand that it is possible to "trespass" on public land. Yes, I understand that there are rules though I can't seem to find the rules regarding the golf cart paths. But I also understand how easy it is to use a phrase such as, "trespassing on private property," without actually knowing if it is private property or trespassing.

The championship courses are not support by the amenity fee. They are private property and utilizing them for something other than golf after paying the greens fee is TRESPASSING

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

The championship courses are not support by the amenity fee. They are private property and utilizing them for something other than golf after paying the greens fee is TRESPASSING

Somewhere in the 120+ responses I must have missed where this was referring to only CHAMPIONSHIP COURSES. With a ratio of about 3.5:1 in number (though certainly less than that in miles of path) the odds were pretty good that at least some of the comments referred to Executive courses.

[Becca9800]

My excursions were definitely onto an Executive course, and only the 2 within walking distance to my home. And I never venture anywhere near a house. I agree totally with not infringing on someone's property, I wouldn't want it done to me.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Somewhere in the 120+ responses I must have missed where this was referring to only CHAMPIONSHIP COURSES. With a ratio of about 3.5:1 in number (though certainly less than that in miles of path) the odds were pretty good that at least some of the comments referred to Executive courses.

I don't think you missed anything. I, on the other hand , was just referring to championship courses, so I think you understood this thread perfectly well. I have no idea whether the term trespassing could be used on exec courses since part of the amenity fee does support them. It may still be a "rule", but I doubt someone (as long as they are a Villager) could be charged with criminal trespass like they might on a championship course

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Proveone

I live on a golf course and pond.

Must be difficult dodging those balls all day but at least you have a place to bathe.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Road-Runner

Some people don't care for bike riders on public roads, others don't like something someone is doing on the cart paths,.

That's another falsity that needs to be cleared up. There are no "CART PATHS" unless one is referring to the diamond marked lanes in the streets which in reality even they aren't just "cart paths." The "CART PATHS" are actually MMP's (Multi-Modal-Paths). The problem is the cart drivers often THINK they are just "cart paths!"

The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians, and skaters.
From below:
Multi-Modal Path Information and Safety

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by bilcon

Because those of us who live on the golf course don't want people trespassing behind our homes. We don't know who you are and for all we know you could be there other reasons. Stay Off the golf course unless you are playing. There are enough places to walk without trespassing.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but my point still stands...again, if I was walking at night on the course- no different than others walking on it all day.
Allot of people like to get out at night, enjoy the openness, breath the fresh air. I don't know about you, but if I was walking a course at night I would feel much safer being able to see the full circumference of my surroundings, rather than being on a street where someone could be hiding behind a car.

I doubt anyone that backs up to a course would feel unsafe sitting on their lanai seeing two 65 or older ladies taking a stroll, carrying a lantern at night.
They are only utilizing the venue that they too pay for.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by RosemarySoso

Getting REALLY tired of snowbirds taking the blame for EVERYTHING — the same people who pay the very same taxes and amenities fees that you do, keeping your fees at the level they are. FYI snowbirds aren’t crazy about the full-timers with the attitudes.

What percentage of snowbirds are rentors?

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by stanley

The concrete and asphalt in "front" of one's home is usually "public" property. Those "concrete paths" behind ones home on the golf course are "private property". Pretty simple really. What's so hard to understand?

Wrong....what's so hard to understand?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

I'm sorry you feel that way, but my point still stands...again, if I was walking at night on the course- no different than others walking on it all day.
Allot of people like to get out at night, enjoy the openness, breath the fresh air. I don't know about you, but if I was walking a course at night I would feel much safer being able to see the full circumference of my surroundings, rather than being on a street where someone could be hiding behind a car.

I doubt anyone that backs up to a course would feel unsafe sitting on their lanai seeing two 65 or older ladies taking a stroll, carrying a lantern at night.
They are only utilizing the venue that they too pay for.

Does not apply to championship courses

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Does not apply to championship courses

Of course, I think that was stated pages ago.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by bilcon

Because those of us who live on the golf course don't want people trespassing behind our homes. We don't know who you are and for all we know you could be there other reasons. Stay Off the golf course unless you are playing. There are enough places to walk without trespassing.

The golf course is NOT your personal property. you only have some small area behind your house. ALL the residents pay taxes and the amenity fees. They should be allowed to use an empty golf course as long as they don't abuse it. They should NOT walk on the greens. A golf course IS a lot of space to waste when not used by golfers. ALL residents have to put up with some of the downsides to golf courses - like excess fertilizer runoff into the TV Land lakes, which causes blur-green algae, which produce an unhealthy gas when too plentiful.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The golf course is NOT your personal property. you only have some small area behind your house. ALL the residents pay taxes and the amenity fees. They should be allowed to use an empty golf course as long as they don't abuse it. They should NOT walk on the greens. A golf course IS a lot of space to waste when not used by golfers. ALL residents have to put up with some of the downsides to golf courses - like excess fertilizer runoff into the TV Land lakes, which causes blur-green algae, which produce an unhealthy gas when too plentiful.

Again, see post #131

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If it is owned by the Villages and maintained by our amenity fee then is it really private property?

Yes, I understand that it is possible to "trespass" on public land. Yes, I understand that there are rules though I can't seem to find the rules regarding the golf cart paths. But I also understand how easy it is to use a phrase such as, "trespassing on private property," without actually knowing if it is private property or trespassing.

Yes agreed. The amenity fee and sales tax. Even federal tax allows for national defense which protects the golf course from invasion by Russian troops. Bring the AK and the 9 iron comrade? The point is ALL TV Land residents SUPPORT the golf courses in SOME FASHION! Saying, "no trespassing" to residents seems ALL WRONG!