[PugMom]

Originally Posted by New Englander

I agree. Very underhanded and sneaky.

reminds me of Operation Chaos

[Buckeye Bob]

Where is the online newspaper?

[Villages Kahuna]

I recall our Republican U.S. Congresswoman when we moved here was assumed to be running for a third or fourth term. Because the outcome of the primary election was almost certain, she had no primary opponent. There were no candidates in the Democratic primary either. Her only opponent in the General Election could be a write-in.

Just before the deadline for filing as a candidate in the Primary election she announced her intention to retire from Congress and withdrew her name from the election. Simultaneously, boxes containing the necessary number of signed petitions for another candidate were delivered to the Election office. The new candidate was a close friend and political associate of the retiring Congresswoman, at the time the Sheriff of Brooksville. Of course as the only candidate in the Primary and subsequent General election, he was elected to Congress.

The entire sequence was completely legal. Was it underhanded,or whatever term you’d like to apply?

By the way, the new Congressman served two terms before he retired back to his home in Brooksville. At the time of his retirement from Congress he had a campaign finance fund which had received over $9 million in contributions. This despite the fact that he never had an electoral opponent! As the only large businesses in the district, much of the money contributed to his campaign fund came from Gary Morse, The Villages, contractors, Citizens First Bank, or other businesses owned by or closely associated with The Villages. Again, all totally legal.

Being a member of the U.S. House or Senate is a sweet job.

[PennBF]

I am truly disgusted when I remember the terrible acts on animals during one of the Developer and family member and friend so called "hunting trip" to Montana. As I recall, one member of the party even cut off the legs of one of the animals so the picture of the kill was better. Part of my growing up was on a farm and the rule was always that you did not kill anything unless it was for food, no exceptions. These were just people with no shame or feelings killing innocent animals for sport. If that represents your value system then what are you teaching your children or where do you stop. I remember walking with my brother one time and there was an ant on the walk and he walked all around it and remarked that if you would kill it where do you stop. I am at a loss to understand anyone who tries to justify these acts of slaughter!

[Patzy]

Love TV! Love America!
I try to stay informed about American happenings so I can use my "rights" to mobilize my "responsibilities" to speak up. For stupid stuff, I agree with you, but I can tell you, as I just spent months fighting the Sumter and Town of LL about their inappropriate developer support to bring apartments into the Hacienda residential neighborhood. Setting up to build apartments elsewhere in TV without having to go back to counties. Sumter Commissioners also raised taxes 25% last year to find county infrastructure that TV typically pays for. My point is that your emotional response is kinda a cop-out and nasty to others. You are quite misinformed about several comments. News-com is independent and without this, TV we would not have anyone looking under the stones. The Developers are the 3 Gkids of Harold, Gary's kids. They are not bad people at all, but they are advised by many people who may not have the best interests of owners at the top. Hopefully, you realize that being privately owned will not transfer to the next generation and will lead to being sold as one entity, or broken up, its public offerings. TV has been taking actions typical if prep for these actions. Selling off excess commercial space and establishing better cash streams like apartments. If you chose to not be involved in monitoring the happenings on TV, then don't criticize those who do (not the regular complainers or flame throwers) stay in the know to keep our investments healthy. FL has a few planned developments that as the leaders made bad decisions collapsed and the owners either lost tons of money or are living in the remaining mess. I learned a lot over the past months that I didn't want to, but I feel that my and others' efforts are causing some needed course correction that may keep our utopia going. Like getting 3 new Commissioners and the AAC getting new membership. Happy Thanksgiving

[Justus]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

That is not what happened. They were NOT fined for shooting endangered animals. They felled an animal on their land in the Western state they use for hunting and did not use it for food or dispose of it. Someone reported it.

Nothing came of it.

True! The "Developer" owned the property on which the animal was felled. Some folk have no idea what it's like to have deer or elk overrun their property. Today's anthropomorphizing of animals is an unfortunate result of the "Bambi Syndrome", in which any furry beast with big eyes is considered lovable and benign. If you have not lived among them, you may think they're cute. In truth, deer, especially male deer, travel in herds. They are destructive, dangerous, and can transmit deadly disease to humans and other animals. Their herds need to be thinned or they will die -on their own - in unpleasant circumstances. I for one am thankful there are still those among us (hunters, landowners, etc.) who are willing to perform this service.

[Jacob85]

There was a news report of people being on a ballet who were running under an independent party, did not have any information out there and who were being financed by the Republican Party. They never made any personal appearances and were only put there to keep a Democrat from winning. In one case the republicans won by 35 votes because this fake person got over a 1,000 votes that could have gone to either of the two candidates. These people had no intent of taking the office and when a news reporter tried to interview one of them they could not be found. It’s an elaborate scam to siphon off votes!

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I am truly disgusted when I remember the terrible acts on animals during one of the Developer and family member and friend so called "hunting trip" to Montana. As I recall, one member of the party even cut off the legs of one of the animals so the picture of the kill was better. Part of my growing up was on a farm and the rule was always that you did not kill anything unless it was for food, no exceptions. These were just people with no shame or feelings killing innocent animals for sport. If that represents your value system then what are you teaching your children or where do you stop. I remember walking with my brother one time and there was an ant on the walk and he walked all around it and remarked that if you would kill it where do you stop. I am at a loss to understand anyone who tries to justify these acts of slaughter!

So you're saying this leads to election fraud?

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by DecaturFargo

Where did you get your law degree? Such b.s.

Which of the 44 posts prior to yours are you referring to?

[PennBF]

Really sad that some try to justify the slaughter of animals even when it is illegal and cruel. I am sure cutting the legs off of a slaughtered animal for a picture, or letting others rot in the field are the appropriate ways of treating one of our most valuable resources.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by PennBF

Really sad that some try to justify the slaughter of animals even when it is illegal and cruel. I am sure cutting the legs off of a slaughtered animal for a picture, or letting others rot in the field are the appropriate ways of treating one of our most valuable resources.

That is simply not true. A local taxidermist questioned the legality of some game animals the Morses brought him from Montana from a ranch they owned.

But many new Villages residents might not know that Morse; his daughter, Kelsea Manly Morse; his wife, M’Lissa; and several associates were charged in November 2010 with a variety of hunting violations in Montana. The charges stemmed from incidents in 2007 and 2008.

In February 2012, Morse, who in late 2014 succeeded his father, the late H. Gary Morse, as head of The Villages, paid a $4,500 fine but avoided going to prison in connection with the hunting violations. Under a plea agreement, four felony charges for illegal possession of a game animal were dropped. Each could have carried a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $50,000 fine. And a second misdemeanor charge of hunting without a license also was dropped.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I don’t know if it was legal or not , I guess will find out . Blocking out all the Democratic voters in county was certainly not morally right, in local elections it’s not about which party you belong to , you have a right to vote in these elections in most places whichever party your in . I shouldn’t have to change parties to vote for local official

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

They got connections and friends in very high places, the investigation will result in nothing. More importantly, perhaps this will be a wake up call that once you start prioritizing maximizing profits over your clients best interests, the clients will start to demand reasonable checks and balances over ultimate control of things. Time will tell? Stay tuned!

It was several years ago when someone reported them for hunting without a license on their own land.
.

But many new Villages residents might not know that Morse; his daughter, Kelsea Manly Morse; his wife, M’Lissa; and several associates were charged in November 2010 with a variety of hunting violations in Montana. The charges stemmed from incidents in 2007 and 2008.

In February 2012, Morse, who in late 2014 succeeded his father, the late H. Gary Morse, as head of The Villages, paid a $4,500 fine but avoided going to prison in connection with the hunting violations. Under a plea agreement, four felony charges for illegal possession of a game animal were dropped. Each could have carried a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $50,000 fine. And a second misdemeanor charge of hunting without a license also was dropped.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

I don’t know if it was legal or not , I guess will find out . Blocking out all the Democratic voters in county was certainly not morally right, in local elections it’s not about which party you belong to , you have a right to vote in these elections in most places whichever party your in . I shouldn’t have to change parties to vote for local official

There are primary elections and general elections. The "shenanigans" (if that is a fair term to use) applied only to the primary and the result was that only registered Republicans could vote in the Republican primary (sort of makes sense when you say it that way). No one was denied the right to vote in the general election.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

And what does dragging up an old case that nobody cared about when it happened have to do with the current post???