[GypsyRN]

Originally Posted by Ptmckiou

Sounds like we would become what China is doing. They use high tech to track people including advanced facial recognition which in addition to drones, every street crossing sign has a camera built in. Are you sure you want to go there? Are you sure you want to try and stop something by NOT actually addressing the root problem…..children getting a hold of guns. How about we start there…the root issue and solve that, instead of putting a bandaid on it.

Feds need to pass a law that all 50 states must have guns in secure lock up if there are minors living in the house. About only 20 states have this law, and apply heavy jail time to parents, if the children get a hold of one of your guns and harms someone. This is the only way to stop children from mass murdering others. They play video games for hours a day that glorify the ease of killing and makes it routine in their minds. That would be another thing to address…no killing video games for minors either. You get exposed to blood and gore, over and over and over, you become emotionally numb by it. Children’s brain are not yet mature to rationalize like adults because their thinking process hasn’t fully developed. Address the access to guns, holding parents responsible and the mental development towards violence and we might just get somewhere,

Amen to that!!!!!

[GypsyRN]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Hey, better yet why not install computers that can predict when a crime is going to be perpetrated next? Or, since we are coddling the children now, and they can do no wrong, just have them schooled from home where they will be safe from harm or doing harm? Maybe the answer is a bit more of tough love, instead of making excuses for them every time they do something wrong.
Root causes is the answer. Police, drones and video cameras are attempting to fix something AFTER the fact. Better to fix the kids before they go off. Discipline is the answer to most of the problems today.

Amen brother!!!!!!

[doctorknow]

Originally Posted by Living a Fantasy

For sometime, I have fantasized about a process to stop these senseless school and mass killings. My solution is to develop a drone patrol -- each with "camera eyes" and multiple sensors for sensing drugs, ammunition, etc. as well as face technology. Drone Patrols with such technology could patrol airports, stadiums, theaters, schools and universities, malls, government utility stations (water, electricity, etc.). When suspicious activity is sensed, the drone(s) hover over the suspect. Video the activity, and instantaneously notify the authorities with the sensed activity, video, and the location of the suspected wrong-doing.

Educating the crazies to such a technology, as described above, may even deter them from attempting such a horrific mission in the first place.

What do you think?

Great idea, however who makes the call what is suspicious? When do they call for police? Someone loitering? Someone arguing? Someone out for a walk in a prohibited area? When does the call become necessary to prevent violence? It seems a bit "big brother" to me. Also who watches the monitors of all the drones? Seems like a waste of $$.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

I posted a lengthy response in this thread just a few minutes ago, prefacing that I thought this topic was of a political nature and not to be discussed, but it is nowhere to be found. I did not mention any politicians or political parties, just facts that I know about the issue of gun control. What happened to it?

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Wing-nut2

There are 90 guns for every 100 people in the United States. There are trillions of rounds of ammunition. If guns owners were the problem, you'd know it.

There are 120 guns for every 100 people -- you must have outdated information

[jimhurtt@twc.com]

Sorry. I don't have room in my fantasies for anything like that.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by skarra

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

One, look at the source of your information.

Two, have a look at countries that have placed restrictions of various types of firearms (Australia being one example back in 1996). Significant reductions in violent crimes, firearm suicides and mass shootings.

It’s clear from our statistics that more guns is not the answer. Personally I never feel safe around people with guns, even cops.

Experiences differ, I suspect.

I attended several Second Amendment rallies when I lived in Minnesota. Minnesota is a permit-to-carry state, not concealed-carry. If you have a permit in Minnesota you can carry openly and many do. One rally, about three years ago, in particular sticks in my memory. It was on the Capitol lawn in St. Paul. About 3,000 attendees and I'd say 2,000 were carrying, many openly. There were several dignitaries in attendance: 2018 was an election year. There was a candidate for Congress, the chairperson of the Minnesota Republican Party, several sitting legislators.

There was law enforcement present as well. Five officers in total. Four of them were on the perimeter of the rally facing AWAY from the crowd, on the watch for demonstrators (who never showed up). The fifth, a uniformed St. Paul cop, was with the crowd, chatting with people, looking at exhibits and generally having just as good a time as any of the rest of us.

That told me a lot. At least 2,000 armed citizens and the cops were FAR more worried about the folks who were anti-gun.

[Speedie]

Originally Posted by mrrmauu

This wouldn’t help with situations like the Christmas parade massacre. You may remember it’s where the SUV apparently drove itself into groups of people resulting in an “accident”. Funny how that story dropped off the face of the earth.

Maybe a ban on cars???

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Proveone

Thanks for sharing but what about gun control? One of the worse Supreme Court decisions was on the 2nd Amendment. Citizens should be able to own hunting rifles but not assault weapons made for war. These "militia" groups are just gangs of thugs!

I'll agree with you the minute you show me where it says anything about "hunting" in the Constitution...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

You obviously do not follow 5he facts on gun control. The cities with the strictest gun control ie NY, Wash. DC, Detroit, etc. have by far the most gun violence and d violence in general. Perhaps a little research on your part is needed before making statements that are not based on fact but your opinion.

Just a point of information...

DC went to "Shall Issue" for their carry permits about 5-6 years ago...

But yes, those committing crimes with guns are not carrying legally...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Proveone

First of all, the US military drone was a weapon, as opposed to a surveillance drone. Secondly, the US military drone "mishap" was predictable because they are the US military!

But they are the ones who have all the guns, right?

[tc1963]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Florida is the GunShine State...tooo many guns here. We need the gun controls here like they have in NY and NJ...we would be beyond safe.

And i hear the Supreme Court may allow carry licenses in NY....ruling is immenent.

Are they crazy..the gun control is keeping NY safe.

Anyone want to come to Shooters World tomorrow?

When an armed crook breaks into your house while you and your family scream for your lives, you call 911, get a recording saying "the police have been de-funded please call a social worker for assistance." AND you can not defend yourself and family. Thought process might be different. I am from NYC. The Same DUMB ASS CITY that had The Big Gulp Tax!!!! DAH! WT_?

The GUN is not the problem, it is the HOLDER! People can fake any document ie. Covid cards. I believe over 85% of homeowners in TV own a gun. What is the Violent Crime/Home Invasion Rate in TV? Next to nothing! Under 15% chance of success!!! Even the most dumb ass thief is not stupid enough to take those odds!!! Even then Home Invasion is usually contributed to homeowner error, unlocked window/door. Outside the Bubble is a much different issue, all the more reason to carry!!!

NY and NJ move to Fl. for no state tax income tax on pensions and to be safer! If Fl. gun laws do not appeal to you do not stay, sell your place, go back and deal with the environment that you chose to try and escape from. TV Armed and strong!

[tc1963]

Originally Posted by Living a Fantasy

For sometime, I have fantasized about a process to stop these senseless school and mass killings. My solution is to develop a drone patrol -- each with "camera eyes" and multiple sensors for sensing drugs, ammunition, etc. as well as face technology. Drone Patrols with such technology could patrol airports, stadiums, theaters, schools and universities, malls, government utility stations (water, electricity, etc.). When suspicious activity is sensed, the drone(s) hover over the suspect. Video the activity, and instantaneously notify the authorities with the sensed activity, video, and the location of the suspected wrong-doing.

Educating the crazies to such a technology, as described above, may even deter them from attempting such a horrific mission in the first place.

What do you think?

Drones and Aircraft at Airports DO NOT MIX. Hence no fly zones. Live birds can take out a jet engine. Utility stations should be responsible for their own security surveillance and not subject to Bob or Joe doing a fly by. Since property owners have mineral rights to their property, drones over private property without authorization from the property owner should be able to be shot down by said property owner as target practice!

[Waltdisney4life]

Wow And you can have the drones shoot poison darts! 😆

[MrFlorida]

We have laws against drugs, but you can get them on any street corner, we have laws against drunk driving, but many do on a daily basis, and often kill people, we have numerous gun laws, that criminals choose to ignore, So why don't we just enforce the laws on the books, and leave the law abiding citizens alone for a change ?