[xcaligirl]

Originally Posted by JGVillages

Stockpile Missing or just empty?

...or poorly managed???

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by matandch

the second shot is a booster to push efficacy up to the promised 95%. You will have up to 80% efficacy with just 1 shot. You do not have to start over.

65 %

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Agreed. Very few are thinking about this. The masses are throwing all caution to the wind and treating the vaccine like it was sent from God. Yes, tests and studies were done. But, only over a relatively short time period. What if this vaccine rears an unseen, ugly head 6-12 months from now ... severe adverse reactions or worse. Who's fault will that be? Well, the answer is each and every person who takes this vaccine. You (and only you) are primarily responsible for your own health and anything that threatens it.

Eat right such that you get sufficient quantities of Vit C, Zinc. You are all fortunate to live in the sunshine state. Get outside and expose yourself to the sun (that's how vitamin D is made - no you can't put in sunscreen and make vitamin D). Provide for your immune system and it will provide for you. How many people are taking this approach, I wonder.

Screw with your immune system (vaccine) and you take risks on what the result will be. Pfizer and Moderna don't know what they don't know.
Not enough people are thinking this through.

The anti-vaxxers may succeed at torpedoing this whole attempt by society to achieve herd immunity through near-universal vaccination.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by New Englander

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Seems like the Vaccine truck has been driver-less for a couple of months.

How so?

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by DOGSAREKEEPERS

Reading it is one thing, getting a ROBO call at 3:30 AM to tell me it was almost enough to scare me to death, with or without the shots.

You choose your communication phone call. If you had chosen text, or email your phone would not have rang. You choose poorly, if you didn’t want a robo call to wake you up

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The anti-vaxxers may succeed at torpedoing this whole attempt by society to achieve herd immunity through near-universal vaccination.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bob in Fishers

No that is false. Check the CDC site

WHAT is false? Please quote the poster you are responding to otherwise we have no idea who you are replying to.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by SacDQ

The news has released Biden’s new plan and they will be distributing the remaining vaccine differently. Targeting those in areas hit the hardest.
I guess Florida is not on the list.

What about all of us who need our second shots? Was anything said about that?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

I am blown away how fast people are willing to be lab rats.

It blows me away how people would consider riding it out if they get caught with the virus in their body.

[C. C. Rider]

I just read some interesting info in the Jan-Feb edition of AARP Bulletin.

"Question: Once I'm fully vaccinated, can I go back to normal life?

Answer: No. Everyone will need to continue all current recommendations regarding social distancing, wearing a mask, and avoiding travel. This is because up to 10 percent of vaccinated individuals will not be protected from getting Covid-19, and because reinfection, while uncommon, can still occur.

And the vaccine itself doesn't prevent you from contracting the virus. It simply prepares your body to mount a vigorous defense so that if you do become infected, the resulting illness is far less likely to be life-threatening. "

The article goes on to say (paraphrased) that even if we receive both vaccines, that's no guarantee of immunity. Also, we don't have enough data to know how long the vaccine remains effective. The first people to receive the vaccine in clinical trials was in late September, so we won't know until this coming September if the vaccine lasts for a full year.

So, it appears that the vaccine is far less of a magic bullet than many people think that it is. I certainly hope that it works, but with the limited knowledge that "the experts" have on it, it appears to be far from a certainty that this virus is going away any time soon, or that it won't mutate and require annual shots to try to stay one step ahead of it. It would seem that trying to stay healthy and reducing the severity of your comorbidities, if possible, would be a good idea whether you receive the vaccine or not.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by toeser

Enough has been ordered to vaccinate virtually everyone who wants a shot. The problem is in production. Also, the FDA is sitting on approval for AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine which already has been approved by multiple countries. Blame them.

The Astra Zeneca vaccine does not have as high an efficacy as Moderna or Pfizer. I hope we do not approve that vaccine here in the US. I just want the Emergency Production Act to be employed to ramp up production of the two approved vaccines we have here in the US. We have been promised that is going to happen. Let's wait and see. Just wish that Emergency Production Act had been employed long before this. The production needs to be ramped up so we don't have these cluster f%$@s any more.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by asianthree

If I was thinking of getting the vaccine, I would be glad in not receiving the first dose.
The studies for the vaccine were for doses given at x number of days, for 2 doses, to reach 94-96%.
If they held second dose, later for either company, to see the outcome, one would think it would have been in their press release.

A just in case we can’t produce, enough vaccine this is the % without 2nd dose, or dose given 60 days later

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think what you are saying is that the efficacy of the vaccine is the same if the 2nd shot is administered at the 60 day mark OR the 2nd shot is not given at all. Either way, the efficacy is the same????

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by wiltma

They should never have come off

We are all really in some deep trouble if people think they can stop the CDC protocols to mitigate the virus just because they have had both shots of the vaccine. I mean REALLY REALLY deep trouble.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by xcaligirl

...or poorly managed???

That would imply there was management....there was and is none!

The only management is of the real cause of such a major blow out!!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by BillyC

We got registered on TUESDAY MORNING AT 6AM and got our 1st dose on Wednesday afternoon at 1PM..... and TRUST ME if you trust no one else: WE ARE NOT CONNECTED to ANYONE as you suggest.... we are not politically connected to ANYONE... you need get some FACTS before you or others start posting this NONSENSE... I hope the moderator pulls your post... this crap has to stop...

PLEASE quote the post next time so we can all see which post you are referring to. Did you know that if you quote a post and the moderator removes said post, that post will live on in your post with the quoted post in it? Sorry if I didn't make myself understood but the bottom line is to quote a poster when you are responding to them. Thanks.