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Old 01-17-2021, 03:24 PM
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The emergency production act will be used to make syringes and PPE, not vaccine production.

"He also said he would use the full force of the Defense Production Act to make the supplies needed to administer vaccines, including syringes and personal protective equipment."
Biden details 5-step COVID vaccine plan, names new lead for vaccines | CIDRAP
Then will the manufacturers have the ability to keep up with all the PPE and syringes we will have? I didn't realize the Emergency Production Act did not include manufacture of the vaccines.
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I will be taking the risk to be vaccinated. I will not worry anymore about the health of others around me. They could also take the same risk I will be taking and get themselves vaccinated.

Bottom line, when I'm fully immune at 95% and 100% of not having severe disease, my mask comes OFF and will remain OFF. To those who are not able to take the vaccine, sorry but just stay away from me because I will NOT be wearing a mask.
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We are all really in some deep trouble if people think they can stop the CDC protocols to mitigate the virus just because they have had both shots of the vaccine. I mean REALLY REALLY deep trouble.
Thank you for the change of heart.
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Old 01-17-2021, 03:35 PM
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Default Don't forget General Perna

Here's the guy in charge:
GUS PERNA, the general running logistics for Operation Warp Speed, states report they’re getting less than they were promised.

“It was my fault,” Perna says. “It was a planning error, and I am responsible.”
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Thank you for the change of heart.
WOW, you must have searched for that first comment. That was a while ago before I realized how difficult this vaccine roll out was going to be. I guess I was very naive.

You're welcome. I realize now that the roll out will take a lot of time and there will be millions of people who are clamoring for the vaccine but just can not get it.

I still stand with my view point that I WILL NOT protect anti-vaxxers when when we no longer have anyone wishing to get the vaccine. When the vaccine is plentiful to all those who want it, that is when my mask comes off. That may not be for a very long while, but I will wait it out and for now continue to protect those around me.
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Yes.
NO! Don't listen to this "opinion"! You are still on the list and will be contacted when vaccine is available.
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I still stand with my view point that I WILL NOT protect anti-vaxxers when when we no longer have anyone wishing to get the vaccine. .
If you are vaccinated, you are protecting those who can’t take the vaccine.
Since you are vaccinated you just lost the ability to say I WILL NOT protect.

But I bet that 31 week pregnant lady that will not get the vaccine must be in your anti-vaccine group, as well as the healthcare workers who are choosing to pass. Then there are those who are in Chemo, who’s physicians are holding them from the vaccine, or those who are anaphylactic and their physicians are choosing to withhold the vaccine until further studies. So which of these anti vaccine people do you feel are not worth it?
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I've been told that the 2nd shot is a booster....the same shot as the 1st one. It seems that there is a bit of flexibility in when then 2nd is administered....just has to be at least 28 days (for Maderna). I haven't found out/heard of how much time after 28th day, but I would think at least a month. I get that it's the same 'shot', just can't understand why they would not 'pull' and reserve, the 2nd shots, before administering 1st shots to new people (and, YES, I am one of the 7500 waiting for the 1st shot. the issue of availability of the 2nd shot concerns me. Hopefully this will get resolved in the next few days.
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Old news. Theres a shortage all over
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I guess we were the car that pulled up behind you.
How did they not know they didn’t even have enough to complete Saturdays appointments!!?? Funny how that’s not mentioned in the article. Sure hope we are actually put at the top of the list for when they receive more. Then again how can we feel confident that they will get the second dose on time?
We were in same position. Arrived at 4:15 and they were out
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Get used to disappoint! The explanation would have been censored so why bother!
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You do not have to start over. The person that said that is not only clueless but has a limited thought process. It is true there is 80% coverage for Moderna at the end of 28 days but what is unknown is how long that will last without the booster. In Moderna's trials efficacy 1 week after 2nd shot is 94.5% but in over 65 drops to 86%. They did a subset of over 65 and that was the result. No big deal tho. This is fact - look up clinical trials and these facts are there.
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Old 01-18-2021, 07:52 AM
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My concern......... is the efficacy of the vaccine as good if the 2nd shot is later than it is supposed to be given which is 28 days for the Moderna vaccine? What if it is days or even weeks late? What happens then? Do we start over?

I'm not expecting anyone to have the answers. Just venting.
If for some reason you fail to get the second shot precisely three weeks after the first, you don’t have to start all over again with another two-dose regimen. “The second dose can be picked up at any time after the first. No need to start the series over,” said Dr. Paul Offit, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania and a member of the F.D.A.’s vaccine advisory panel
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You do not have to start over. The person that said that is not only clueless but has a limited thought process. It is true there is 80% coverage for Moderna at the end of 28 days but what is unknown is how long that will last without the booster. In Moderna's trials efficacy 1 week after 2nd shot is 94.5% but in over 65 drops to 86%. They did a subset of over 65 and that was the result. No big deal tho. This is fact - look up clinical trials and these facts are there.
Additional info on single dose:

How effective is a single vaccine dose against Covid-19? - BBC Future

Thought this point of view interesting where an alternate Pfizer estimate is based on when the initial injection likely becomes effective.



"But there is also another figure that has been circulating on the internet, and anecdotally, being fed to patients by certain doctors – the suggestion that the first dose is around 90% effective. And this is where it gets a little more complicated.

The second estimate comes from the UK's Vaccine Committee, the JCVI, who decided to calculate the efficacy of the vaccine differently.

Instead of using all the data on the number of infections, including from days when the first dose hadn't yet started to work, they only looked at days 15-21.

Using this method, the efficacy of the vaccine jumps up to 89%, because it's not being diluted by the relatively high number of infections before the vaccine begins to have an effect.

Taking things even further and only looking at the first seven days after the second dose (days 21-28) – because the second dose might not have kicked in yet by then – it's 92%.

However, these calculations are controversial
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I am blown away how fast people are willing to be lab rats.
Indeed. Isn't anyone concerned about things like this happening:

Shawn Skelton took the Moderna vaccine for COVID-19 - YouTube
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