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Old 01-05-2023, 11:29 AM
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[QUOTE=Annie66;2173105]I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that Meggison Road is such a winding, curvy highway where the lanes seem to be a bit narrower than other major roads. When I drive down it, I imagine this is like a Formula 1 track. I'm unaware if this feature has led to a higher incidence of auto accidents. I just do not understand why it was designed this way and not have more or a straight, albeit a more boring, construction.[/QUOT


Perhaps to slow traffic down and for aesthetics. They weren’t aiming for interstate quality roads, I’m sure.
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Old 01-05-2023, 11:37 AM
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Maybe this will help make it more clear for some.
I think the issue is about Meggison being two lanes south of sawgrass - not about the fastest way to the turnpike. From 44 to sawgrass, Meggison is four lanes with dedicated paths for golf carts. This seems safer for cars, golf carts, bikes, and pedestrians.

South of sawgrass, you have people driving to Citrus Grove, Newell, Lake Denham, and Dabney on a two lane highway with golf cart lanes in the roadway. I think that everyone would agree that a four lane highway (with two lanes in each direction and a median in between) is much safer than a two lane highway (with no median). Was the design change to save money or to make the road safer?
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Old 01-05-2023, 01:34 PM
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I live "between the sixes" in Poinciana and have recently made a few trips by car to the Homestead Rec Center. My impression of Meggison from Sawgrass Grove to the rec center was that it was very quiet. I am sure it will get busier as more villages are built down that route, but if you think that's busy now, come ride around Bailey Trail, and St. Charles Place. I have long felt that something was miscalculated when they designed St. Charles Pl . Trying to get out of the Sterling Hts. Rec center during the winter months is daunting, as is crossing it at the BV RAB.
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Old 01-05-2023, 01:45 PM
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Yep!
Partly to blame is Sawgrass with its one and only entrance off Meggison and people, (both cart & car) all in contest to get the best live entertainment seats/cart parking in the grass just outside the open air area /whatever.
We noted the BIG uptick in traffic and speed of said traffic, when Sawgrass came on board, just before we moved north.
You are also correct, it will all get much worse, when they complete the bridge spanning the turnpike to lay in more villages, as it will really be the only way in/out for everyone living there, needing to go anywhere...
Yep, just wait until people real8ze Meggison is great shortcut to RT 27 to Clermont.
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That’s why I love living in the north end…access to stores, squares and safer roads!
Too funny. The road with the by far most safety complaints is Morse Bld north of 466. I can't recall any other road in TV that the county was asked to investigate changes to make it safer. And how about the guy that purchased a radar gun so that he could stand next to the road a yell at speeders. So, nope.
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The current population according to The Daily Sun is 144,700.
When they put that figure out is that full time residents or does that include snowbirds? I've always wondered that and have never found the answer.
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Old 01-05-2023, 03:25 PM
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I think that everyone would agree that a four lane highway (with two lanes in each direction and a median in between) is much safer than a two lane highway (with no median).
A couple months ago a young lady was killed driving south on Buena Vista when she ran into the roundabout at Bailey Trail.

A few weeks ago a young man on a motorcycle was killed at the intersection of Buena Vista and 466A.

Yesterday there was an accident at that same intersection and we saw two people being carried away on stretchers.

Even a "four lane highway (with two lanes in each direction and a median in between)" is not safe when people are careless.
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Old 01-05-2023, 04:02 PM
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Even a "four lane highway (with two lanes in each direction and a median in between)" is not safe when people are careless.
I didn't say that four lanes were perfectly safe and that no one has ever been injured or killed on four lane highways. I said that four lanes are safer than two lanes.

A study from the University of Wyoming concluded that "the conversion from two-lane roadways to four lane divided roadways results in a notable reduction in fatal and injury crashes of more than 63% on urban roadways and 45% on rural roadways."

For those interested in the entire study, see below.


https://www.uwyo.edu/ahmed/Papers/20...20Roadways.pdf
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We moved into Citrus Grove a little more than a year ago. Since then, traffic has GREATLY increased along Meggison road. My fear is it will even get worse once the road connects to 470/ turnpike and the Bexley bridge opens up. It’s only two lanes wide after passing the Citrus Grove gates and crossing the road with golf carts or walking has gotten more and more treacherous. Furthermore, another hundred plus homes are being built in the Newell Franklin area which would only make things worse. I’m beginning to wonder if things were thought through for this busy thoroughfare?
Just like the people that bought next to the turnpike and now are complaining about the noise, investigate what your buying.
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Old 01-05-2023, 04:49 PM
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When we moved here there WAS no development yet - and we couldn't see how the area would be built. I thought they would follow the model of the other 77 Villages - gates, roundabouts, etc.
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Old 01-05-2023, 05:21 PM
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All of Citrus Grove is in Sumter County. All of Meggison Road in Citrus Grove is 2 lane. It is probably just dollar sign blindness by the developer. More lots take priority over safer roads. The golf cart crossing to Southern Oaks is very tough. You really have to have your peepers open and be patient to cross.
Do “you people” ever get tired of bitching about the developer? And “you people” that complain the most probably live in The Villages.
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Too funny. The road with the by far most safety complaints is Morse Bld north of 466. I can't recall any other road in TV that the county was asked to investigate changes to make it safer. And how about the guy that purchased a radar gun so that he could stand next to the road a yell at speeders. So, nope.
Did some jerk actually do that? If so, I'd love to meet him. Unfortunately for him it would take some time for them to disimpact his radar gun
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I think the issue is about Meggison being two lanes south of sawgrass - not about the fastest way to the turnpike. From 44 to sawgrass, Meggison is four lanes with dedicated paths for golf carts. This seems safer for cars, golf carts, bikes, and pedestrians.

South of sawgrass, you have people driving to Citrus Grove, Newell, Lake Denham, and Dabney on a two lane highway with golf cart lanes in the roadway. I think that everyone would agree that a four lane highway (with two lanes in each direction and a median in between) is much safer than a two lane highway (with no median). Was the design change to save money or to make the road safer?
The OP concerned about Megason being a shortcut to 470. People will tire quickly of a local 2 lane 25-30mph road when a a 4 lane, divided 35 mph connector road is available. Seems likely traffic on South Megason might even decrease one McNeil opens.

The homeowners pay for infrastructure within the Villages. How many would be ok with an extra $5-10k-?? added to their bond for an additional 4 lane divided road for 4-5 Villages?

There was no design change, the roadwayswere designed as planned in regional road agreements approved over 5 years ago.
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Do “you people” ever get tired of bitching about the developer? And “you people” that complain the most probably live in The Villages.
The developer did a large number of awesome things building this place but also some head scratching ones as well. Do we not have the right to coment on that?

For example why was Morse N of 466 built as 2 lane road (one lane in each direction) while Buena Vista 4 lanes thruout.
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