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Old 01-17-2025, 09:38 AM
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Default Ryan Homes aka NVR is still building upscale McMansions.

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Ryan Homes has been in business since 1948.

If you are from an area of the country where a lot of bi-levels were built in the 1970s, that could have been Ryan Homes

in the early 70s, the first of the boomers were entering the housing market. The brick ranches built in the 50s and 60s needed a big footprint, a big basement and a long roof.

Then came the bi-levels with a design that could get the needed rooms and the garage all in under a small roof and built on a small foundation on small subdivision lots.

In the 70s, Ryan built for the first home market. I don't know if Ryan got into any of the McMansion subdivisions of the 80s and 90s -- when boomers could afford bigger houses and the tax law was in effect that made cap gains on real estate taxable unless reinvested in a bigger house. (That law changed in the late 90s and many middle class people benefited from being able to keep real estate profit when downsizing from bigger homes.)

And I think somewhere along the line, Ryan did a lot of those 4 bedrooms, 2 and a half baths, brick on the bottom, siding on the top, two-stories when boomers started having families.

I laughed when I saw Ryan Homes was moving in next door to TV and with condos with first floor living. Looks to me like Ryan is following the boomers like they have through all these years of finding a need and filling it.

(They should have done that first floor living thing when they were building condos in the 70s. But that cost more to do and nobody seemed to think the boomers might get old someday.)

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Ryan Homes is a wholly owned subsidiary of NVR who also offers Mortgages, Settlement Services and builds the larger, upscale homes (McMansions) under the NVR label in many market areas.
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What's the difference between saying "close to Spanish Springs" or "close to Home Depot"?
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Regardless of how you feel about the advertisements and commerce for new developments, the fact remains that outside developers are over building around The Villages. I wish Sumter County would take steps to restrict these cheap, horrible-looking housing projects.
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Like our already overcrowded main events that Villagers love in the main Squares. I’ve skipped several due to lack of parking for them. Not to mention, we pay the amenities fees, not freeloaders. Just sayin.
The squares are not amenities. Just sayin.
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You are confused on “What Amenity Fees” are paying for.
Amenity fees pay for the upkeep of all the squares. That is why amenity fees paid for the replacement of the water tower and windmill in Brownwood Square and why our amenity fees are being tapped to replace the boat launch and dock on the Sumter Landing Square. Don’t confuse the developer’s owned businesses around the squares with the squares themselves. Our amenity fees pay for all costs related to the squares themselves. We own them.
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Regardless of how you feel about the advertisements and commerce for new developments, the fact remains that outside developers are over building around The Villages. I wish Sumter County would take steps to restrict these cheap, horrible-looking housing projects.
The residents of Sumter County have had the same feelings about development of the Villages.
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I think the developer should build more townhouses, condos, and apartments. A single family house is fine for a couple, but not as convenient for a person living alone.
More Golf Courses First - Townhomes and Apartments put too man golfers per square acre!!
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Regardless of how you feel about the advertisements and commerce for new developments, the fact remains that outside developers are over building around The Villages. I wish Sumter County would take steps to restrict these cheap, horrible-looking housing projects.
many of those so called cheap housing projects are giving working people with maybe lower incomes a nice clean place to live instead of an hour drive from some trailer or old home ,Those cute little houses would have looked like mansions to me, compared to the neighborhoods and projects I grew up in ,one neighborhood was so bad they tore it completely down.Everyone wants more service workers as long as they live somewhere else
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Regardless of how you feel about the advertisements and commerce for new developments, the fact remains that outside developers are over building around The Villages. I wish Sumter County would take steps to restrict these cheap, horrible-looking housing projects.
Perhaps they county should step in and stop The Villages from building the stuff they're building down south?
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Amenity fees pay for the upkeep of all the squares. That is why amenity fees paid for the replacement of the water tower and windmill in Brownwood Square and why our amenity fees are being tapped to replace the boat launch and dock on the Sumter Landing Square. Don’t confuse the developer’s owned businesses around the squares with the squares themselves. Our amenity fees pay for all costs related to the squares themselves. We own them.
Do bonds pay for town center infrastructure?
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Regardless of how you feel about the advertisements and commerce for new developments, the fact remains that outside developers are over building around The Villages. I wish Sumter County would take steps to restrict these cheap, horrible-looking housing projects.
And you'll be the first to complain when your your restaurant is slow or you can't get a medical appointment right away because the people who support us have no place to live in the area.
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Personally, I don't see anything illegal or unethical about advertising amenities that are open to the public.
Totally agree, maybe I'm missing something, but how can it be illegal or in any way unethical to refer to any and all public stores, areas, landmarks, etc. near where homes are being built ???? How could it be illegal or unethical to mention your new homes are near the Sharon performing arts center or not far from the Orange Blossom Opry in Weirsdale, Florida ???? Seems many agents and builders would advertise the location was handy to things... only a short distance to a variety of nightly entertainment at Lake Sumter Landing, Brownwood, Spanish Springs, etc. Seems what most builders would advertise !
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I think it is great inviting people to move in and use the free stuff in the Village. Helps the stores and allows our neighbors to come in to dance and listen to music and have a great time.
Totally agree. The Florida travel and tourism money (taxes paid by all in Florida) was always used by the villages merchants to fund the entertainment and draw people to the area. No idea if it's still funded that way, or if the merchants now equally share the expense, but certainly the more that can be attracted (even the new Costco might help attract some people from the surrounding area who may come primarily to shop at Costco, but plan to stay and eat dinner at a restaurant at one of the squares, perhaps stop at the Barnes and Nobel to make a purchase, have a drink from Starbucks after dinner while listening to the entertainers, etc. so all to our benefit !
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Amenity fees pay for the upkeep of all the squares. That is why amenity fees paid for the replacement of the water tower and windmill in Brownwood Square and why our amenity fees are being tapped to replace the boat launch and dock on the Sumter Landing Square. Don’t confuse the developer’s owned businesses around the squares with the squares themselves. Our amenity fees pay for all costs related to the squares themselves. We own them.
Sort of. We don't pay for entertainment (we might soon). We don't pay for roads, sidewalks, curbs, or traffic lights, etc. The Square itself is owned by the Sumter Landing Community Development District, who rents it to the Developer for $25/night.

[Not to go down a deep rabbit hole, but .... I assume the Developer gets the "rent" from any businesses or vendors who do business in the Squares? Of course, the Developer also controls the Sumter Landing Community Development District, so it's no surprise he gets reasonable rent.]


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Personally, I don't see anything illegal or unethical about advertising amenities that are open to the public.
Squares receive tax dollars so open to public. Just like roads
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