[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I made an off the cuff suggestion that perhaps I had gained a certain amount of immunity to the flu and colds due to my extensive living and traveling overseas in third world countries. I mentioned that I have never had the flu and rarely catch a cold. Perhaps it is due to an "acquired immune system?" Just a guess as to why I seem to be able to shrug off the same diseases that make others bedridden. I've seen folks drink and eat stuff that would put the average American in the hospital fighting for their lives. Ever heard of "don't drink the water?" So, apparently I encouraged our "poster" that likes to hijack every thread and saturate the thread with his "know it all" on all subjects. Thank you for your input and your extensive knowledge on all subjects. I am amused and almost entertained by the twisting and distorting of one's comments on here to camouflage the troll-like behavior. I appreciate how one can divert the subject to reflect how he thinks other countries are superior to ours, how villagers are idiots and his displeasure with The Villages in general.
I think that I have made it clear that I believe the virus is very dangerous. Science has proven that some folks are either immune to the virus and show no symptoms, become infected and show minor symptoms, become infected and are incapacitated, and some even die from the virus. No one is declaring the virus a hoax. I believe that most of us have known someone that has either had the virus and survived or someone that has died from it or with it. Just because I do not allow the virus to rule my life and stymie my lifestyle, does not mean that I do not take it seriously. I know exactly how some on here feel that have lost family or friends to the virus.
If we are showing a commonality to the OP, I will add that I have lost two family members to the virus, and currently have three that are infected. The three that are infected consist of two in their 40's and one 18yo. I have also known two Villagers in their 80's that had the virus in Feb and one was hospitalized. Both are doing well and back to living a normal life. I have reason to take the virus very seriously and do. That said, I am also pragmatic about it. I take precautions but do not allow other folks panic and hysteria to dictate or limit my liberties and lifestyle.
I love my country and firmly believe it is the Best in the World. Instead of cutting down the Villages, I prefer to maintain a positive attitude toward it, even when a FEW attempt to disparage it. And my politics is that I am an AMERICAN first.

We know that poster. He is a hater so he has to hate.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by willis100

I have covid19 right now. Tested positive Friday morning after some fever Wed. and Thur night. Though I am diabetic and take blood pressure and cholesterol meds, I am a healthy 66-year-old man. Being quarantined here in my house (I live alone) has been ok as I have gotten caught up on things that needed to be done. I thank God that it has been a mild case so far and pray for others not as fortunate.

Again, best wishes. It’s been a few days. Hope you are doing well.

[Mikef99]

I have heard of a few that have had it for a day or two, through my family mostly in Missouri. No deaths and all said minor cold symtoms.
I am not recommending it to anyone, but in the same time not to be fearful. I have seen people step in front of traffic here to keep the 6 feet distance which I think is a lot more dangerous.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by Mikef99

I have heard of a few that have had it for a day or two, through my family mostly in Missouri. No deaths and all said minor cold symtoms.
I am not recommending it to anyone, but in the same time not to be fearful. I have seen people step in front of traffic here to keep the 6 feet distance which I think is a lot more dangerous.

FWIW eight of the nine I know who have died were in Missouri. Just heard today of an old college and teaching friend who spent five and a half weeks in the hospital with COVID and had a small stroke during that time. He is recovering but said it was very rough.

[willis100]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Again, best wishes. It’s been a few days. Hope you are doing well.

Went back to Paramount to get another test after 14 days. The text message of my results said not only am I still positive for covid19 but they also test for the flu and I was positive for that, also. That is a lie, or a false positive, as I feel as good as I ever have. Are you telling me the flu can also be asymptomatic? I called my doctor to ask why they suggested Paramount and their answer was that "they seemed to be the most honest". My next test will surely not be at Paramount. Thank you for wishing me well...

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by willis100

Went back to Paramount to get another test after 14 days. The text message of my results said not only am I still positive for covid19 but they also test for the flu and I was positive for that, also. That is a lie, or a false positive, as I feel as good as I ever have. Are you telling me the flu can also be asymptomatic? I called my doctor to ask why they suggested Paramount and their answer was that "they seemed to be the most honest". My next test will surely not be at Paramount. Thank you for wishing me well...

According to internet sources, the answer is "yes".

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

My sister just texted me today - she is sick, and she tested positive for Covid-19. She and her housemate are both symptomatic, plus she has chronic asthma. And they're up north, so there's absolutely nothing I can do to help her.

Except...

to do what I can do, to stay healthy.

And that means:

wear a mask, wash my hands, social distance.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

My sister just texted me today - she is sick, and she tested positive for Covid-19. She and her housemate are both symptomatic, plus she has chronic asthma. And they're up north, so there's absolutely nothing I can do to help her.

Except...

to do what I can do, to stay healthy.

And that means:

wear a mask, wash my hands, social distance.

I wish your sister the best. It must be hard on you so far away. Sending you positive thoughts!

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

I am not posting this to scare or chastise, but I have heard of many people who know no one who has passed due to the Coronavirus, some of whom think it is really not serious. Well, if that is you, you are fortunate indeed, but I am here to tell you it is very real and very serious. In just the last week I have learned of three deaths; one a teacher and former student of mine; one a former college classmate and friendly competitor when we both coached high school basketball in the same conference; and another a long time family friend. I don’t know if my experience is common, but I am certain it is not unique. I am happy we are beginning the vaccine process, but until immunity is pretty universal, I implore everyone to be careful and vigilant. I do not want to add a TOTV friend to my list.

Personally lost one friend in another state. Only 74 but not in good health at all, she was in a rehab facility as her Parkinson's had become very bad. The virus went through the rehab facility in Illinois quite rapidly killing many who were in weakened conditions. Otherwise, I have 5 close personal friends between 54 and 91 who have had it, all in excellent health and none overweight, who have had the virus but with very slight symptoms. Four of them live in Illinois, one lives in southeast Florida. All are fine.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

My sister just texted me today - she is sick, and she tested positive for Covid-19. She and her housemate are both symptomatic, plus she has chronic asthma. And they're up north, so there's absolutely nothing I can do to help her.

Except...

to do what I can do, to stay healthy.

And that means:

wear a mask, wash my hands, social distance.

Sorry to hear that, OBB. Hope she gets better in a hurry.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I made an off the cuff suggestion that perhaps I had gained a certain amount of immunity to the flu and colds due to my extensive living and traveling overseas in third world countries. I mentioned that I have never had the flu and rarely catch a cold. Perhaps it is due to an "acquired immune system?" Just a guess as to why I seem to be able to shrug off the same diseases that make others bedridden. I've seen folks drink and eat stuff that would put the average American in the hospital fighting for their lives. Ever heard of "don't drink the water?" So, apparently I encouraged our "poster" that likes to hijack every thread and saturate the thread with his "know it all" on all subjects. Thank you for your input and your extensive knowledge on all subjects. I am amused and almost entertained by the twisting and distorting of one's comments on here to camouflage the troll-like behavior. I appreciate how one can divert the subject to reflect how he thinks other countries are superior to ours, how villagers are idiots and his displeasure with The Villages in general.
I think that I have made it clear that I believe the virus is very dangerous. Science has proven that some folks are either immune to the virus and show no symptoms, become infected and show minor symptoms, become infected and are incapacitated, and some even die from the virus. No one is declaring the virus a hoax. I believe that most of us have known someone that has either had the virus and survived or someone that has died from it or with it. Just because I do not allow the virus to rule my life and stymie my lifestyle, does not mean that I do not take it seriously. I know exactly how some on here feel that have lost family or friends to the virus.
If we are showing a commonality to the OP, I will add that I have lost two family members to the virus, and currently have three that are infected. The three that are infected consist of two in their 40's and one 18yo. I have also known two Villagers in their 80's that had the virus in Feb and one was hospitalized. Both are doing well and back to living a normal life. I have reason to take the virus very seriously and do. That said, I am also pragmatic about it. I take precautions but do not allow other folks panic and hysteria to dictate or limit my liberties and lifestyle.
I love my country and firmly believe it is the Best in the World. Instead of cutting down the Villages, I prefer to maintain a positive attitude toward it, even when a FEW attempt to disparage it. And my politics is that I am an AMERICAN first.

Your rational and well grounded remarks will probably be rejected by the fear mongers so common on here, but always good to see some do actually think things through, and, realize that the broad brush so many paint with on this chat board does (as you pointed out) come from personal fear and often quotes "science" and "experts", but as they say in the judicial system, for every "expert" opinion you get, I can get TWO "experts" to refute it, LOL ! But your words were a breath of fresh, and for once rational, air AND thinking. As for the "twisting and distortion".... it is truly amusing, and if you pay close attention, it seems to follow a certain pattern..... Hummmmm, interesting !

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by jonathanb

It is all very sad. I know one who died and 4 who had it and are now fine. The question for us is not that we don’t take it seriously, we do, but how are we going to live our lives? We wear masks in public and social distance but we have decided to go see our grandchildren for Christmas. Guess it depends on how you individually feel on a risk/ reward basis. I could not go and die anyway. It’s not wrong or right it is an individual decision.

So TRUE, true, true. I have mused on that very topic many times; do those who fear leaving their own homes (I am assuming otherwise healthy people, not at risk people) ever stop to think that if they don't see that son or daughter, or don't spend Christmas with their grandchildren, or take the longed for vacation..... they may be hit by a car and killed tomorrow morning ? Or, choke on a pretzel and die tonight ! It's really difficult to understand how various people process information and make decisions. One wise person on here expressed that the "risk/reward" factor is an INDIVIDUAL EQUATION, no one, on this forum or your next door, can work out your PERSONAL equation, it's just not possible. What we all must do is allow others to make their decisions and choices, the striking out at innocent friends and neighbors who decide to visit their grand children, or have an anniversary dinner out, or play cards with friends has just got to stop before we have a population of folks obsessed with the personal decisions of others; this is NOT what a mentally healthy society does ! People, right here in our community are letting fear ( of what ? sickness ? death ? or just being "right" ?) actually change their natural personalities, not a good sign !

[Velvet]

What is wrong with people adapting when circumstances are changing? Because they plan to be around next year too? Covid is a natural phenomenon like gravity, ignore it at your peril...is my thinking.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Covid is a natural phenomenon like gravity, ignore it at your peril...is my thinking.

I'm trying to understand this and I can't.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by nick demis

I know how everyone says that the numbers don't lie, but they do lie. How is it that on the average 200,000 people die of the flue every year but this past year it has been almost 0. I would love to get some true numbers and not what the fear mongers want you to believe.

Who says "figures don't lie" ? LOL, I was so naive when I entered graduate school for the fist time, after 3 graduate degrees I learned many, many, things in the fields of study, but most of all grad school taught me there are MANY ways to make figures "say" what you want them to, and all are perfectly "legal".... sort on various fields, change the standard deviation factor of your research theory, change software programs, sort on more or fewer variables, increase/decrease the study groups, ...... let me count the ways ! One tiny illustration here just an example, not a "fact". If you want to make a particular county of a state look "better" or "worse" in relation to any condition or disease... such as a virus like Covid-19. Just one of hundreds of examples; you could take a look at the stats for populations in jails, or prisons, at residential programs, or even at summer camps for youth. By simply expanding or contracting the study, you can manipulate the data to be FACTUAL, and yet, give the conclusion you desire for your "research article". One of my wisest mentor's in grad school began all advanced statistics classes with the phrase " studies show....... fill in the blank". By the time you have completed all of the required advanced statistics classes, you will know why everything in our environment has "studies that show........... ". How prophetic that was....