[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Posh 08

Thanks for taking the time out of your vacation to scout out problem areas for us folks that don't swallow everything some of the folks on TOTV dish out. You must believe in doing your homework before jumping in.

To those folks reading this forum and gaining information, and that was myself four years ago, I don't blame you for being suspicious. Most of you are so incredulous because it is just too great to be believed. You have never done anything as impulsive in your whole life as coming here and falling in love with the place and buying sometimes on your first visit.

When I was doing my research on this place, and posting my suspicions on this forum I stepped on many a toe and was called a troll, and really got bashed and flamed and beat up on because I just thought the posters must be working for the developer except those who were working for the competition.

You "about to be's" can't be faulted for trying to find out what's wrong with The Villages. Us Frogs know that there are things not perfect, but it is way better than most of us could ever have imagined.

And even now some people have accused me of working for the developer.

Hear that Mr. Morse? Please send a check.

[PennBF]

Should never shoot the messenger. If they are right then they provided
help to The Villager's who rely on information.

[Posh 08]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

To those folks reading this forum and gaining information, and that was myself four years ago, I don't blame you for being suspicious. Most of you are so incredulous because it is just too great to be believed. You have never done anything as impulsive in your whole life as coming here and falling in love with the place and buying sometimes on your first visit.

When I was doing my research on this place, and posting my suspicions on this forum I stepped on many a toe and was called a troll, and really got bashed and flamed and beat up on because I just thought the posters must be working for the developer except those who were working for the competition.

You "about to be's" can't be faulted for trying to find out what's wrong with The Villages. Us Frogs know that there are things not perfect, but it is way better than most of us could ever have imagined.

And even now some people have accused me of working for the developer.

Hear that Mr. Morse? Please send a check.

I wish they would release the LSVs for June. Plan on spending my time there figuring out which CC neighborhood I want BTW does Havana have a pool?

[bestmickey]

I'm angry that folks continue to address the messenger and not the message. I've seen this happen much too frequently to many people on this site. Get a life people! You don't live in heaven .... YET.

Perhaps you continue to attack the messengers rather than the messages, because you failed reading comprehension? Perhaps you don't understand that a message/topic is about the MESSAGE/TOPIC ... and NOT about the messenger/poster!

YES, I ALWAYS do LOT of research when it comes to major decisions I need to make.

And, NOT that it's any of your business, BUT, I have visited TV many times ... and NOT on TV's preview plans. I pay full price to privately rent homes while I'm here. It's my VACATION!

And, YES I have visited TV many times and am still not ready to relocate. Again, not that it's your damn business, but a sibling's health has caused delays in me doing lots of things. I need and want to take care of him since he took care of me when my father died when I was only 1 yr and 2 wks old. Having a total of 8 children in our family, no father, he quiit school and went out to work to take care of all of us! Now it's my turn! Yeah, I have many other siblings, but you know how it frequently goes, there's typically lots of people who disappear when problems arise and solutions are left to the few.

Now that I've educated all you personal attackers, you can go to he_ _. I hope to hear from people who wish to discuss the TOPIC noted herein. It's about properties holding their value ... and whether or not The Villages developer will support homeowners in maintaining their value!

No, I'm not going to quit posting like some others have in the past. I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OPINION AND I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK!

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by bestmickey

My vacation recently started in TV. I am looking around at different areas of TV and since I recalled some previous posts regarding some complaints of deed compliance violations, I'm just driving around to view some of those noted. The first one I drove by is in Lynnhaven, Livingston Loop. To see what the issues were I'll give the link to some previous posts on the topic: When the build out ends? See Post #25, with some others after that.

If the above link doesn't work directly, I suggest you cut/paste it into your browser.

What an ugly mess this is! The people put some type of fake grass or an indoor/outdoor carpet on a section of the front lawn (I don't think that meets anyone's deed compliance based on other posts I've read of fake grass). The homeowners also put a pretty large rectangle of some sort of mulch, nothing of much design, and it's more towards the street than it is the home. There's a bench sitting out there. I'm not certain of all what deed compliance issues are there, but previous posters on the topic said there are many. If I understood things correctly, I think it was said that as the home currently "sits", there's not enough percentage of sod out front. All I can say is, it's ugly.

I fully recognize we all have different opinions of what is ugly versus what is beautiful. But as a potential (eventual) Villager, I'm wondering why, if these are deed compliance violations, why isn't The Village Deed Compliance Unit (or whatever the official name of the group is) doing something about it? After all, previous posters indicated that complaints were filed about the home. I sure would hate to have those people as my neighbor. As the saying goes, "There goes the neighborhood". Who else in the area nearby sees this mess (in my opinion), and will choose to do something similar of their own design? Heck, if deed compliance violations aren't dealt with, what's to stop anyone from doing whatever they want? I would think some property values in the nearby homes are going to suffer. I am personally in favor of regulations for maintaining homes. That insures that properties maintain their $$ value. That would be very important for me.

What can you do in such a situation, since it appears TV is not being responsive to complaints? I'm not a sue-happy person and never have sued anyone. But, my property values are important to me. If the Deed Compliance Unit doesn't resolve the problem(s), can you sue The Villages because of lack of enforcement? Or, what could you do?

I'm sorry... You don't live here, you're on vacation, and you are driving around looking for messy places, and then even bring up the word sue ? And then you give the address !! I don't get it !

[angiefox10]

The messenger comes on, as another poster pointed out, picking apart a landscaping.

This is why when someone posts on TOTV about their landscaping or anything else like this, I ask for a picture. What one person likes another does not.

I for one like artificial turf and in some states you get credits for putting it in. I know California is one of them. We are running out of water and so turf is a "green" alternative.

The problem with turf, it's it's so perfect, it makes "real sod" pale in comparison. If my neighbor put in turf and I didn't, my lawn would NEVER compare.

That being said, my neighbor could get rid of his water bill and his lawn care bill and recoup his money rather quickly while his lawn would always look lovely.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...G8KCtgfT0JXbDA

[senior citizen]

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[bestmickey]

Originally Posted by Bonny

I'm sorry... You don't live here, you're on vacation, and you are driving around looking for messy places, and then even bring up the word sue ? And then you give the address !! I don't get it !

Well, I can't give you a reading comprehension lesson.

[bestmickey]

Originally Posted by angiefox10

The messenger comes on, as another poster pointed out, picking apart a landscaping.

This is why when someone posts on TOTV about their landscaping or anything else like this, I ask for a picture. What one person likes another does not.

I for one like artificial turf and in some states you get credits for putting it in. I know California is one of them. We are running out of water and so turf is a "green" alternative.

The problem with turf, it's it's so perfect, it makes "real sod" pale in comparison. If my neighbor put in turf and I didn't, my lawn would NEVER compare.

That being said, my neighbor could get rid of his water bill and his lawn care bill and recoup his money rather quickly while his lawn would always look lovely.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...G8KCtgfT0JXbDA

You also don't comprehend. Artificial grass is NOT allowed per deed compliance, which was required in the contract you signed when you purchased your home. Artificial grass is NOT the issue here. Deed compliance and potential property value are the issues.

If homeowners aren't forced to comply with the contracts they signed, there is great potential for property values to sink. You see, the purpose of deed compliance and contracts is to insure that properties are maintained in the same fashion as the developer designed for The Villages. If you didn't like the regulations, you shouldn't have purchased a home in a community that has regulations in place. This is potentially my life's savings. You may be able to afford the loss, but I can't.

[angiefox10]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

I totally understand what you are saying re the artificial turf as relates to water shortages plus perhaps in an arrid dry climate.

We have family who have stones or pebbles on their front lawn due to living in the desert southwest and experiencing terrible water shortages.

We know friends who have stones on their front lawn at the Jersey shore, living on a canal. Low maintenance plus hard to keep grass green near salt water and salt air.

We have family in Colorado who put down one patch of very green astro turf for their child's play area..........again, the rest of the property is real grass, but due to dry climate, hard to keep GREEN and lush.

That being said, we also know people who just don't understand "stones" on a front lawn nor astro turf in general. Those who live in places with water restrictions do "get it"........also perhaps people who go between two homes and want a low maintenance, no landscaper type property.

We have other family in landscaping business who only put sod in, where up here it's purely grass seed and fertilizer.

Right now all of our grounds are bright emerald green, having turned early this year due to the week of mid 80 degree temps.

Everything is in bloom early......and no need for astro turf.

I wasn't aware of this as in Sanibel we are under severe water restrictions and there is talk of closing Bonifay golf course do to it. We can only water once a week here and haven't received enough rain this spring for the population. Am I misunderstanding something?

Originally Posted by bestmickey

You also don't comprehend. Artificial grass is NOT allowed per deed compliance, which was required in the contract you signed when you purchased your home. Artificial grass is NOT the issue here. Deed compliance and potential property value are the issues.

If homeowners aren't forced to comply with the contracts they signed, there is great potential for property values to sink. You see, the purpose of deed compliance and contracts is to insure that properties are maintained in the same fashion as the developer designed for The Villages. If you didn't like the regulations, you shouldn't have purchased a home in a community that has regulations in place. This is potentially my life's savings. You may be able to afford the loss, but I can't.

Yes, I do understand the restrictions and wasn't suggesting that someone put artificial turf on their lawn here or that someone would not comply with the rules. I was stating that what one person thinks is "ugly" someone else might not. I was also pointing out how many states are encouraging people to put in the turf as a "green" alternative. I'm sorry if you misunderstood my post.

I'm also under the impression that different parts of the villages have different rules. Is this not true as well?

[Oren L Miller]

Originally Posted by bestmickey

Well, I can't give you a reading comprehension lesson.

I'm sorry that you seem to be very angry. You attacked someones property in an open forum and then gave some logic as to why you were not living here and wanted everyone to accept that. You didn't ask the people that had the "messy yard" if maybe that had some reason that things didn't go well for them as far as their yard. I truly love this forum but as the moderator suggested lets attack problems - when needed and not people. I truly am sorry that you seem to be angry and may be having a bad day. I hope it gets better for you soon.

[bestmickey]

It's clear people want to address why I passed by the home and want question why I posted my initial inquiry here.

It's unfortunate that those who apparently represent, are friends with the developer, and/or perhaps are home sales people, continue to ignore the real issues raised. Well, I explained the purpose of my doing all this. I know my language was clear, for those who can read and understand English.

These issues are, or should be, of importance to most of us who are considering a relocation to The Villages. I have the luxury of time to follow this particular deed compliance issue before I decide whether or not to make a purchase. My guess is other interested parties don't have the luxury of time to wait-and-see what happens. I will be following the meeting minutes to see if action is ever taken and if the issue is ever resolved. That is, if they ever update the minutes for District 5. Here it is April, and the last minutes published on-line are from January. And yes, I will again drive by this home before I leave from my vacation, to visually detect if there has been a change.

Have a nice day everyone! I'm on my way out to do the same.

[Oren L Miller]

[QUOTE=bestmickey;475184]It's clear people want to address why I passed by the home and want question why I posted my initial inquiry here.

It's unfortunate that those who apparently represent, are friends with the developer, and/or perhaps are home sales people, continue to ignore the real issues raised. Well, I explained the purpose of my doing all this. I know my language was clear, for those who can read and understand English.

Again, I am sorry you have to insult people and question people's abilities to read and understand English. Please have a wonderful day out looking around for your eventual place to retire to. Remember - there are places other than The Villages that have people that can read and understand English really well that may be more suitable for you.

[Posh 08]

Originally Posted by angiefox10

The messenger comes on, as another poster pointed out, picking apart a landscaping.

This is why when someone posts on TOTV about their landscaping or anything else like this, I ask for a picture. What one person likes another does not.

I for one like artificial turf and in some states you get credits for putting it in. I know California is one of them. We are running out of water and so turf is a "green" alternative.

The problem with turf, it's it's so perfect, it makes "real sod" pale in comparison. If my neighbor put in turf and I didn't, my lawn would NEVER compare.

That being said, my neighbor could get rid of his water bill and his lawn care bill and recoup his money rather quickly while his lawn would always look lovely.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...G8KCtgfT0JXbDA

Looked at the link. If this forum had a "like" button I'd hit it.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by bestmickey

I'm angry that folks continue to address the messenger and not the message. I've seen this happen much too frequently to many people on this site. Get a life people! You don't live in heaven .... YET.

Perhaps you continue to attack the messengers rather than the messages, because you failed reading comprehension? Perhaps you don't understand that a message/topic is about the MESSAGE/TOPIC ... and NOT about the messenger/poster!

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I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OPINION AND I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK!

bestmickey - perhaps readers here [like myself] found your original [and subsequent] posts provocative...and felt that the issue of deed compliance could have been addressed without the specifics such as the address. a post re JUST the issue of deed compliance might have alleviated the attack on the messenger.

most of us leave our provocative posts for the political forum!

just my opinion, ya know? here's hoping that you are finding some fun stuff to do while you are here on vacation........