[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Our daughter's in London. I agree with these figures and agree with Two Bills as usual.

She couldn't get second shot until most got first...............

They both got Astra-Zeneca.

Which didn't even get "emergency use status" in the US...

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines

Just my opinion, but this is a normal reaction to feeling scared and anxious. In order to feel in control, hoarding supplies makes one feel like they have done something and have overcome a envisioned danger. As many others have pointed out, there are new dangers (no electricity, target for theft, etc.) that introduce new anxiety where ones life is reduced to reacting to perceived concerns. Not a healthy way to live.

Its prudent to have non-perishable food as we all saw with hurricane Katrina, but if one has stockpiled more than a month or so of consumables, I think it is more of a mental health concern than that of being over prepared.

Excellent points made. Really, though, the difference between hoarding and stocking up is the difference between a cult and a religion. A cult is what the OTHER guy believes in.

It comes down to common sense. Perishables--well--perish. We eat perishables now, and have an ample supply of canned goods on hand should the power go down. People with a month's supply of frozen perishables have really only enough perishables for--what, if the power goes down? Three days, maybe four, before most of it goes bad?

MREs get a bad rap, but overall they're not terrible and they are designed to keep active, healthy young men nourished and active in stressful situations. Plus, they're designed to last. And last. And last. having a couple of boxes on hand is a good idea, in my opinion.

[SacDQ]

I remember my friends parents installing a BOMB 💣 shelter during the Cuban missile crisis. It was buried in the backyard. They regretted it latter as it flooded with ever heavy rain and eventually had it removed.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by SacDQ

I remember my friends parents installing a BOMB 💣 shelter during the Cuban missile crisis. It was buried in the backyard. They regretted it latter as it flooded with ever heavy rain and eventually had it removed.

I remember helping a neighbor dig one with a plastic shovel and pail (I was quite young). The problem was that even if you survived the immediate attack, you had to come out sometime, and the best case scenario was you emerged into a nuclear wasteland only to freeze to death in nuclear winter, playing your role in a mass extinction event.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I dunno - I don't think 6 months worth of TP is all that much. Maybe y'all are using too much TP per day? A single 20-roll package of the cheap single-ply Staples stuff (which I like to call sandpaper) will last for 4-5 months in hubby's bathroom. A couple of 9-roll packages from Walmart (double-ply, similar to Angel Soft but the Walmart brand) will keep me comfortable for around the same amount of time. When I get down to my second pack, I start looking to see if it's on sale again, and pick up another pack then.

The Staples stuff I get when hubby's down to around a dozen rolls, that's when I buy a new 20-roll pack. So maybe once every 3-4 months.

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

How many remember this happening when we thought the US was going to get hit with an A-bomb?

My father actually BUILT A BOMB SHELTER, and stalked it. Yup

[DonnaNi4os]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

Its working Summerfield Walmart shut down

“ COVID-19 has forced the closure of the Walmart in Summerfield.

“The store closed at 2 p.m. Friday for “additional cleaning, sanitizing, and stocking.” The store is scheduled to reopen at 6 p.m. Sunday.

The company would not confirm the reason for the closing, which is taking place during the Florida sales tax holiday, which continues through Monday. Stores like Walmart regularly post huge sales during back-to-school shopping sprees fueled by the tax free holiday.

However, employees told **************.com that COVID-19 was the reason for the store’s closing”

Many of the Rec centers have closed temporarily for deep cleaning over the years. Unless you know for certain that the reason Walmart closed for cleaning was due to a Covid outbreak, you are only spreading rumors.

[Orvil]

I've always bought my TP from BJ's, Costco or Sams. I buy the huge jumbo pack maybe once a year. I also buy other household staples such as paper towels and washing liquids in bulk.

This has been a lifelong practice. It is not a change of behavior. I also keep a little extra water on hand. I own a dual fuel generator. Barbeque propane tanks are easy to handle and clean. These came in handy a few months ago when my town was hit by a tornado. I was able to have hot water using the generator to power my on demand hot water heater. And, I was able to run the garage beer fridge.

Hot showers and cold beer. Do you really need anything else? At the end of a hot day, it's delightful. I also offered hot showers and an cold beer to my neighbors who were not so fortunate. A few of my neighbors had whole house generators, too. They came in handy while we waited two weeks for power to be restored.

I have a shotgun and ammunition for it, too. If you need 4,000 rounds, you need to go to the range to improve your accuracy.

Go look in your pantry and see if you don't need to acquire a case of water and some canned goods. It's a good idea to keep the barbeque tank full, too.

Hoarding is a mental disorder. Hoarding is an uncontrollable compulsion. Being prepared for emergencies is called prudence and forethought. Being prepared for emergencies is a higher order of intelligence.

[DonnaNi4os]

Originally Posted by Penglobal

With the unbelievable rise in COVID cases, with hospitals nearing their capacity and many American's still refusing to vaccinate themselves, It's quite apparent that the country "MAY" go into a modified lockdown and once again everyday commodities will be in short supply.

In order to protect myself and my family, I have purchased a deep freezer which is inside my garage and filled with meats. I have stocked-up on everyday items, I have a 180 day supply of required medication and my spare bedroom is filled with everything I will need to survive the next commodity shortage. You may think that I am hoarding, but I am preemptively protecting and providing for my family if the need should arise. I hope that nothing will happen, but just in case, I hope you guys are also taking precautions for the next round of "POSSIBLE" shortages. Be Safe and proactive.

I hope for your sake that you either have a generator or you are prepared to lose all of that food in the event a hurricane causes a loss of electricity for several days.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Rose Ann Vinci Igoe

My father actually BUILT A BOMB SHELTER, and stalked it. Yup

In a lot of situations, STALKING is a crime

I'm pretty sure people who built bomb shelters stocked them up

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Paper1

The next event we need to be prepping for is collapse of our dollar, it's coming.

Reality...........hospitals are filling up because CV patients are drowning in their OWN fluids in their OWN lungs. Be glad it's NOT you because you got your vaccination. Hospitals are turning away elective surgeries and losing money on long stays of CV patients. Hospital staff morale is low and nurses and staff are QUITTING. Because of all of that, everyone's insurance WILL INCREASE. That's the REAL......reality!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Reality...........hospitals are filling up because CV patients are drowning in their OWN fluids in their OWN lungs. Be glad it's NOT you because you got your vaccination. Hospitals are turning away elective surgeries and losing money on long stays of CV patients. Hospital staff morale is low and nurses and staff are QUITTING. Because of all of that, everyone's insurance WILL INCREASE. That's the REAL......reality!

Nope, not true.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by biker1

This stuff is pretty easy to research so I really don't understand how you can get it wrong so often. Connecticut is actually at about 64% (fully vaccinated), not 85%. At least you have stopped saying that we needed to be at 85% in April (and now you are using May). As I already pointed out, this was impossible due to when the vaccine was rolled out by age group. About 18% of the population is under 12 and are not eligible for the vaccination. Please stop spouting nonsensical numbers.

The 85% that I saw on TV for Connecticut may (?) have been for........those that have the POSSIBILITY of vaccination - which would LEAVE OUT the 18% of children that are ineligible for the vaccine. I try NOT to concern myself with small DETAILS because that causes people to miss the big picture. Which in this particular case is that Connecticut has done a BETTER public health job than Florida, Alabama, and Texas! And one can INFER from those facts as to which state has the SUPERIOR LEADERSHIP. To put it SIMPLY.......Florida = BAD.......Connecticut = GOOD. There - no more confusion!

Now, as to the GREAT April or May controversy (or whatever month).......the BIG PICTURE here is that the great UNITED STATES failed and FAILED miserably at its # 1 priority - which is to protect its citizens. That failure started L O N G before April 2020.

The point is that the US COULD have had a much quicker and better response to the CV Pandemic. We had the tools. We did NOT have the 100% conviction of willpower to accomplish the purpose. The end results are that MANY typical citizens (such as the topic of this thread) are in a tizzy of chaos and confusion about the future of our once-great country. Many comments like, " will the dollar be worthless" and "should I hoard food" come about BECAUSE there is no longer faith in the whole FABRIC of democracy and US Democracy. We will have to find a way to end the confusion and answer those questions or we can just have to kiss Democracy goodbye!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Reality...........hospitals are filling up because CV patients are drowning in their OWN fluids in their OWN lungs. Be glad it's NOT you because you got your vaccination. Hospitals are turning away elective surgeries and losing money on long stays of CV patients. Hospital staff morale is low and nurses and staff are QUITTING. Because of all of that, everyone's insurance WILL INCREASE. That's the REAL......reality!

Source?

[stanley]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

BECAUSE there is no longer faith in the whole FABRIC of democracy and US Democracy. We will have to find a way to end the confusion and answer those questions or we can just have to kiss Democracy goodbye!

Why can't you get it through your head that the United States is not a "democracy"........It's a Constitutional Republic.