[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

Still 90+ degrees in Central Florida and one week after Labor Day. In S. Florida "snow bird" season starts Thanksgiving week end. Sounds more like someone in the sun too long would do. Snowbirds and tourists are why Florida does not have a state income tax.

Agree. Not snowbirds…just idiots. And yes, thanks to the snowbirds, tourists and even the large number of transplants we don’t have income tax. Even so wish they would leave the culture they are trying to get away from back north or west or wherever

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by rustyp

I use the tell tale sign of those facial cigarette looking burn marks from the dermatologist to identify a local. A long term local will have those burns combined with mile high white zinc covered ears.

Now that is funny

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by GreySkies

This is my 3rd time as a renter in TV, I rent from mid-September to early April. I chose this time frame so that I can experience the busy period when the population in TV is at its greatest. I have still not decided if I am going to make TV my final stop when I retire in a year or two based on what I have learned during my previous two rental periods. It’s a shame that there is a certain segment of the TV population that always finds something to complain about while pointing a finger at snowbirds or part-time renters. Is life for you that boring that you feel the need to seek out, identify and document the drawbacks of being a snowbird? Instead of complaining, how about making an effort to communicate with them, you just might make a new friend.

"It’s a shame that there is a certain segment of the TV population that always finds something to complain about while pointing a finger at snowbirds or part-time renters."

If there is one immutable, universal Truth it is that a gaggle of geezers 150,000 strong (give or take) will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

[Bitsee]

Well we are still in northern Wisconsin till the end of October.

The weather here is absolutely gorgeous...75* and sunny with a beautiful cool breeze.

Took a leisurely 10 mile Ebike ride in the country today.
Rode past dozens of pumpkin patches, acres of sunflowers, fresh Cranberry boggs, and apple orchards beyond belief..literally dripping with apples hanging almost on the ground.

Fall is definitely here, the leaves are turning more each day !

Decompress ??? Surely you jest !

[toeser]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Their back!!!!!! Snowbirds spending 3-6 months up north have to readjust to a faster pace of life up north. Once they come back they need to decompress to a slower pace of life here. This takes a little time, probably about 1 month. Its time to chill out snowbirds for your own safety, and ours.

While riding my bike today, my wife and I were passed by a speed racer going over the chitty chatty bridge. You know the bright colored dressed bikers who just want to go fast. He passed us, flew by whispering out of my way, and then about 2 miles down the path, we stopped to see him lying on the ground and being helped to his feet by the people whose car he ran into. 911 was called and there was a good dent in the backside of the car, hopefully he was okay.

While crossing the Lily bridge there was a biker in front of us crossing over the highway, a golf car crossed the solid line to pass all of us just before a corner. The biker shouted something and we proceeded on. Once into the Brownwood parking lot, the biker proceeded to chase the golf car down as he was going to the gas station. We did not stay for the conversation. But it wasn't going to be pleasant.

While resting at the Eisenhower Rec. Center, there was a women painting the door so the side door was being used. A woman came hurrying in carrying a bucket and a pilates ball and decided to hit the automatic door opener. The door opened and hit the painter in the head. And the women scurried into the side door.

All of this happened in one morning, and we figured out that the snowbirds had returned. Please be warned to watch out for the faster paced snowbirds. They need to decompress and adjust to the pace down here before more injuries occur. You have been warned, they may also need an attitude adjustment, please give them time to re-adjust.

Kind of biased on your part to just assume all were snowbirds. You really have an attitude.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Their back!!!!!! Snowbirds spending 3-6 months up north have to readjust to a faster pace of life up north. Once they come back they need to decompress to a slower pace of life here. This takes a little time, probably about 1 month. Its time to chill out snowbirds for your own safety, and ours.

While riding my bike today, my wife and I were passed by a speed racer going over the chitty chatty bridge. You know the bright colored dressed bikers who just want to go fast. He passed us, flew by whispering out of my way, and then about 2 miles down the path, we stopped to see him lying on the ground and being helped to his feet by the people whose car he ran into. 911 was called and there was a good dent in the backside of the car, hopefully he was okay.

While crossing the Lily bridge there was a biker in front of us crossing over the highway, a golf car crossed the solid line to pass all of us just before a corner. The biker shouted something and we proceeded on. Once into the Brownwood parking lot, the biker proceeded to chase the golf car down as he was going to the gas station. We did not stay for the conversation. But it wasn't going to be pleasant.

While resting at the Eisenhower Rec. Center, there was a women painting the door so the side door was being used. A woman came hurrying in carrying a bucket and a pilates ball and decided to hit the automatic door opener. The door opened and hit the painter in the head. And the women scurried into the side door.

All of this happened in one morning, and we figured out that the snowbirds had returned. Please be warned to watch out for the faster paced snowbirds. They need to decompress and adjust to the pace down here before more injuries occur. You have been warned, they may also need an attitude adjustment, please give them time to re-adjust.

Maybe doggy-downers would help.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

Still 90+ degrees in Central Florida and one week after Labor Day. In S. Florida "snow bird" season starts Thanksgiving week end. Sounds more like someone in the sun too long would do. Snowbirds and tourists are why Florida does not have a state income tax.

Tourists are VERY important - especially to Walt Disney World.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Veiragirl

It's called a tanning salon.

What is? Besides a tanning salon, that is.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

The man on the bike hit the left rear side of the car, it was damaged there, he obviously
ran the crossing without looking. Hopefully he is okay.......Serious exercise bikers need to go on the roadways and NOT the walk paths that don't allow golf cars,
The golf car that passed the biker going over the highway bridge came close to him in a no pass zone and the women going to workout looked at the painted and then still pressed the auto door............

These 3 workout people were not focused properly or bad things would not have happened. Some answers just call them stupid people, inconsiderate is a better word,
With the starting influx of snowbirds they are still getting used to the bubble again and have an adjustment period. An assumption on snowbirds of course, maybe wrong, we are grateful to them for leaving the place to the frogs for 1/2 of the year.

As the population grows people need to be more careful. Thats the point.

If that was the point, why mention (blame) snowbirds at all?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Which category of cool per your own declaration a short time ago ?

"The younger, more sophisticated and savvy folks seem to be the new comers down south.

The middle of TV seems to have a lot of successful folks, fairly new to retirement.

By the time you get to the Northern/Historic area, you have the much older folks who moved to TV when it wasn't much more than a trailer park. These people seem to want the world to return to the way it was in 70's and they rail against anything new, while they bemoan the passing of the "good old days", when Harold Schwartz roamed Spanish Springs."

Somehow it seems like the Historic section of TV Land just got prejudiced against through no fault of its own.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by D&BSmith

Snow bird here. We're not home yet although we will make sure we wear a white "S" on our backs when we do. We are 8 months at home in The Villages and 4 months in New England. By the time those 4 months are over I cannot wait to get home.

Regarding time to decompress, it does take us a bit of time to get back into a slower pace. A few rounds of golf usually takes care of that.

Drinks and music at the squares should help.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Can't recognize a snowbird? Easiest thing in the world. Most folks wear shorts here. Check the legs and arms. Tanned arms + lily-white legs = SNOWBIRD. Not all, of course. But the odds certainly favor that.

These threads in the fall are as predictible as the sun coming up. A small core group of curmudgeons usually need to vent about increased traffic, boneheaded drivers, longer wait times at restaurants, prime-time tee times becoming harder to obtain, etc. etc. All true, of course, at least to an extent. But what some folks don't seem to realize is that the 'birds overwhelmingly are either property owners here in TV themselves, or are renting a home owned by ANOTHER property owner: in BOTH cases that means that the amenity fee for that home is paid for them just as it is for us who enjoy our little slice of heaven here year-round.

In other words, the 'birds aren't taking what is rightfully ours. Not in any way, shape, or form. They are merely claiming what they have every right to claim.

Interesting thing. One of the reasons we decided to buy here, was our experience as renters. Almost to a person the locals were warm and welcoming people, more than happy to engage us in conversation and share what they knew about life in TV. Today when we encounter 'birds we like to engage them in conversation. Admittedly some are a bit circumspect at first (they read the negative comments too, I suppose) but they warm up quickly once they realize we don't hate them or see them as interlopers of one kind or other.

Hopefully others make the same sort of effort. Makes things more pleasant for all of us.

I don't mind the increased traffic. I mind that the state or local governments do NOT plan well enough in advance to provide the NECESSARY extra lanes for the winter and as the Florida population is growing rapidly.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DonH57

Snowbirds aren't back yet. I've seen no increase in traffic. I've observed a lot of families visiting lately. The other reason I know is our foursome has yet to be hit upon while we're on the green and that only happens from late October thru March. It's just a fact!

Didn't Jimmy Buffet have a song about changes in LATITUDE causing changes in ATTITUDE?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by rustyp

I use the tell tale sign of those facial cigarette looking burn marks from the dermatologist to identify a local. A long term local will have those burns combined with mile high white zinc covered ears.

Actually, as far as sunburned ears go, I try to wear a hat with an all-around brim as much as possible. I try to wear a long-sleeved shirt as much as possible. Where I let down my guard and make a mistake is in getting too much sun on the back of my hands. It is hard to wear gloves when out in the sun all of the time.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by GreySkies

This is my 3rd time as a renter in TV, I rent from mid-September to early April. I chose this time frame so that I can experience the busy period when the population in TV is at its greatest. I have still not decided if I am going to make TV my final stop when I retire in a year or two based on what I have learned during my previous two rental periods. It’s a shame that there is a certain segment of the TV population that always finds something to complain about while pointing a finger at snowbirds or part-time renters. Is life for you that boring that you feel the need to seek out, identify and document the drawbacks of being a snowbird? Instead of complaining, how about making an effort to communicate with them, you just might make a new friend.

So let me know when you find that utopia.