[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

WOW. All these first time posters just popping out of nowhere.

I know. Right?

If I say more I will be in the bad chair again.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Never said that but when all of a sudden in this thread (including the OP) which is obviously intended to "inflame" (TROLL) all these new people show up. There's been DOZENS of threads like this one so where were they then? Sorry, if it looks like a fish and smells like a fish it's fishy. I'd love to see the IP of all these "random" new posters as I hardly think they would use a VPN.

I agree. Yes I do. I could add to it but I won't. A certain percentage of pot stirring posts do keep us reading...………..especially when we get a major down turn in views when the snowbirds go home.

[deanjohnson]

It’s past time to opens outdoor sports. They are encouraging everyone to eat, teach etc outdoors, so why restrict sports. Most like tennis, pickle ball are self distancing in there setup. Also sun, heat and humidity are the enemy of virus and lack of exercise is the enemy of old folks. So let’s get going and and those who are worried do not have to participate. Lack of exercise is killing us right now!

[kendi]

Originally Posted by Professor

As the saying goes...you can't fix stupid. Unfortunately your selfish attitude will put others at risk when you shop, or come in contact with others who do not know about your risky behavior. Why do you think you have the right to put others at risk? Are your rights more important than theirs? I don't think so. Grow up and make a few sacrifices for the good of mankind. The world will be a better place if you do...

So tired of the "can't fix stupid" phrase and calling others "selfish" comments. Having a different opinion does not make another stupid or selfish. Sad that even as adults, seniors even, people don't know how to converse respectfully without the verbal attacks.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Softball!!! REALLY!!!EXERCISE????

[Scorpyo]

I want to do what I want to do period. That’s a typical human response. So, why not drive when we’re drunk. I think the word is consequences. If you hurt or kill someone you face the consequences. Hey I enjoy it. If you’re asymptomatic and you play softball and perspire and those little sweat drops infect and kill someone else you face no consequences. So, no consequences no problem. If one of your family members succumbed to someone else’s selfish attitude and you knew who that person was, would you simply say, hey they had the right to do what they wanted. I think not. 60,000 people are dead and guess what, no one did it. As the Shaggy song goes, “It wasn’t me”. But someone did do it, they didn’t get it from themselves. If a person’s DNA was transferred with the virus and it could be traced back to the person who transmitted it then we be singing a different tune. Hey I might lose my softball glove in a lawsuit or even my freedom so maybe I can give up softball for a little while longer. Don’t misunderstand me, I go out shopping. I wear a mask and I take my own wipes. If I get the virus at least I’ll know that I did my best to avoid it and if I should have it at least I'm not going to give it to someone else. What I don’t appreciate is people with carefree attitudes shopping without a mask, passing by me within a foot or two and sneezing and coughing. Again, why should they care, there’s no consequences.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Long time listener, first time caller.
I agree in part, with the OP.
However, I'm also getting very sick and tired of being judged for going out and getting on with my life. I get dirty looks, rude comments and more when I go to the store because I'm not wearing a mask. I do not wear this garb because I already had covid and have had an FDA approved antibody test showing that I have the antibodies.
Before you judge people, think about what you DON'T know about them. Maybe if everyone just worried about themselves, we'd have a more harmonious community.

When I see people out and about without face covering, I'm beginning to believe they have had Covid-19 and have developed antibodies.

I'm waiting for the T-shirt that says on the front and back, "I've had Covid-19 and can NOT infect you".

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by eyc234

Can not vouch whether you had it or not but if you did, you should know that having antibodies has not been proven to be any protection from not getting it again or even passing it on to others.

Then why are recovered Covid patients being asked to donate their blood for their antibody rich plasma? Transfusing antibody rich plasma has been used in treating Covid-19.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

I prefer to go out and socialize and get on with my life.
This pandemic won't go away until an effective vaccine is developed.
We are ALL going to get exposed to Covid at some time in the future,
and most all of us will survive.
Those who wish to hide at home and minimize their social exposure,
are well within their rights to do so just as those who want to venture
out and get on with life.
Shutting down the economy is the worst thing to happen...
The Swedes have it right.

It still probably won’t go away then.

[chvlt57]

The virus cannot be eradicated, only managed; the purpose of the lock down was to flatten the curve, less than 100 cases in a community of 100,000+ seems pretty flat.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Long time listener, first time caller.
I agree in part, with the OP.

I already had covid and have had an FDA approved antibody test showing that I have the antibodies.

The FDA is not aware of an antibody test that has been validated for diagnosis of SARS-CoV-2 infection. While the FDA remains open to receiving submissions for these tests for such uses, based on the underlying scientific principles of antibody tests, the FDA does not expect that an antibody test can be shown to definitively diagnose or exclude SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Important Information on the Use of Serological (Antibody) Tests for COVID-19 - Letter to Health Care Providers | FDA

[Bill1701]

I'm sure you realized when you posted this that all the old, terrified, entitled 'me first' Villagers would have a fit.

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by Artar

It's time to get on with our lives! The villages needs to take the chains off the gates and allow residents the use of OUR amenities. I and many more like me have had it. I would rather take a calculated risk and live life on my terms than to cower in my living room listening to the liberal talking heads feeding me lies and half truths. It should be clear by now that this entire fiasco will be the end of the Republic unless we as individuals say"no more".
As for me, I'll take my chances out in the fresh air with others who enjoy playing senior softball. Yes I'll be taking a risk, but it needs to be my choice. As for those of you who wish to condemn my attitude as reckless I say MYOB. I know there will be many who will say this is selfish, I say it's more selfish to sit comfortably at home while Millions of young families struggle without work, without money, without hope.

I support your attitude 1000% and I also support those who wish to stay at home to, supposedly, decrease their risk. But, allowing politicians to destroy our freedoms, regardless of their intent, is accepting tyranny.

Fred

"The ideal citizen of a tyrannical state is the man or woman who bows in silent obedience in exchange for the status of a
well cared for herd animal. Thinking people become the tyrant's greatest enemy."
...Claire Wolfe, 101 Things to Do Til the Revolution

[Gary Moscowitz]

At the beginning of this, yes, I would have said and did say such an attitude as yours could get us all killed! However, much has happened since, not the least of which is the observation that Covid-19 is not the scourge we all thought, including the experts, it was! Knowledge is power! To further muddy the waters the WHO who once backed China’s propaganda now says the Swedish approach, social distancing when possible, but keeping the economy fully open has their endorsement ! We’re we all hoodwinked? Was this a way for China w the help of the WHO to effectively destroy the economies of other countries because their own suffered? Leveling the playing field , so to speak? Regardless I have changed my tune in that we need to open things back up and I think being overly cautious is not necessarily the way to go. Social distancing where possible & masks when not possible to social distance & effective hand washing should be the limit of our restrictions. When all was said & done the numbers for Sweden who kept their economy running were statistically no different than ours & other countries who followed the US. So other than the real fear( at the time) that our healthcare system would be overwhelmed, none of the other fears came to be! What does that tell us? That our practices of social distancing has worked & in all probability will continue to work with us going about our usual & customary lives. It does require that masks & gloves be readily accessible to ALL! It is still a chore to secure these items! At the same time that we are willing to take our own “risks “ it is important that we do not choose to sue over every & any case of contracted Covid ( sorry for lawyers already foaming at the mouth over anticipated litigations) . I have done an almost 180 & my science/disease education & background tells me it’s time to start living again! My only request for those who want to act as if nothing’s happened, it to simply be more respectful of the people around you. Other than that, let’s start living again as a free thinking, socially responsible & life loving people.

[bobnyce]

Has anyone seen the pool chairs 6 ft. apart even though couples live together they cannot sit together at a pool. Softball players are spread out over the field. We don't get any closer than the clerk at the store. When the team is batting, three players are waiting outside the dugout to bat, two others are coaching first and third base leaving seven in the dugout. So spread them out behind the screen and play ball!!! All of these opening decisions are arbitrary anyway and if you are concerned don't play! I have seen serious violations of the 6 ft rule with 20 golfers congregating while waiting to tee off. Come on folks use common sense and get back to life.