[Cliff Fr]

This is just my opinion and it's worth what you paid for it, lol. It appears to me that the latest variant is quite a bit less lethal. Tracking new cases is becoming like tracking new cases of the common cold.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by Rooklift

Not good. Very bad. Forcing vaccinations does not stop the spread of the virus. State your reason why and how this could be good and your anticipated outcome of forced vaccination.

Not sure if you are referring to a specific post or not, but in general - no one is forcing anyone to get vaxed. Society has decided to encourage people to get vaxed because of the well understood benefits (despite the protests of several stable geniuses on this forum) of the vaccine. You are, however, given an out - you can get tested to "prove" that at some point you did not have the virus. For a long time, the gov and many businesses even footed the bill. Footing the bill is stopping, at least for testing, in come cases.

So, to summarize

A company is withing their rights to insist that all employees be vaxed or tested regularly.
A person can refuse to be vaxed and or tested if they chose.
If the company and the person cannot find common ground, they are free to part ways

"Common ground" might include "the company agrees to pay for testing" or in might not.

No one is forced to do anything.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by B-flat

Sure give the employees even more money and benefits.........then instead of $5 for a cup of Mocha Bocha Carmel Latte it will be more like $8 to $10. That makes no sense

I personally think $5 is to much for cup of coffee

[maistocars]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Absolutely agree, especially for those who refuse to be vaccinated.

Yeah, we'll just ignore those outside studies such as the one from Ontario, Canada (83% of population is vaxxed) last week that showed over 70% of those hospitalized were vaxxed. Source below. Vitamins for me. Thanks for playing. Hospitalizations | COVID-19 (coronavirus) in Ontario

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

They are working, at better paying jobs.

Where are these "better paying jobs"?

"According to Glassdoor, baristas at Starbucks typically make between $10 and $15 an hour. But hourly wages are hardly what makes this company so great to work for. Starbucks also offers healthcare benefits for both part- and full-time workers, along with 401(k) matching, and discounted stock options for company shares"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jdulej

Not sure if you are referring to a specific post or not, but in general - no one is forcing anyone to get vaxed. Society has decided to encourage people to get vaxed because of the well understood benefits (despite the protests of several stable geniuses on this forum) of the vaccine. You are, however, given an out - you can get tested to "prove" that at some point you did not have the virus. For a long time, the gov and many businesses even footed the bill. Footing the bill is stopping, at least for testing, in come cases.

So, to summarize

A company is withing their rights to insist that all employees be vaxed or tested regularly.
A person can refuse to be vaxed and or tested if they chose.
If the company and the person cannot find common ground, they are free to part ways

"Common ground" might include "the company agrees to pay for testing" or in might not.

No one is forced to do anything.

"Shirley" you jest...

[mcwood4d]

Starbucks has some of the lowest paying positions in the industry right now...(up north) people are going across the street to Dunkin and getting $18/hr PLUS benefits if over 30 hrs/wk. The company talks big about equity, fairness and fair trade but...you fill in the blanks.

[Carlsondm]

Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109

My apology
I’m sorry that I’ve taken such good care of myself my whole life by eating properly and exercising, that I’m now a bad person because I’m not vaccinated. Unless someone can tell me THE LONG TERM AFFECTS.....YOU get the vaccine......I’ll stay healthy be no putting anything foreign in my body

Just keep testing and isolating to protect those who can’t benefit from the vaccine. I respect your position. Just choose your options carefully and help us starve this virus family.

[Petersweeney]

Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109

My apology
I’m sorry that I’ve taken such good care of myself my whole life by eating properly and exercising, that I’m now a bad person because I’m not vaccinated. Unless someone can tell me THE LONG TERM AFFECTS.....YOU get the vaccine......I’ll stay healthy be no putting anything foreign in my body

Virtue signaling by those who got vaccinated….too dumb to know the real science-

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

I think employees need to pay for testing too.

Good luck finding the tests. My Mom is in Assisted Living. Each week, before going in to see her, the front desk nurse would give me the 15 minute nose swab test. For the past three weeks I have had to bring a sealed box/test to the facility, where they did the test. They were unable to obtain them. I have been unable to find any as well.

[Ruggiero56]

Originally Posted by patfla06

I went to Starbucks Trailwinds today.
Lobby was closed. New drive thru hours are until 3 pm and
closed on Thursday. I asked and it’s due to staffing shortages.
Oh and the prices went up again.

How are people NOT working??

Here’s one better —- Starbucks at Sumter Landing today has a sign: “New Hours: 5 am - 11 am”. Really - 11 am????? What a shame. Guess I’ll go to Dunkin’ from now on for coffee drinks.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Buckeyephan

It is interesting that the vaccinated don’t need to test even though they can still get the variant and pass it on. Several friends and family members have experienced this. So what good is all of this doing if the asymptomatic person handing me my latte has been vaxed and is wearing a cloth mask?

I just keep in mind that being vaccinated and boosted along with a good immune system is all one needs to know to feel safe in this crazy world of Covid these days. The key, however, is having a good immune system and not a compromised immune system.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109

My apology
I’m sorry that I’ve taken such good care of myself my whole life by eating properly and exercising, that I’m now a bad person because I’m not vaccinated. Unless someone can tell me THE LONG TERM AFFECTS.....YOU get the vaccine......I’ll stay healthy be no putting anything foreign in my body

Hit a bit of a nerve there, didn't I.

[Lrrhcat]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Simple. If you pay people to sit on their a$$es--don't be surprised if they do what you pay them to do.

Explain to me how they're getting paid to sit on their asses? Unemployment is maxed at $275 a week in Florida and you have to qualify. There hasn't been any extra unemployment money in Florida since June. So I'd like to know where you think "they're" (who's they're anyway?) getting money.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bhighley

Because the vaccines are so effective… 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is CNN

The vaccines are effective at keeping people from being hospitalized. Most people hospitalized with Covid are UN-vaccinated. What is it going to take for people to understand what the vaccines are meant to do. These mRNA vaccines are not sterilizing vaccines which do prevent the spread of a disease. These vaccines were developed to keep people out of the hospital and to prevent most people from dying of Covid. They do what they were developed to do.

Maybe in the future there will be a sterilizing vaccine to prevent transmission of the virus. By the way......."sterilizing" does not mean sterilizing a human, it means sterilizing the virus.