[Windguy]

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin

$15 billion in subsidies to the oil industry. 38 cents a gallon in Florida taxes and 18 cents per gallon in federal tax. You were saying...

That’s a gross underestimate. Think about how many trillions of dollars we have spent to protect and control the oil fields in the Middle East. Oil has been heavily subsidized for generations. If we paid the real cost of gas at the pump, the price would be double digits.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Windguy

That’s a gross underestimate. Think about how many trillions of dollars we have spent to protect and control the oil fields in the Middle East. Oil has been heavily subsidized for generations. If we paid the real cost of gas at the pump, the price would be double digits.

I do believe that OPEC is controlling the oil fields in the Middle East...

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by imalowany

Fact is there isn’t a reason now that there are Lithium batteries not to own an Electric vehicle or golf cart. They require a lot less maintenance, last a whole lot longer and don’t contribute to the green house affect and climate change. If you don’t believe in science, believe in common sense. Try driving one and you’ll see. They are better in every way. Faster, quieter, maintenance free can be charged at home so you alway have a full tank the next morning etc. the prices are also coming down so they are affordable.

Originally Posted by Proveone

Get a life! You are paying a gas tax! Ever hear about Global Warming? Save our planet for your kids and grand kids before it is too late for them! Stop listening to the climate and vaccine deniers.

And there's two more to add to the (misguided) bandwagon.

Believe in science???? OK, here's the science-------

We are currently in an ICE AGE, and have been in one for approx. the last 5 million years. During this ice age, there have been periods of glaciation and periods of interglacial thaws, each cycle lasting about 60,000 years. Currently, we are on the warming side of the interglacial thaw curve, and will be so for the next 10-20,000 years, until we hit maximum warming and the planet again begins to cool, headed for another period of glaciation. This cycle has repeated itself dozens of times over the last 5 million years, and HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUVs, FOSSIL FUELS, or "green" politics. PERIOD. Guess what? In 10,000 years, all our major coastal cities will be under 100+ feet of water. And 30,000 years after that, NYC will again be under 2 miles of ice.
Why is this happening???? Because land mass absorbs heat and water reflects it. (simple, right?). When more water is tied up in ice, there is less ocean water exposed and more land exposed, so the planet slowly warms, ending the period of glaciation. The reverse occurs when more ocean is exposed after thawing. Hence the cyclical and geological nature of "climate change". Notice THERE ARE NO SUVS INVOLVED.
Want to know why the planet was at least 10 degrees warmer 60 million years ago???? To answer that you have to understand that the NUMBER ONE greenhouse gas is water vapor, NOT CO2. About that time both the Rocky Mountains and the Himalayan Mountains arose. Tall mountains act as a heat sink by removing water vapor in the form of rain, hence reducing the number one greenhouse gas and cooling the planet. (Again, NO SUVs)
Now inevitably, one or more of the gullible will post that 80+% of the climate scientists feel that carbon emissions contribute to global warming. I will counter that 80+% of climate scientists are dependent upon government funding for survival, and "climate change" is the political flavor (hoax) of the last 20 years. If you look at the scientists that are not receiving federal grants, they tend to agree that fossil fuels, to date, have had little to no impact on climate. Very simply, the power of the sun and geologic forces is millions of times greater that your Chevy Tahoe. Those that think there is some impact from man's activity state that it is due the rise of agriculture in Asia over the last 8,000 years, and not fossil fuels.

So, you wanted to believe in science and common sense. There it is in a nutshell, laid out in easy to understand terms. And despite that, I'm willing to bet that those facts won't change a single mind, because, like the author of "An Inconvenient Truth", they are generally true believers and zealots. By the way, Al, how come all the ice caps haven't disappeared like they were supposed to by 2010? In some places they are growing. How inconvenient is that to your bogus theory?????

So anyone who wants to pull off the road every few hours and recharge, have at it. The local power company thanks you. And I thank you since I'll be hundreds of miles ahead of you on a long trip

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

It was in the title of the post.

Nothing in the title said the OP owned a Tesla.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I do believe that OPEC is controlling the oil fields in the Middle East...

Say what? We have spent trillions fighting wars and defending access to those oil fields. I wasn’t talking about controlling the price of gas.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by imalowany

That’s right I forgot oil never pollutes. What was I thinking. I forgot all the oil wells that spill millions or gallons of oil a year into the sea or by products going into the air. Silly me. There isn’t a perfect solution but solar power is getting closer. You need the batteries to store the Electricity as of right now is you produce it and what ever isn’t consumed is lost. Your point of a 6 year old working, it’s tragic but don’t wear anything as most are made by minors in 3rd world countries.

WOW - Glad you’re okay with childhood slave labor. If you read the article (which I did) it’s actually 7 year olds, not 6.

Solar is great, but THE BATTERIES are more of a disaster for the environment than oil.

I mostly wear Lulu Lemon
Lululemon currently manufactures its products in several different locations including Canada, the United States, Peru, China, Bangladesh, Indonesia, India, Israel, Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and Switzerland. The lululemon site reports that factory conditions are safe, clean, air conditioned, have adequate lighting and are overall healthy.

I think I’ve owned 3 pair of ‘Nike’s in my life.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Drakeswood

Any charging stations nearby?

Find an EV Charging Station Near You | EV Fast Charging Stations Map

[Roron123]

441 at WAWA and 44 in Brownwood at the Hotel

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Windguy

Say what? We have spent trillions fighting wars and defending access to those oil fields. I wasn’t talking about controlling the price of gas.

Those who pump the oil control the fields... OPEC...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Windguy

Say what? We have spent trillions fighting wars and defending access to those oil fields. I wasn’t talking about controlling the price of gas.

Then why did you specifically mention "the price of gas"?

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Neils

Gas station on every corner. Not funded by Taxpayers.

People will argue about anything. Roughly 110 years ago. gas stations? You would buy gasoline by the gallon from a hardware store. As far as funded by taxpayers. Not sure which is more true oil is so complex and confusing but there is plenty of taxpayer substitutes and taxes charged. No longer posted on the pump but what you/we pay for gasoline is roughly 1/3 taxes.

Not just rebates on electric cars but electricity also gets tax subsidies. An interesting issue is if the tax on gasoline pays some part, who knows of the expense to build and maintain roads, electric cars do not pay.

Solutions are far harder to find than complaints and that has always been so. Fair? Yet, another endless debate with no answer. If, anyone cares, my car is gasoline.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by DAVES

People will argue about anything. Roughly 110 years ago. gas stations? You would buy gasoline by the gallon from a hardware store. As far as funded by taxpayers. Not sure which is more true oil is so complex and confusing but there is plenty of taxpayer substitutes and taxes charged. No longer posted on the pump but what you/we pay for gasoline is roughly 1/3 taxes.

Not just rebates on electric cars but electricity also gets tax subsidies. An interesting issue is if the tax on gasoline pays some part, who knows of the expense to build and maintain roads, electric cars do not pay.

Solutions are far harder to find than complaints and that has always been so. Fair? Yet, another endless debate with no answer. If, anyone cares, my car is gasoline.

Returning the favor you gave me-----I DON'T CARE

But, off the record, great choice!

[butlerism]

OP.
Electricity costs more than gasoline.
Pay for your volts, it is not free or green.
Also....
Owning an electric car implies you live on a leash.

Wake up

[ProfessorDave]

Many Wawa stations.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Then why did you specifically mention "the price of gas"?

Because I was referring to the taxes on the gas. We now subsidize oil by spending trillions protecting the oil fields with our military. If we got the tax money needed to fund the Fifth Fleet from gas taxes instead of income taxes, gas would be over $10/gallon.

And, what’s really sad about how much it costs us to control and protect the oil fields is that we (the US) use only a small fraction of that oil.