[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bitsee

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

Well, I just think I'll paraphrase Nick Massi from the end of "Jersey Boys":

"I don't miss Wisconsin. I'm not from Wisconsin, I'll never move to Wisconsin"

And I'd like to know where in Florida it ever hit 105F---I mean actual temperature, not heat index BS

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

The media isn’t announcing extreme heat alerts everyday. The national weather service is.

Correct. The NWS that is a division of NOAA which is under the commerce department headed by a cabinet secretary. I can just imagine a cabinet meeting: "How can we cram the false narrative of climate change down the public's throats?"

State: We can blame China and India, but then we'd have to admit spending trillions on our own will do nothing, scratch that idea

Transportation: We sell the idea that SUVs are the source of all evil and spend billions subsidizing EVs, even though it won't make a difference
"sure it makes a difference, it enriches our benefactors who will make a fortune off that idea---go with it"

Defense: This is all BS, count us out.
"Oh, no, don't even think about speaking truth to power"

Commerce: We can have our puppet NWS issue "heat warnings", even though this summer is 2.63 degrees cooler than summer 2022
"great idea! Then we can have the puppet media call "weather alert days" and put heat indices rather than actual temperatures on their forecast map. The weak minded lemmings will actual believe it, after all, the bigger the lie, the more will believe it"

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I wouldn't have moved to Florida in the first place. I only came because I knew I'd miss my husband if I didn't.

Would he have missed you?

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

Too hot? Well, it is 5:00 PM now and I just returned from playing 18 holes of golf--walking, not riding in a cart--at about 3:45. Maybe it is "too hot" for folks who let media control their lives. That ain't me. Plenty of water and taking my time--I could play all day. Maybe tomorrow I will.
Ain't goin' back.[/QUOTE]

I was with you all the way until the 'media control' part. I assure you that not one single news clip has ever made me sweat profusely, and my anectodal conclusion remains that this year is a helluva lot hotter and more humid than last year, without the relief of rain there seemed to be last year. And before someone confuses this issue with meteorological facts or fiction, I used the word 'anecdotal' for a reason. For all I know it will snow next summer-but for now-I am talking about the heat, not about the news reports I may or may not have seen about the heat.
And as for walking 18 holes? I play a lot of championship golf and will occasionally walk 9-but walking 18 in this humidity is inviting problems. Great for you if you can do that and not wobble afterward. If anyone ever goes on a desert safari, you should be the first person they call-but the rest of us older adults are best suited to driving the golf car on the course, or staying home.As the Bee Gees have indicated repeatedly, it's all about 'Stayin Alive'

[Brynnie]

I agree with Bitsee. We left Ohio to come to Florida 18 years ago and have lived to TV ever since. I’ve had my fill of these brutal summers and am ready to move back north, where our daughter and grandkids live. Better restaurants up there, and more cultural activities, good bookstores, etc. I don’t like Christmas in Florida, either, and don’t mind snow, now that I don’t have to drive to work in it ☺️. Can always get someone to shovel it.

Originally Posted by Bitsee

Great Post !

We are Snowbirdsagree from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

[Karmanng]

Originally Posted by Bitsee

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

Complain complain It is NO different here in AZ either and in fact I found it to not be so darn CROWDED like you all say in May and Oct/Nov Az is not different with snowbirds either Food here to go out to eat is very overpriced and not great either........Im From ILL originally go back to Wisconsin then I bet its no different after awhile either The WHOLE world has changed...........give it a rest

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I need a reminder what the difference is between a snowflake and a snowbird.

We spend mid-May through mid-October in the Finger Lakes of NY State, and the rest of the year in TV. We realize we are very fortunate to be able to do that, but also realize we won't always be able to do that. I'll be 70 in September, and face it, the clock is ticking.

You're a "Snowbird"... You "fly south for the winter..."

We're still snowflakes. We come and go as time allows.

The boss comes down for longer periods than I, and I fly back and forth...

But... If the stars align properly, in the next 12-18 months, we'll be "Frogs"...

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Correct. The NWS that is a division of NOAA which is under the commerce department headed by a cabinet secretary. I can just imagine a cabinet meeting: "How can we cram the false narrative of climate change down the public's throats?"

State: We can blame China and India, but then we'd have to admit spending trillions on our own will do nothing, scratch that idea

Transportation: We sell the idea that SUVs are the source of all evil and spend billions subsidizing EVs, even though it won't make a difference
"sure it makes a difference, it enriches our benefactors who will make a fortune off that idea---go with it"

Defense: This is all BS, count us out.
"Oh, no, don't even think about speaking truth to power"

Commerce: We can have our puppet NWS issue "heat warnings", even though this summer is 2.63 degrees cooler than summer 2022
"great idea! Then we can have the puppet media call "weather alert days" and put heat indices rather than actual temperatures on their forecast map. The weak minded lemmings will actual believe it, after all, the bigger the lie, the more will believe it"

"...in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation," (Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf)

[Limey]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

It has become too expensive in The Villages for us, they only want to attract very wealthy people now so we would move North.

[LianneMigiano]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc. Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates, I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?!

We're frogs because we're here til we croak. Too cold, too expensive, and way too much here to keep anyone busy - if they choose. I don't even want to visit up north again.

[allsport]

Originally Posted by larbud

Last summer the criminal media wasn’t pushing the climate change agenda quite as hard!🤔🤔😎

Really, that is crazy, I have been here since 07 and this is by far the worst summer since I came. If I could I would leave this pathetic state, one that gets worse every year.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by allsport

Really, that is crazy, I have been here since 07 and this is by far the worst summer since I came. If I could I would leave this pathetic state, one that gets worse every year.

Based on WHAT????? Your own personal gestalt??????

If you'd like to post 17 years of actual temperature data, I'd be happy to look at it.

[LuvNH]

We are preparing to return to NH and family. We have an apartment attached to our children's home and we are ready. We have been here since 2008 and for the most part have had a wonderful time, but age and ill health has become a problem. The Village hospital almost managed to kill my husband, but not quite, they left him handicapped so if we stayed here we we would probably have to move to assisted living and that is not going to happen. $6,000 to $8,000 a month to have someone who does not even know you take care of you in your final years, no way. That money goes to my kids.

We have no regrets, love NH and we live in a beautiful area on the outskirts of a historic city. We have access to superb healthcare and only an hour from the major hospitals in Boston. Real restaurants, Market Basket, good shopping. Easy access to the coast. It is not a difficult decision. I don't think we ever intended to die in TV.

Oh, by the way, no snow shoveling, people do that for you if you pay them.

[Nana2Teddy]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

Yes and No. Being very new here I’m still uncertain, and only time will tell.

[vintageogauge]

Not a fan of Florida summers, both the summer and winter season traffic is getting worse every year from all of the non-Villages homes going up as well as the growth in the south, and am seriously considering moving back north to be with family, less traffic and crowds, and better health care. Not worried about snow, there are plenty of snow removal services up north just as there are year round landscape services down here. I do like the seasons especially fall and still have a lot of family up there, some very young and some very old so lots of things are going to happen over the next few years that will require lots of round trips that I am getting to old to partake in..