[Carla B]

Originally Posted by justjim

We have a great democratic voting system in this country and the system does catch most, if not all, the very small percentage of those that attempt to cheat.

Yes. Result of Associated Press investigation finds 475 potential voter fraud cases in six states:

Far too little vote fraud to tip election to Trump, AP finds | AP News

[Bilyclub]

There will be some more points messages going out from the mods.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by ithos

Does anybody believe that there was only three incidences of voter fraud that occurred in an election where over 11 million votes were cast? And all in one county?

The main point is that Sumter County may have the most honest government in the state.

Two of the Sumter County commissioners have just been charged with perjury. If that's what "the most honest government in the state" then I'd say this is a pretty sadly-run state.

I really hope there are counties that do better.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Carla B

Yes. Result of Associated Press investigation finds 475 potential voter fraud cases in six states:

Far too little vote fraud to tip election to Trump, AP finds | AP News

Yup - out of 25.5 million votes, they found a *potential* (not confirmed) 475 total voter fraud cases. And even if all 475 were switched to the "other" candidate, it still wouldn't have changed the outcome in any of those 6 states.

[Boomer]

ElDiabloJoe,

Huh?

I think you called me an elitist. And, btw, I am not a Progressive either.

I am just one of the endangered species — a moderate.

If you were not so hell-bent on categorizing me, you would be surprised that I agree with a lot of what you said in your paragraph that began with, “You’re wrong.” I am there with you on a lot of those points.

Your categorization of me made the assumption that I disparage the military and the police. I most certainly do not — and I resent the assumption. You could not be more wrong about that..

About my support of the military — I will say also that I sometimes think we need to bring back the draft. Why? Because our country does not seem to be able to grow men like they used to. We have too much undirected testosterone running amok. There are plenty of young women who could use some direction, too. But getting knocked up without having a clue how to parent is the name of the game.

Btw, thank you for not saying January 6 was a good thing. I have a very good friend who votes Republican come hell or high water. But he told me that he sees January 6 the same way I do. . .Of course, we all know there are those who might never do such a thing themselves — but they are still cheering for those tools, those pawns, those puppets. I watched it in real-time — and I cried. Democracy under siege. If ol’ Mitch had not called them back in, Democracy would have died that day. Now it’s in the ICU, but it survived — for now.

Are you sure you won’t take a look at the January issue of The Atlantic? If you are willing to even look at the cover, you will see why I thought it was worth taking the risk of going political in this thread.

Anyway, ElDiabloJoe, you got me so wrong, so very wrong. And — if I were a member of MENSA, I would not tell everybody. That seems elitist.

Boomer

PS: About your PS to me: Huh? I don’t know what you are talking about.

[New Englander]

Colbert is a comedian.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Colbert is a comedian.

It was a pretty funny monologue. Except for the part about going to bed by 8PM. The squares don't turn the music off til 9. The institutional food - I'm thinking he was unintentionally spot-on with that. Anyone for another Culvers?

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by Boomer

ElDiabloJoe,

Huh?

I think you called me an elitist. And, btw, I am not a Progressive either.
]Pretty sure I didn't call anyone a name. That would be a TOS violation.

I am just one of the endangered species — a moderate.
Funny, when compared to communists, even leftist liberals consider themselves "moderates."

If you were not so hell-bent on categorizing me, you would be surprised that I agree with a lot of what you said in your paragraph that began with, “You’re wrong.” I am there with you on a lot of those points.
I am pleased to read this, and perhaps my reply was worded a bit strongly.

Your categorization of me made the assumption that I disparage the military and the police. I most certainly do not — and I resent the assumption. You could not be more wrong about that..
Very glad to hear this. I painted you with a broad brush. Perhaps too broad.

About my support of the military — I will say also that I sometimes think we need to bring back the draft. Why? Because our country does not seem to be able to grow men like they used to. We have too much undirected testosterone running amok. There are plenty of young women who could use some direction, too. But getting knocked up without having a clue how to parent is the name of the game.
100% concur. In fact, I favor an Israeli style mandatory service scheme.

Btw, thank you for not saying January 6 was a good thing. I have a very good friend who votes Republican come hell or high water. But he told me that he sees January 6 the same way I do. . .Of course, we all know there are those who might never do such a thing themselves — but they are still cheering for those tools, those pawns, those puppets. I watched it in real-time — and I cried. Democracy under siege. If ol’ Mitch had not called them back in, Democracy would have died that day. Now it’s in the ICU, but it survived — for now.

Are you sure you won’t take a look at the January issue of The Atlantic? If you are willing to even look at the cover, you will see why I thought it was worth taking the risk of going political in this thread.
Pretty sure they used up their share of "getting a fair shake at being non-objective" a few years back.

Anyway, ElDiabloJoe, you got me so wrong, so very wrong. And — if I were a member of MENSA, I would not tell everybody. That seems elitist.
Just defending myself against those that consider my position "unintellectual, uneducated, and moronic." Tell me, with 100% sincerity, that wasn't what you were inferring, or at least believe/suspect.

Boomer

PS: About your PS to me: Huh? I don’t know what you are talking about.
For this, I will absolutely apologize. I hope you will accept it. I'm sorry. I mixed you up with a user possessing a similar username and by whom I've recently been insulted.

See bolded in above quote for response.

[Shutterbug]

It seems strange that 3 people were discovered voting twice but they can't dig up the dead or fake absentee ballots.

[Byte1]

Let's see, did the STD fiction scare anyone from moving here? Nope, still too many residents.
Do I think this blemish will hurt us? Nope, unfortunately we will still see the multitudes clambering to get the first bid in on a home here. This place is like the SciFi movie "The BLOB" that continues to grow as it absorbs more and more humans.
I still see it as Disneyland for seniors. As long as there is way more good than bad about this place, there will be folks standing in line for a spot in the community..

[Number 10 GI]

[QUOTE=Villages Kahuna;2040878]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed…

I thought this thread was going to describe the more blantant attack on our democracy—the arrest and indictment of the two new Sumter County commissioners elected in 2020. They had campaigned on an anti-Developer platform centered on the reversal of the 25% increase in county property taxes and were elected in a landslide.

Their election reversed control of the county commission from one aligned with anything the Developer proposed to an independent body representing the residents and taxpayers in the county. The Developer had funded huge campaigns for their opponents, but the will of the voters was heard.

The new commissioners have done as they promised and taken the steps necessary to reverse the tax increase, opposed using every means by the Developer. In addition they have voted to resist Developer proposals to build large apartments throughout The Villages.

But now “someone” has filed a trumped-up complaint against the two newly-elected commissioners—they had phone conversations regarding county business but denied the calls to county investigators. They have been indicted for third degree perjury, a felony.

State law says that the Governor can replace local officials who face criminal charges. So watch for the two duly-elected commissioners replacement by the Governor. The Developer is a major campaign contributor to the Governor, so look for the replacement of the two new, duly-elected commissioners with people friendly to the Developer’s proposals. Expect your property taxes to take a major increase. And watch for a reversal of decisions rejecting construction of rental apartments throughout The Villages.

The Sumter County Commission will soon be returned to being lackeys to the Developer, as it has been for many years. This “complaint” against the two new commissioners is the most blantant attack on our local democracy, unimaginable really. In the short time since the election, the Developer has exerted its considerable financial resources to overturn the votes of Sumter County voters. Your vote meant nothing!

That’s the story I thought would be discussed in this thread.

What's that old saying? "If you can't do the time don't do the crime."

[Pballer]

Originally Posted by Shutterbug

It seems strange that 3 people were discovered voting twice but they can't dig up the dead or fake absentee ballots.

I'm sure that the My Pillow buffoon and running hair dye Rudy will be able to turn it up.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by metoo21

Why don't they catch the dead people?

You only vote once if you are dead. They can only charge you for voting twice if you are stupid enough not to help a dead person vote.