[NoMoSno]

...and I have my adblocker on, and can see it just fine.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

According to the PDF provided directly by the Community District Governments as of April 29, 2020, there is no (as in, zero, none, zilch, nada) reference to any requirement of wearing masks, whether in or out of buildings, effective May 4, 2020.

Here's the PDF from the CDD: https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/...20200429001301

There are lots of guidelines and rules about what you can and can't do, on that PDF. Wearing masks is not among them EXCEPT for the notice that masks, gloves, water, hand sanitizer, and equipment will -not- be provided.

I don't get the rec news, I don't get the Daily Sun, and whenever I try to follow a link to the Rec News section of the Daily Sun online I get a black PDF with no text.

Clothing is also required. And I'm pretty sure they mean that you can't just carry it.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by champion6

Turn off your ad blocker and it will work. I had to do this to see it.

Thanks. It worked. No one else has suggested that, and I hadn't even considered it since I can see the Daily Sun online just fine - and other website PDF files - just not that PDF file.

So now I see that page claiming that masks are required for indoor and outdoor activities. It is still a present-tense thing, I don't know that they're going to require swimmers to wear masks covering their noses and mouths while swimming.

It ALSO says on the page before that, that people need to wash their hands every 20 minutes, and wear masks, AND cover their mouth with a tissue when they sneeze or cough.

Apply some logic and ask the logical question here: how can I cover my mouth with a tissue in order to sneeze or cough, while I have a mask covering my face? And how can I wash my hands every 20 minutes while I'm playing golf, and the water coolers are closed down? Answer: I can't. Therefore - these "rules" are flawed, and poorly thought out. Does that mean I shouldn't wear a mask? No. It means someone screwed up when they came up with the rules, and they need to revisit with a more logical approach.

My take on it: if I'm involved in outdoor activities that make it difficult to social distance, then I should wear a mask while engaging in that outdoor activity.

AND

I should carry tissues with me so that if I feel the need to sneeze or cough, I can cover my mouth, without having to wear a mask the entire time, in a situation when I'm not having any trouble social distancing.

AND

if I'm engaged in an activity that has a rest room nearby (such as the horseshoe court next to the Paradise postal station), I should expect to wash my hands every few turns. If I'm not in close proximity to a bathroom, I should bring hand sanitizer and use that instead.

Golfers shouldn't have to wear masks as long as they are maintaining a respectful distance from each other. Swimmers shouldn't be wearing masks, unless they're snorkel masks (which do cover their eyes, nose, and mouth).

[pjwjpb]

Good luck with that! LOL

[fishon]

Please be very careful.
Corona virus is sneaky.
It knows the difference between a grocery store with 200 patrons and a hair salon with 10.

[Spike380]

No clubs before June 1st.

[Spike380]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Just what we seniors need.......instructions and direction clear as mud.😩

I have 2 classes and we were told nothing before June 1st for my card class and art class.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

As I said twice already: when I click on that link, I get a black PDF file with nothing on it.

The link works for me.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by champion6

Turn off your ad blocker and it will work. I had to do this to see it.

I have an ad blocker and I still can open the link.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

................ Swimmers shouldn't be wearing masks, unless they're snorkel masks (which do cover their eyes, nose, and mouth).

Snorkels have the swimmer inhaling and exhaling through a "tube" into the air above the water so there is no difference between wearing a snorkel and not wearing a snorkel. I honestly don't think TPTB think of a snorkel as a mask that they refer to in their social distancing guide lines.

[biker1]

I am not sure what you are reading but the Rec guide from April 30th (that outlines the reopening of the amenities) says to wash your hands frequently, for 20 seconds. I have not seen anything that suggests you wash your hands every 20 minutes.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Thanks. It worked. No one else has suggested that, and I hadn't even considered it since I can see the Daily Sun online just fine - and other website PDF files - just not that PDF file.

So now I see that page claiming that masks are required for indoor and outdoor activities. It is still a present-tense thing, I don't know that they're going to require swimmers to wear masks covering their noses and mouths while swimming.

It ALSO says on the page before that, that people need to wash their hands every 20 minutes, and wear masks, AND cover their mouth with a tissue when they sneeze or cough.

Apply some logic and ask the logical question here: how can I cover my mouth with a tissue in order to sneeze or cough, while I have a mask covering my face? And how can I wash my hands every 20 minutes while I'm playing golf, and the water coolers are closed down? Answer: I can't. Therefore - these "rules" are flawed, and poorly thought out. Does that mean I shouldn't wear a mask? No. It means someone screwed up when they came up with the rules, and they need to revisit with a more logical approach.

My take on it: if I'm involved in outdoor activities that make it difficult to social distance, then I should wear a mask while engaging in that outdoor activity.

AND

I should carry tissues with me so that if I feel the need to sneeze or cough, I can cover my mouth, without having to wear a mask the entire time, in a situation when I'm not having any trouble social distancing.

AND

if I'm engaged in an activity that has a rest room nearby (such as the horseshoe court next to the Paradise postal station), I should expect to wash my hands every few turns. If I'm not in close proximity to a bathroom, I should bring hand sanitizer and use that instead.

Golfers shouldn't have to wear masks as long as they are maintaining a respectful distance from each other. Swimmers shouldn't be wearing masks, unless they're snorkel masks (which do cover their eyes, nose, and mouth).

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by fishon

Please be very careful.
Corona virus is sneaky.
It knows the difference between a grocery store with 200 patrons and a hair salon with 10.

Stop. Think.

In the grocery we aren't up close and personal, not even at check out as we are when someone is cutting our hair. OR as close as a waitress who is handling the plate with our food on it. Did she wash her hands after removing the plates from the table that is six feet from us?

Friends went to Orange Blossom on March 17th, ten of them. The waitress was sniffing. Six in the group became sick. My friends, one was in intensive care for ten days and the other was so sick at home that a friend moved in with her. She became so dehydrated at one point she had to be taken by ambulance to emergency for six hours to be rehydrated. They are younger than us. They are very active.

I wish we knew more about the cases of people who have contracted it here in The Villages. This is the only instance of anyone I know who has contracted the virus.

Does anyone else know anyone personally? Obviously I can't vouch it was Covid-19. I certainly do not fault the waitress or the restaurant. I do believe that it very well have been Covid-19, but I am just grateful our friends are slowly recovering.

We all have been told that it spreads very easily from one human to another. We all know that the older we are the more deadly it is. These two are at least ten years younger than us.

I just heard this from them yesterday. I got a call from them. This is someone we know well and have known for several years. They are friends who have visited our home many times and we have dined with them and we have visited their home. I trust that what they told me is truthful. They live in the older section of The Villages.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Stop. Think.

In the grocery we aren't up close and personal, not even at check out as we are when someone is cutting our hair. OR as close as a waitress who is handling the plate with our food on it. Did she wash her hands after removing the plates from the table that is six feet from us?

Friends went to Orange Blossom on March 17th, ten of them. The waitress was sniffing. Six in the group became sick. My friends, one was in intensive care for ten days and the other was so sick at home that a friend moved in with her. She became so dehydrated at one point she had to be taken by ambulance to emergency for six hours to be rehydrated. They are younger than us. They are very active.

I wish we knew more about the cases of people who have contracted it here in The Villages. This is the only instance of anyone I know who has contracted the virus.

Does anyone else know anyone personally? Obviously I can't vouch it was Covid-19. I certainly do not fault the waitress or the restaurant. I do believe that it very well have been Covid-19, but I am just grateful our friends are slowly recovering.

We all have been told that it spreads very easily from one human to another. We all know that the older we are the more deadly it is. These two are at least ten years younger than us.

I do. The waitress should have called in sick if she had the "sniffles", and the management should have sent her home when they noticed her.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I do. The waitress should have called in sick if she had the "sniffles", and the management should have sent her home when they noticed her.

This was March 17th. I can't remember at what phase of warnings we were at locally or nationally. I know our daughter and granddaughter were visiting us a few days before, and that very shortly after their visit is when the whole thing became evident to be a real crisis. My daughter and granddaughter who are usually very wise indeed, sort of dismissed my concern. I was very nervous when they flew back to New York City and to London early in March.

It took awhile before the warnings and the airline shut downs and the confusion about what to do. I remember that our granddaughter was going to fly to the Keys with a friend about a week after she visited here and decided to cancel it. Does anyone remember exactly when the quarantine began here?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This was March 17th. I can't remember at what phase of warnings we were at locally or nationally.

I think that was just about the time that various restrictions were coming out. However, the virus was a known entity and common sense should have applied