[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Assuming he was aggressive and violated your space, the correct response would have been to ask him if he would like to go around back and throw down with you. &holes rarely will take you up on that offer. Although sometimes they will. In that case make sure you have him go first, then as soon as he turns around to confront you, you sucker punch him in the face and don't stop until he is flat out and unconscious. This is, of course, assuming he is much smaller than you.

This makes you no better than him.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Assuming he was aggressive and violated your space, the correct response would have been to ask him if he would like to go around back and throw down with you. &holes rarely will take you up on that offer. Although sometimes they will. In that case make sure you have him go first, then as soon as he turns around to confront you, you sucker punch him in the face and don't stop until he is flat out and unconscious. This is, of course, assuming he is much smaller than you.

OMG! Thanks!

[Justus]

Chatbrat,

I think you did the right thing in telling the waitress to intercede. I don't think she was wise in identifying you as the complainant. She could have said that unnamed "other patrons" had objected to the stench.

[fred53]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Assuming he was aggressive and violated your space, the correct response would have been to ask him if he would like to go around back and throw down with you. &holes rarely will take you up on that offer. Although sometimes they will. In that case make sure you have him go first, then as soon as he turns around to confront you, you sucker punch him in the face and don't stop until he is flat out and unconscious. This is, of course, assuming he is much smaller than you.

sucker punch someone..yup...brave...then doing it for something they said...that's just a bit reactionary...there's also the fact that you'd go to jail for assault(no, they won't arrest him for a smelly cigar)and then have to pay his medical bills as well as being sued...yup...that's the correct response...

[Kannon451]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Yesterday, my wife & myself were sitting @ the bar at an unnamed country club.

Two men sat down a few cars away. One of the men was chewing on a non smoking cigar that had about 1" of tobacco left-the stench was horrible- As a cigar smoker I could never smoke any cigar that short.

I asked the bar person , to ask the gentleman to kindly get rid of that "stinker"

she did so- and he kinda got in my face & said."next time ask me your self"

I asked the bar person to avoid the confrontation-that I suspected would arise.

M

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

At my age its not smart to exchange compound fractures, can't run fast anymore& when I'm not drinking or seated @ prohibited area, I carry a firearm-

What a worthless, ridiculous reason to start a confrontation. As said by another poster, if he had reeked of body oder or was passing gas, nothing would have said. My guess is there was some degree of satisfaction needed in seeing him remove the cigar. You carry a gun and initiated this, confrontation, interesting.

As far as carrying a concealed gun, I'm not buying that you review your daily itinerary each morning before leaving the house and based on your planned activities and venues then decide to carry or not.....PLEASE.......

[Chatbrat]

I know the rules for ccw, you can carry a firearm into the area of a restaurant where alcohol is served. When I'm in that situation my firearm is locked in my vehicle. I carry it whenever I'm out of my residence.

[Happinow]

I believe there is no smoking inside any restaurant, even at the bar. If the bartender saw that this person had a cigar, she should have either nipped it in the bud herself right then and there or called for a manager to handle the situation. Patrons should not be put to in a situation like this where they have to feel uncomfortable. The rules are the rules with smoking, especially cigars, and someone with authority should have addressed this immediately without a patron asking them to do so.

[Gerald]

I would ask for another place to sit. Waste of time to confront people today.

[ScorpioSquared]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Yesterday, my wife & myself were sitting @ the bar at an unnamed country club.

Two men sat down a few cars away. One of the men was chewing on a non smoking cigar that had about 1" of tobacco left-the stench was horrible- As a cigar smoker I could never smoke any cigar that short.

I asked the bar person , to ask the gentleman to kindly get rid of that "stinker"

she did so- and he kinda got in my face & said."next time ask me your self"

I asked the bar person to avoid the confrontation-that I suspected would arise.

I don't think your approach was so off base. I find it amazing that when possibly being offensive people take the defensive. Did he really need to approach you semi agressively? I find smokers and some are friends can be touchy about being approached for smoking in public areas. I'm a former smoker and today I wish not to breathe the smell or smoke. Please smoke where it's not a shared experience and I'll keep my dog poop off your lawn.

[Chatbrat]

We only eat @ the bar, & there were no more seats available.

[Kannon451]

Originally Posted by ScorpioSquared

I don't think your approach was so off base. I find it amazing that when possibly being offensive people take the defensive. Did he really need to approach you semi agressively? I find smokers and some are friends can be touchy about being approached for smoking in public areas. I'm a former smoker and today I wish not to breathe the smell or smoke. Please smoke where it's not a shared experience and I'll keep my dog poop off your lawn.

D

I find it amazing how defensive dog owners get when taken to task on their dogs pooping in places other than their own yard or the dog parks. I find it offensive to see it and smell it in common public areas EVERY night at the town squares, the mail box areas and....yes my yard. According to dog owners these are the "few". But what are the odds that those few are at my mail area, my front yard and the town squares every time I'm there. Apparently we are all have the same schedules. When I stop sharing your dog poop in public areas, you can talk about not sharing someone's smoke.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Happinow

I believe there is no smoking inside any restaurant, even at the bar. If the bartender saw that this person had a cigar, she should have either nipped it in the bud herself right then and there or called for a manager to handle the situation. Patrons should not be put to in a situation like this where they have to feel uncomfortable. The rules are the rules with smoking, especially cigars, and someone with authority should have addressed this immediately without a patron asking them to do so.

The guy wasn't smoking.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

This makes you no better than him.

I don't smoke or chew.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Assuming he was aggressive and violated your space, the correct response would have been to ask him if he would like to go around back and throw down with you. &holes rarely will take you up on that offer. Although sometimes they will. In that case make sure you have him go first, then as soon as he turns around to confront you, you sucker punch him in the face and don't stop until he is flat out and unconscious. This is, of course, assuming he is much smaller than you.

Yikes! Can you not see the humor in this post? It was a JOKE!!!! For crying out loud, LIGHTEN UP, people!!!! I laughed my butt off when I read it! What a great sense of humor...too bad for anyone who didn't enjoy it the way it was intended.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by fred53

sucker punch someone..yup...brave...then doing it for something they said...that's just a bit reactionary...there's also the fact that you'd go to jail for assault(no, they won't arrest him for a smelly cigar)and then have to pay his medical bills as well as being sued...yup...that's the correct response...

I wouldn't sucker punch someone for what they said. I would only sucker punch someone that was getting ready to hit me. That's just street self defense, not assault.