[Steve & Deanna]

One of the most LEGAL immigrants, Vito Androlini from Corleone, Sicily.....and the guy at the desk couldn't spell Androlini so into the US came Vito Corleone. Just watched Godfather Part II for the umpteenth time yesterday. Now that was controlled immigration.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Rags123

First of all, the official word is that they will be deported. Of course that is based on the assumption they actually turn up at a hearing.

Secondly, and please do not take this personally, but where was everyone when the governors of the border states were yelling for the last year(s) about this. These states were left on their own, and their simple request was....enforce United States Law !

On the subject of deportation, just google and do some research on actual deportations VS court order to do so. One conclusion will be very obvious. What are there so many that have not been put out of the country as ordered?
Total lack of enforcement. Judge slams the gavel says thou shalt be deported. Then Mr./Ms. X goes back to work, scholl or building a bomb!!!!
No fear of being arrested.

This is of course not discussed much....either.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by billethkid

has the compassion taken care of those kids/youngsters born here or here legally in similar or worse conditions here in the USA?

How much of the free stuff being made available for the "illegals" is also available for those LEGALS in need here in the USA?

How many votes could be in that.....not enough obviously.

Lets save the free stuff for the "legals" for another day. That's another post about how all the "legals" are abusing the welfare system and don't want to work. You know-how we all worked hard for where we got and today everyone wants a handout. Please don't confuse and already confusing situation full of innuendo and disinformation!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Lets save the free stuff for the "legals" for another day. That's another post about how all the "legals" are abusing the welfare system and don't want to work. You know-how we all worked hard for where we got and today everyone wants a handout. Please don't confuse and already confusing situation full of innuendo and disinformation!

I asked this earlier but no answer.
Could you explain your posts on this thread in one sentence? Somehow I am not understanding.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Lets save the free stuff for the "legals" for another day. That's another post about how all the "legals" are abusing the welfare system and don't want to work. You know-how we all worked hard for where we got and today everyone wants a handout. Please don't confuse and already confusing situation full of innuendo and disinformation!

What are YOU willing to do for these children? What do YOU see as an answer?

[sunnyatlast]

No need for concern about who will lovingly care for and nurture the children better than the camp squalor they're in now. Their parents will be crossing the borders soon, or are already here illegally with their government-provided lawyers and U.S.-born Anchor Babies, pleading "the parents here can't leave their U.S. Citizen anchor babies here alone, where they have a right to live and get a college education."

That's been the strategy all along, by design of the bleeding hearts who have no use for pesky laws. Get the kids onto U.S. soil, where their parents "are needed to take care of them" and "it would be inhumane to separate parent and child and the child has to stay...so the parent has to stay also".

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

Just out of curiosity, where did you get this quote from?

Z

Originally Posted by CFrance

I sang it in high school. Are you an American citizen? If so, you should know where it comes from. If not, google will answer your question.

CFRANCE: I am still waiting for the answer. I cannot find it anywhere.

Please give me the answer I BEG you.

PS: If anyone knows the answer Please let me know.

Quote below:

Many try to place guilt on those of us who believe in the proper execution of law. It does not work on me for one.

I welcome all humanity, but within the law, not outside it based on political philosophy if that is the driver to NOT execute existing law, nor to address what is obviously the trigger for the current problem.

I feel guilty mostly for not being able to help those who are being required to care for those who came here under false pretenses, not matter how those pretenses were manufactured.

I feel guilty for the inaction of our government as a whole to address the situation and how it will affect us in the future.

I feel guilty for those all over the world being killed and maimed...in Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Israel. I feel guilty for those who go to bed each night with a threat hanging over their head.

I do not feel guilty for wanting my countries laws to be respected, followed and adhered to.

Mr Buggyone, your comment is extremely offensive to anyone who really cares about humanity, because if anyone cares about humanity, that would also include citizens of this country, that would include those suffering as a result of the run on our borders.

These folks were not attacked by us......

No, I feel not one single iota of guilt, but as you did on another thread Mr Buggyone, your attempt at laying guilt at everyones feet without addressing the problem is apparent.

The thread was not and should not be political. It is a concern about what our country stands for. Your response is the political response of the day and goes to solve nothing.

No, I stand tall, proud of my TOLERANCE and will not accept an attempt to use a tactic such as you have in your post.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

CFRANCE: I am still waiting for the answer. I cannot find it anywhere.

Please give me the answer I BEG you.

PS: If anyone knows the answer Please let me know.

Quote below:

Many try to place guilt on those of us who believe in the proper execution of law. It does not work on me for one.

I welcome all humanity, but within the law, not outside it based on political philosophy if that is the driver to NOT execute existing law, nor to address what is obviously the trigger for the current problem.

I feel guilty mostly for not being able to help those who are being required to care for those who came here under false pretenses, not matter how those pretenses were manufactured.

I feel guilty for the inaction of our government as a whole to address the situation and how it will affect us in the future.

I feel guilty for those all over the world being killed and maimed...in Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Israel. I feel guilty for those who go to bed each night with a threat hanging over their head.

I do not feel guilty for wanting my countries laws to be respected, followed and adhered to.

Mr Buggyone, your comment is extremely offensive to anyone who really cares about humanity, because if anyone cares about humanity, that would also include citizens of this country, that would include those suffering as a result of the run on our borders.

These folks were not attacked by us......

No, I feel not one single iota of guilt, but as you did on another thread Mr Buggyone, your attempt at laying guilt at everyones feet without addressing the problem is apparent.

The thread was not and should not be political. It is a concern about what our country stands for. Your response is the political response of the day and goes to solve nothing.

No, I stand tall, proud of my TOLERANCE and will not accept an attempt to use a tactic such as you have in your post.

Z, somebody else answered it. It is a poem by Emma Lazarus that was later put to music (when I sang it in high school) but before that was placed on the base of the Statue of Liberty after a fundraiser was conducted to have it placed there. It has nothing to do with p***tics, but I still cannot believe that if you grew up in the US, you didn't learn about this in American history class.

Plus the way you stated your question, referring to it as "the long-winded one," raised my hackles. The question didn't have to be raised in such a rude manner. I hate rude, and it makes me respond shortly. And if you really googled it, you would have found it. I did.

[DONKEY10]

Yeah a high wall from SanDiego to Texas and from Maine to Vancouver and man it with the army. Who cares how it looks we protecting our borders. You do not have a country without borders.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

What are YOU willing to do for these children? What do YOU see as an answer?

I remember after the Vietnam war that many people sent their children over to the US. Churches sponsored them, found them families/homes, and sent them to school. One of them was a very intelligent lady who later was hired by my husband after she graduated from college, and was a superb employee.

Then there were the lost boys from the Sudan, many of whom were also brought over here by church sponsorship and given homes and education. There will be people willing to sponsor these children and find homes for them.

I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong. I can't even decide what my feeling is on all this. But I am saying that these children need help, and there will be families to step up to help those that are allowed in. Maybe I'm naive, but I do not believe that they are being used as pawns so their parents can enter the country later. As I said in an earlier post, there have been many times down through the years when parents have sent their children off to safety unaccompanied because they feared for them.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

What are YOU willing to do for these children? What do YOU see as an answer?

Pay my taxes, vote and support the current administrations actions. I believe the current administration is currently doing the right thing since I do not feel threatened by what some characterize as an invasion. I know that is not one sentence, but I hope everyone understands my position.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Pay my taxes, vote and support the current administrations actions. I believe the current administration is currently doing the right thing since I do not feel threatened by what some characterize as an invasion. I know that is not one sentence, but I hope everyone understands my position.

I understand your position, and I am glad you have stated it in the face of much opposition.

[VT2TV]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

No need for concern about who will lovingly care for and nurture the children better than the camp squalor they're in now. Their parents will be crossing the borders soon, or are already here illegally with their government-provided lawyers and U.S.-born Anchor Babies, pleading "the parents here can't leave their U.S. Citizen anchor babies here alone, where they have a right to live and get a college education."

That's been the strategy all along, by design of the bleeding hearts who have no use for pesky laws. Get the kids onto U.S. soil, where their parents "are needed to take care of them" and "it would be inhumane to separate parent and child and the child has to stay...so the parent has to stay also".

I know this will sound cynical, but I am willing to bet that very few of these children will ever show up for any hearing. But if they do and if their parents conveniently show up too, I think they all should be sent back to their own countries. This country is currently unable to feed, clothe, educate, and shelter even a portion of our legal citizens now. People here in this country die every day because for whatever reason they cannot care for themselves. If you want to adopt children who need your help, or support people who are living in crime ridden areas, or help to care for people who can't get the medicines to adequately take care of themselves, and a thousand other sad situation--you don't need to bring in ANY ONE else. You can find these same people in this county, this state, this country, If we can't care for your own citizens, you sure can't adequately care for others. There will ALWAYS be sad, horrible situations all over the world. Charity begins at home. You take care of the people already here. When I was in school, we went on visits to homes right in our town, Everyone of us barely got out of the house before we burst into tears because of the situations. So before we try to take care of the rest of the world-which we never will, forgive me if I think there are plenty of horrible, devastating situations involving CHILDREN as well as adults right here, right now. Especially when the people coming here are coming here illegally. Feel free to do research and check it out if you don't believe me. Children here in this country die every day from diseases, starvation, and abuse. What about them? If we spread our resources too thin, no one will get good care. How many people can survive on 1 piece of bread. how many can we really help that will actually be enough to really help, and not just appear to help????

[graciegirl]

I think it is cowardly to send children. I think that no matter how bad the circumstances, most people would brave the journey themselves, man or woman and hope to make a home and send for the child and the family member who was caring for it back home. On the way the child could be hurt or killed or harmed or lost.

Then there is the money and power of the huge drug cartel who could have a hand in this and behind cooercing people to enter our country to establish yet another link in their big business. Or because the parents are addicted. They aren't acting the way parents usually act. They would come themselves. It is just human nature.


You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

[graciegirl]

Here is what Australia requires for you to immigrate to their country.

Move To Australia - Immigration FAQ's