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Old 06-03-2019, 06:01 AM
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Agree. Not a responsibility teachers should take on. Imagine a shooting situation and the police arrive and shout an armed teacher by mistake thinking they might be the shooter. Very bad idea!



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Old 06-03-2019, 06:25 AM
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Teachers today face budget cuts, pensions taken away, Sec of Ed who seems to hate teachers, parents who daily badmouth teachers, unsupportive parents, states who underfund education. And you want them to shield your child? You're nuts. Teachers are leaving the profession in less than five years because they are not supported.
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I agree and support teachers being allowed to carry. Most will not be interested in doing so. The training is Very Extensive. More so than you might imagine. We already know that gun free zones are a joke and a prime target 🎯
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Teachers today face budget cuts, pensions taken away, Sec of Ed who seems to hate teachers, parents who daily badmouth teachers, unsupportive parents, states who underfund education. And you want them to shield your child? You're nuts. Teachers are leaving the profession in less than five years because they are not supported.
Great point.

Please provide the proposed legislation that would require a teacher to shield students or carry a weapon!?

I will check back.


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Well, first, anyone wanting to carry in school most likely has ben around guns all their lives.

Second, it is easy for a coward to pick a safe place to ambush, if schools had armed staff it would not be as safe. Even if no one that a certain school it would not be known, thus making the risk unknown.

Third, carrying or not, no one can prevent an ambush, however an armed good guy can drastically shorten the duration of one.

The dumbest thing ever started was posting signs stating "Gun Free Zone". There are drug laws everywhere, so how can there be a drug problem. You get the idea...

YES, I am in favor of the opportunity for staff to carry and remove the stupid Gun Free Zone signs.
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:08 AM
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My husband and I work for Chicago Public Schools. Children as well as visitors go through metal detectors in the morning with security guards checking bags like at the airport. They also check the bags and anyone returning into the building after a fire drill goes through metal detectors. There are two armed police officers in the buildings and a full security staff. No in school shootings. Why wouldn't schools hire trained police officers and a well trained security staff? I am city wide and have been in hundreds of buildings in Chicago and our police staff do an excellent job as do our security staff. Teachers are in schools to educate children not to carry guns.
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Having worked most of my career on public high school and college campuses, I see great benefit for firearms-trained staff and faculty to carry. Sadly, no place is safe anymore and advertising gun-free zones only invites criminal behavior as a soft target.
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:32 AM
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My husband and I work for Chicago Public Schools. Children as well as visitors go through metal detectors in the morning with security guards checking bags like at the airport. They also check the bags and anyone returning into the building after a fire drill goes through metal detectors. There are two armed police officers in the buildings and a full security staff. No in school shootings. Why wouldn't schools hire trained police officers and a well trained security staff? I am city wide and have been in hundreds of buildings in Chicago and our police staff do an excellent job as do our security staff. Teachers are in schools to educate children not to carry guns.


Very costly...………..Chicago Schools are carrying $8B in debt. City of Chicago is bankrupt.
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:57 AM
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Teachers impart there education onto our students. They receive modest compensation for this. If they feel the need or agree with the reasoning of them having a gun on there person we should support them. We should not strip away there rights to carry arms at our will. In today’s society it is foolish to think anywhere is safe and will be absent of extreme violence.
Metal detectors cannot detect all weapon types. Annually many education facilities have extreme violence incidences. The first line of prevention is knowing defense.
This is a silly example. Would a robber try to hold up a bar where 300 hells angles were having a rest stop on the way to a meet. The same reasoning if a educational facility had a staff of 125. And all of that staff was able to carry a gun. Would the potential shooter go inside sporting a gun, I don’t think so.
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No, absolutely not. Most teachers are very young and if you are a police officer they go through much more training. As the wife of a retired federal agent and a nurse, nothing could make me change my mind. Police officer have an accuracy problem in live shooting incidents. Adrenalin runs through you blood and causes you to shake many instances. Teachers who go through a few weeks of training have no business with guns. Police officers have accidentally discharged their guns twice in Publix in the last few weeks, teachers make no sense. They went to school to teach not shoot people or kids.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:03 AM
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Why not. Our children deserve the same level of protection as anyone else. Why do you think the shooters pick schools. Because it
Is so east to get access with a gun and kill many before they can be stopped. They should have the same level of protection of our government and paid for by our government.
Then put armed guards in the schools. Teachers are not guards. That isn't their purpose. Teachers should be concentrating on teaching. Guards should concentrate on protecting.
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Then put armed guards in the schools. Teachers are not guards. That isn't their purpose. Teachers should be concentrating on teaching. Guards should concentrate on protecting.
So a teacher volunteering to carry his own legal firearm in school after having additional training will make that teacher unable to concentrate on teaching?

Really trying to see the logic of many of these posts.
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:04 AM
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Absolutely No no no no. I am from Newtown -- Sandy Hook. No guns for teachers and no military weapons for anyone else. Change the law!! We are not fighting England anymore. Besides even the police in England do not carry guns.
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:12 AM
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You need to get the 'Gun Free Zone' removed from schools. They are sitting targets for these people that want to do great harm. If it's not known how many armed people are in the school, these evil people will think twice before entering. (A retired teacher)
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:13 AM
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so many posters who have never taught or managed a classroom and who seem to be very "macho" with situations that they will never find them selves in are advocating for arming teachers.

It is also interesting to note that most school districts oppose the new law, and it is they, the school districts who will make the final call on whether it happens in their district.

Florida school districts push back against bill to arm teachers | Fox News

I keep thinking back to the most recent mass shooting. ONE man engaged in a gun fight with 4 armed and trained officers and those officers used all of their ammo before finally taking him down. AFTER 12 DIED

If you translate the same event to a school and a classroom, there seem to be a lot of reasons not to have teachers involved in a gun battle.

I totally understand the sentiment about protecting our children, but common sense seems to be less considered than macho talk among those who will never ever be involved, and the simply "pooh poohing" the ease of being armed, the watered down approval for gun toting takes precedence over any consideration of anything else except arm and shoot.
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