[Mike the mailman]

Yes, protect self and your kids, also expect a large pay raise from school. You might just save the lives of many.

[DMoring]

I'm a gun owner but I'm not smart enough to know the answer to that question. If they do carry guns I think the librarians should also carry and have to use silencers. LOL

[36hoot@gmail.com]

I believe there would be considerable less school shootings if the shooter knew there was a possibility the every teacher he encounters may be armed.

[luperona9]

Originally Posted by DMoring

I'm a gun owner but I'm not smart enough to know the answer to that question. If they do carry guns I think the librarians should also carry and have to use silencers. LOL

Ok pretty funny, but there is No such thing as a silencer.

[luperona9]

Originally Posted by 36hoot@gmail.com

I believe there would be considerable less school shootings if the shooter knew there was a possibility the every teacher he encounters may be armed.

Of course. Very common sense.

[regas56]

Originally Posted by luperona9

So a teacher volunteering to carry his own legal firearm in school after having additional training will make that teacher unable to concentrate on teaching?

Really trying to see the logic of many of these posts.

Agreed... if you are well trained concealed carrying a weapon is as natural as carrying your wallet or cell phone. However if you are afraid of a gun than for heavens sake leave it in your safe..

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I keep thinking back to the most recent mass shooting. ONE man engaged in a gun fight with 4 armed and trained officers and those officers used all of their ammo before finally taking him down. AFTER 12 DIED

The 12 people were shot BEFORE the police got there, what does that tell you? And at this point it's not even known until the autopsy is completed if the shooter took his own life or was killed by a cops fire.
Steve

[regas56]

Originally Posted by allsport

No, absolutely not. Most teachers are very young and if you are a police officer they go through much more training. As the wife of a retired federal agent and a nurse, nothing could make me change my mind. Police officer have an accuracy problem in live shooting incidents. Adrenalin runs through you blood and causes you to shake many instances. Teachers who go through a few weeks of training have no business with guns. Police officers have accidentally discharged their guns twice in Publix in the last few weeks, teachers make no sense. They went to school to teach not shoot people or kids.

What you say may be true BUT... There are only two things that will stop a madman with a gun...he runs out of bullets OR another gun. being unarmed makes us a victim being armed at least you have a chance..

[regas56]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

Once you pull that trigger, whether right or wrong,be prepared for a law suit. Plan on spending a minimum of $100,000, or losing everything you've worked for. There is insurance that covers that kind of thing, but probably very expensive. I wonder how many people in TV actually have it? Speak up.

Actually you can get the insurance through the NRA and it's quite inexpensive.. If a person needs to pull the trigger to save their or a loved ones life me thinks a lawsuit is the least of their problem at the time..

[Danz654]

I agree trained teacher should allowed to have a gun. Key word trained. Plus there has to be a safe and secure place for the firearm at all times

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

The 12 people were shot BEFORE the police got there, what does that tell you? And at this point it's not even known until the autopsy is completed if the shooter took his own life or was killed by a cops fire.
Steve

"Four officers entered the building after the call of shots fired was made to police shortly after 4 p.m., Friday. Police Chief Jim Cervera said that the officers arrived within minutes after the first call to dispatch, and were able to find the suspect after hearing gunfire. They then engaged in a long-term gun battle with the suspect, the chief said."

Police engaged in ‘long-term gun battle’ during Virginia Beach fatal mass shooting | WTKR.com

So, its not clear how many were killed and when, nor how much was related to getting into a gun battle.

Make no mistake....I am for security and perhaps this is an answer.

My entire point was that on this forum we are talking MACHO television stuff as if that were the real world, and the discussion is among those who can easily speak so mach as they will never
be in the situation and oh man is that easy to talk about.

How many lives would have been saved if a) the officers came early or b) came later or c) never faced gunfire from officers which was returned

I dont know....you dont know....hopefully once the investigation is over, we all know.

Just jumping to gunfight mode seems wrong to me, especially when young children are involved. My wife taught elementary school for over 30 years, albeit in a different time, but I would suggest resigning if she worked for a school district allowed this to occur.

If you have been in combat, you know that your reaction is much much different than you imagined it would be. Having a teacher to confront an armed person, hell bent on killing everyone including himself and without knowledge of his weaponary is a scary thought, to me anyway

[Velvet]

The depressed and probably bullied student who is bent upon killing but knows they will be shot, will go to school with a suicide vest, you can bet on it.
I still think the way to reduce school shootings is to teach empathy, social skills, and conflict resolution. Those skills work everywhere and last a lifetime.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Velvet

The depressed and probably bullied student who is bent upon killing but knows they will be shot, will go to school with a suicide vest, you can bet on it.
I still think the way to reduce school shootings is to teach empathy, social skills, and conflict resolution. Those skills work everywhere and last a lifetime.

Boy, hate to be pessimistic but in this world there is a fat chance of anyone caring about empathy, etc.

An elementary student seeing his teacher gunned down will leave very serious emotional scars, AND by the way this nation has simply pushed aside the survivors of other school shooting, little in the way of nation empathy should be expected.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Velvet

The depressed and probably bullied student who is bent upon killing but knows they will be shot, will go to school with a suicide vest, you can bet on it.
I still think the way to reduce school shootings is to teach empathy, social skills, and conflict resolution.

Those skills work everywhere and last a lifetime.

I totally agree that would be ideal, but unfortunately there will still be those that will always prefer hate, prejudice, animosity, confrontation and anger towards those who are different (that "difference" taking many forms)...or which they don't share viewpoints/opinions.

One thing is for sure though, teaching those things you mentioned at an early age and having a 'zero-tolerance' toward bullying and physical aggressiveness...would be an excellent start.

[Velvet]

It is possible to teach empathy, especially if you start at a young age and also resilience. Dr. Seligman has started to work on resilience training before deployment to reduce PTSD. It is our amygdala, our reptilian brain, that reacts in a primitive mode but we can calm it and over ride it.
Oh, and I don’t believe in giving up. I would not have become an educator if I though people were incapable of learning and change.