[Sandtrap328]

No one has answered the question originally asked.

Exactly what are in the details of the action signed by the President AND what does it exclude the affected immigrants from doing or obtaining?

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

No one has answered the question originally asked.

Exactly what are in the details of the action signed by the President AND what does it exclude the affected immigrants from doing or obtaining?

Even if I knew the details it wouldn't matter 'cause things change very rapidly with this administration and what I told you today could be different tomorrow - "if you like your doctor you can keep him".

[Sandtrap328]

Some of the details were allowing around 4 million immigrants to get legal jobs and thus would contribute by paying taxes. They will not get the right to vote.

Some states allow illegal immigrants to get driver licenses. Good! I would rather know they are licensed and insured when driving.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

Some of the details were allowing around 4 million immigrants to get legal jobs and thus would contribute by paying taxes. They will not get the right to vote.

Some states allow illegal immigrants to get driver licenses. Good! I would rather know they are licensed and insured when driving.

I guess we will just have to wait until the bill is signed/passed to get the details of what is in it or not!

As far as giving drivers licenses I suppose there are some positives, I don't know and don't need to know them. I feel every concession made, what ever the reasoning, is just another reason to incent them to no legalize their position in the USA.

Maybe if more requirements were a part of the granting of the benefits they are accorded maybe some would entertain becoming citizens instead of wards of the system.

There simply needs to be firm criteria to allow their living in our country just like there are rules for all other countries residents who either visit us temporarily or who undertake the long process of becoming a citizen.

There is no acceptable reasoning why immigrants from the the border to the south of us is just short of wide open and out of control....NONE.
And why is it that existing laws are not being enforced and why is that acceptable to so many Americans?

How about we enforce the existing laws first. SHUT DOWN the borders to illegal entry.
Then have a discussion with the American citizens about what to do with those already in our country. Now why is that so logical and reasonable and yet so unacceptable to those who supposedly represent us and thos who support them?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by gomoho

My compassion goes to my daughter and her Jamaican husband that have spent thousands of dollars to get him here legally and have been working on this for well over a year. If they could have somehow brought him in illegally they would be living happily ever after cause once you are here and married it is much easier. Have taught her to play by the rules and she is learning how it can bite you in the arse. So no I don't have much compassion for the line jumpers.

As I said, I had the same issue with my Filipina wife. It took a tremendous amount of money, time and effort to get her here.

One of the problems is the marriage for conveniences that go on in some of these third world countries. An American goes to a foreign country and gets paid to marry one of their citizen so that he or she can bring their "spouse" here. Once here, they get divorced. It used to happen a lot and I can certainly understand the government having to crack down on it.

My wife now has her "permanent" (meaning ten year) resident status. Her first "conditional" permanent resident status had to be renewed after two years at the cost of about $600. Her current "permanent" status has to be renewed after ten years at another absurd amount of money if she doesn't get her citizenship. We have been married almost four years now.

Certainly, if this were some kind of sham marriage it would have ended by now. Why not just give her citizenship and get another case off of Immigration's workload and let them focus on real problems instead of harassing the people doing the legal way?

The whole system, like many of the things that government does is a mess.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

No one has answered the question originally asked.

Exactly what are in the details of the action signed by the President AND what does it exclude the affected immigrants from doing or obtaining?

Did you miss the answer in post # 17 or did you simply not agree with it and disregard it?


There is no/are no executive order[s] on immigration reform!

Watchdog: Executive-order ploy ‘criminal conspiracy’!

It Is Completely Irrelevant That Obama Never Signed An Executive Order On Immigration - Conn Carroll

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

Did you miss the answer in post # 17 or did you simply not agree with it and disregard it?


There is no/are no executive order[s] on immigration reform!

Watchdog: Executive-order ploy ‘criminal conspiracy’!

It Is Completely Irrelevant That Obama Never Signed An Executive Order On Immigration - Conn Carroll

I said "action signed by the President".