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Old 06-30-2013, 12:23 PM
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It is a good idea to have Community Watch's number in your phone. I do and have called to report a spouting fire hydrant once that was broken.

When you followed suspicious persons, did you do it on foot or in your car? Did you ever confront them and ask what they are doing there? Were any of those suspicious people arrested?
We did not have "community watch" the police asked us to be their eyes and ears.

We followed in our vehicle 'cause we couldn't keep up on foot. Yes I confronted several drug dealers on my corner and told them to "get the hell off my block" and yes they ultimately were arrested. I know there was a level of risk involved, but I was determined to get our block cleaned up and put these guys out of business. We can't as a society continue to "mind our own business and look the other way" 'cause the bad guys will end up winning in the end.
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Zimmerman had a history of calling 911 to report "suspicious" activity. The fact that he followed Martin after being told to step aside is a clear sign of aggression.

Yes, but many of his calls were because Mr. Zimmerman's neighbors called him to report suspicious activity and, as he was head of Neighborhood Watch, he would then call the non-emergency number. He was asked if he was following Mr. Martin and he responded yes. The dispatcher then said, 'We don't need for you to do that.' Mr. Zimmerman then responds, 'O.K.' He denies he continued to follow Mr. Martin but was out of his car to locate an address to give to the dispatcher. The jury will decide on the evidence presented.
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Zimmerman had a history of calling 911 to report "suspicious" activity. The fact that he followed Martin after being told to step aside is a clear sign of aggression.
I disagree that following a suspicious person is a "clear sign of aggression", but for the sake of discussion, let's say it was. Does that level of "aggression" give the other person a right to pummel him? Does Zimmerman forfeit his right to self defense because of the "aggressive" act of following someone?
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:10 PM
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I believe that GZ's lawyer said he called 6x in 5 mos.
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:56 PM
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...But then again if he (Zimmerman) was up north he would have been smart enough to not follow and stay in his car to start with...
Why should he have to stay in his car? He lived there. He paid rent there. His property was located there. If anybody, it was Trayvon who should of been the one treading lightly as a guest in his father's place. It's obvious by the company Trayvon kept, witness #8, that he had no respect for others and their property. One of the times he was suspended from school was for carrying burglar tools.


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I disagree that following a suspicious person is a "clear sign of aggression", but for the sake of discussion, let's say it was. Does that level of "aggression" give the other person a right to pummel him? Does Zimmerman forfeit his right to self defense because of the "aggressive" act of following someone?
I didnt say his right of self defense was compromised. Where did you see that on my post? And it has already been established that he wasn't "pummeled ". If I was a teenaged kid and was being followed by a creepy guy, which his friend says Martin told her, I'd be scared and would consider Zimmerman a threat.
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Why should he have to stay in his car? He lived there. He paid rent there. His property was located there. If anybody, it was Trayvon who should of been the one treading lightly as a guest in his father's place. It's obvious by the company Trayvon kept, witness #8, that he had no respect for others and their property. One of the times he was suspended from school was for carrying burglar tools.


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Let's not forget he assaulted a bus driver. His tweets and texts are very revealing. His twitter name "no_limit_nigga" (his words, not mine) says a lot, as do the photos with the gold grill on his teeth. I'm sure none of this will come out at trial, but it's all there in the discovery.
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Why should he have to stay in his car? He lived there. He paid rent there. His property was located there. If anybody, it was Trayvon who should of been the one treading lightly as a guest in his father's place. It's obvious by the company Trayvon kept, witness #8, that he had no respect for others and their property. One of the times he was suspended from school was for carrying burglar tools.


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Along with the burglars' tools his back pack contained several pieces of women's jewelry. Upon being questioned Martin responded he was holding the jewelry for someone else. Yeah, right! Unfortunately the matter was dropped. It seems he was about as truthful as his girlfriend Rachel "Diamond" Jeantel.
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I didnt say his right of self defense was compromised. Where did you see that on my post? And it has already been established that he wasn't "pummeled ". If I was a teenaged kid and was being followed by a creepy guy, which his friend says Martin told her, I'd be scared and would consider Zimmerman a threat.
So, what is your point about saying it was an "act of aggression"? If you claim that he still had a right to self defense, that's exactly what he did.

Where has it been established that he was not being pummeled? The eye witness claims it was a "ground and pound" attack. That, to me, is a more aggressive description of an attack than "pummeled".
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Will George Zimmerman's three arrests be admitted in this case, and how was someone who had an assault of an officer charge allowed to carry a 9mm gun?


George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
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I am curious don't have an opinion on guilt yet, but...if Travon was a blue eyed blonde the police would have a better investigation. The fact that the police never looked at his cell phone calls is troubling.
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Will George Zimmerman's three arrests be admitted in this case, and how was someone who had an assault of an officer charge allowed to carry a 9mm gun?


George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
I hold to my original assessment! Both ere macho and filled with testosterone, with one key separator. George Z had the gun. I still do not see murder, but do see manslaughter.
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Will George Zimmerman's three arrests be admitted in this case, and how was someone who had an assault of an officer charge allowed to carry a 9mm gun?


George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
They were already discussed.
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If my head were pounded on the pavement, I would expect to have some visible injuries, perhaps a concussion. The physician's assistant, who treated George Zimmerman the day after the beating, testified yesterday that the only visible injury was a one centimeter gash that did not require stitches. He may have had a broken nose, but this was never established since he refused to go to the emergency room the night of the incident. Also, the swelling around the nose had subsided considerably by the next day.

After the beating you describe, where were the injuries?

If I'm nit mistaken, the are photographs showing a cut and bleeding from the back of his head.
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Will George Zimmerman's three arrests be admitted in this case, and how was someone who had an assault of an officer charge allowed to carry a 9mm gun?


George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
If you read the note in this article, they retracted that statement. Zimmerman was arrested once and three charges came from that arrest. All of the charges were dropped. Being arrested doesn't mean you're guilty of anything.
I'm sure that an arrest with dropped charges is not admissible. It would also not prevent him from getting permit to carry.
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