Originally Posted by Xavier

Yes I am aware that Glenn Beck is coming to The Villages and I'm embarassed that there will be more than one person there to see him. It's my own fault that I feel this way - I've been really building up The Villages to my friends and this is a real setback. To be followed up with Palin makes it even worse. It's a sad, sad day in Mudville.

Thank you, could not have said it better myself........By the way, I see that Beck has a 100 year plan, that should play well to a community of retirees...
Bogey

Originally Posted by bogey

Thank you, could not have said it better myself........By the way, I see that Beck has a 100 year plan, that should play well to a community of retirees...
Bogey

What is it that you dont agree with Beck on ?

Would that not be a better post than sarcasm ? This is supposed to be an opinion forum !!

Originally Posted by Xavier

Yes I am aware that Glenn Beck is coming to The Villages and I'm embarrassed that there will be more than one person there to see him. It's my own fault that I feel this way - I've been really building up The Villages to my friends and this is a real setback. To be followed up with Palin makes it even worse. It's a sad, sad day in Mudville.

2008 Sumter County Presidential Vote

From and earlier post by yours truly:

In the 2008 Sumter County presidential election where The Villages makes up a major portion of the electorate, it is interesting to note the result was overwhelmingly (63.01%) for McCain. Obama received only 36.04% of the vote. 82% of eligible voters went to the polls.

30,866 Sumter residents voted for McCain
17,655 voted for Obama

Perhaps you would be less embarrassed if you steered your friends to Miami, Detroit or some other urban area where the like minded can get "free" money and more public handouts through wealth redistribution while giving group hugs in support of each other and ACORN. Perhaps, in order to bridle your exposure to embarrassment, you should have researched the political trending of Villages voters before you settled in a largely conservative community....especially if it makes you so judgemental and uncomfortable regarding your neighbors. We did.

Palin, Beck, Huckabee appearing within days of each other to the pleasure of thousands of Villagers....priceless.

In your opinion it may be a "sad, sad day in Mudville" but once again....it's a great day in the Villages for so many.

I do find it surprising that the community most affected (financially speaking) from the fallout of the banking deregulation voted so overwhelmingly for John McCain. McCain, for reasons I have not yet been able to fathom, opposed reregulating banks. In other words, he felt it was ok to allow more AIG cases. Since, when you're retired, you're more dependent an your pensions, 401ks, etc - I would have expected more of a backlash against McCain's policies in that regards.

At least, if you're younger, you have time for your retirement plans to recuperate. If you're already retired, you basically lost all those gains with little chance of getting them back.

Good post, Cabo.

With what's going on in our country and our financial system I'm supposed to be angry about What John McCain was or was not supporting? I think it is far to late to blame anything but the present Administration for the woes of our Country. Obama and company have done nothing to shore up any business or any job, outside of government employees. I have a feeling you need to step outside of your prejudices and examine what is really going on in the deconstruction of our once great and free nation and when and If you do finally come to terms with it you will, hopefully, see the honesty and wisdom of a free American like Glenn Beck. Since Glenn Beck can't really be meaningfully debunked because realistically how do you debunk the truth, his opponents are reduced to attacking him personally; straight from the "liberal socialist handbook".

could be affected in any manner by ANY dignitary who visits it?

About as meaningful as stating TV would be a better place if visited by _ _ _ _
(fill in the blank).
To each their own.

btk

Originally Posted by RichieLion

With what's going on in our country and our financial system I'm supposed to be angry about What John McCain was or was not supporting? I think it is far to late to blame anything but the present Administration for the woes of our Country. Obama and company have done nothing to shore up any business or any job, outside of government employees. I have a feeling you need to step outside of your prejudices and examine what is really going on in the deconstruction of our once great and free nation and when and If you do finally come to terms with it you will, hopefully, see the honesty and wisdom of a free American like Glenn Beck. Since Glenn Beck can't really be meaningfully debunked because realistically how do you debunk the truth, his opponents are reduced to attacking him personally; straight from the "liberal socialist handbook".

Ummm.. Two words. General Motors.

While I didn't believe ALL of the screaming about the "ripple effect" of GM going out of business, the fact is that there would be 6 figures worth of people unemployed in an instant and nobody-knows-how-many more rippling from it. This was also true of (although in a lesser degree) Chrysler - though I don't know if they'll make it to their predicted "turnaround time" when they start putting better product out on the street.

And as far as "government jobs" go, well, there's plenty to argue there - especially since it was government jobs created in a Republican administration that led to the best paying contract I ever had.. But locally there's also the story of how the stimulus package is allowing a contractor up here to hire more people to finish a big road project (connecting the Everett Turnpike, US-3, with the Manchest-Boston Regional Airport) TWO YEARS EARLY. Do you consider those "government jobs"?

Yes, we all know that recovery.gov has become the butt of a lot of jokes because of people filing their paperwork poorly (not reporting the correct or even an EXISTING congressional district).

To me, the real test of the administration is going to happen when the recovery starts to really take hold - like when employment starts REALLY growing - and the normal business cycle will do this.

The question will be - how will the administration react to increasing revenue? I *suspect* they'll use it as an excuse to spend even more, as opposed to paying off the bills. But maybe - JUST MAYBE - like when Clinton had an uncooperative Congress - we can get to running a surplus again with some fiscal restraint. I'm not holding my breath, but one can hope, eh?

Originally Posted by djplong

Ummm.. Two words. General Motors.

While I didn't believe ALL of the screaming about the "ripple effect" of GM going out of business, the fact is that there would be 6 figures worth of people unemployed in an instant and nobody-knows-how-many more rippling from it. This was also true of (although in a lesser degree) Chrysler - though I don't know if they'll make it to their predicted "turnaround time" when they start putting better product out on the street.

And as far as "government jobs" go, well, there's plenty to argue there - especially since it was government jobs created in a Republican administration that led to the best paying contract I ever had.. But locally there's also the story of how the stimulus package is allowing a contractor up here to hire more people to finish a big road project (connecting the Everett Turnpike, US-3, with the Manchest-Boston Regional Airport) TWO YEARS EARLY. Do you consider those "government jobs"?

Yes, we all know that recovery.gov has become the butt of a lot of jokes because of people filing their paperwork poorly (not reporting the correct or even an EXISTING congressional district).

To me, the real test of the administration is going to happen when the recovery starts to really take hold - like when employment starts REALLY growing - and the normal business cycle will do this.

The question will be - how will the administration react to increasing revenue? I *suspect* they'll use it as an excuse to spend even more, as opposed to paying off the bills. But maybe - JUST MAYBE - like when Clinton had an uncooperative Congress - we can get to running a surplus again with some fiscal restraint. I'm not holding my breath, but one can hope, eh?

How about if they (GM) were simply ALLOWED to go into bankruptcy ?

Originally Posted by Bucco

How about if they (GM) were simply ALLOWED to go into bankruptcy ?

Then I believe there is a good percentage chance that you would be screaming about how Obama doesn't care about the biggest manufacturer in the country, let jobs go away, therefore proving he's anti-business.

Originally Posted by djplong

Then I believe there is a good percentage chance that you would be screaming about how Obama doesn't care about the biggest manufacturer in the country, let jobs go away, therefore proving he's anti-business.

This thread has sort of been hijacked as it was supposed to be about Beck, however this subject (GM) was discussed in great detail.

While your defense of this President is admirable, I suppose, please dont assume anything about how I would feel.

The GM thing is history as will be many other issues while this congress and President spend and act as enablers and there is nothing we can do about it.