Originally Posted by Hancle704

In case you didn't see it on network news or CNN or MSNBC

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2010...-zero-part-ii/

INCREDIBLE!!!! This travesty cannot happen--not in my America!!!

dklassen: No, the Catholic Church has much smaller scale racketeering going on to protect their child rapists. They gave up their killing a few hundred years ago. Since Christianity got a 900 year or so head start on Islam, perhaps it'll just take another 900 years before Islam is 'down' to 'only' raping kids.

Yes, this is a REAL hot button with me. Just because Christians aren't flying planes into buildings - oh, wait, one did last year (though it was a small plane) doesn't give them a pass.

Make no mistake - it's not Christianity or Islam that I have a problem with - it is the organized heirarchies that whip their troops up into a frenzy.

Originally Posted by Annabelle

As a practicing Catholic, I find your comments completely illogical.

20 radical Muslims committed the worst act of terror on American soil. Yet, no Muslim I have ever known would even THINK of such a thing.

It is estimated now that anywhere between 2% and 5% of all Catholic priests have sexually molested children. None that I dealt with in my life are among that crowd.

If you condemn all Islam for the actions of a few SELF DESCRIBED RADICALS who even want to wipe out members of different sects of their own faith, then one wonders why the same standard doesn't apply to Christians.

I mean, it's not like Christians would march in the street and throw firebombs or kill people in markets. Oh - wait - I forgot about Northern Ireland.

Originally Posted by djplong

20 radical Muslims committed the worst act of terror on American soil. Yet, no Muslim I have ever known would even THINK of such a thing.

It is estimated now that anywhere between 2% and 5% of all Catholic priests have sexually molested children. None that I dealt with in my life are among that crowd.

If you condemn all Islam for the actions of a few SELF DESCRIBED RADICALS who even want to wipe out members of different sects of their own faith, then one wonders why the same standard doesn't apply to Christians.

I mean, it's not like Christians would march in the street and throw firebombs or kill people in markets. Oh - wait - I forgot about Northern Ireland.

You mix Catholics and Christians as one in your anti religion rants and they are not exactly the same thing.

You may as well be correct in those you condemn !!

I actually find fault with anyone, yourself included, that would be so self indulged to condemn somebody's faith.

The referrals to Muslims in simply a reaction to the news stories heard every single day and the violence reports, NOT a condemnation of the religion. I might also suggest that you do some reading on the Muslim faith or at least sects, thereof, that DO IN FACT preach jihad....fact is they refer to it as DEFENSIVE JIHAD since the belief is that any non muslim in the mideast is an invader and thus must be destroyed...they also do not and will never recognize Israel.

All muslims are not bad for sure and did not read anyone say or imply that !

Also keep in mind how many hundreds of years that so-called Christians had a 'jihad' out for Muslims.

And, yes, I know well that there's adifference between Catholic and Christian - since I was raised a Catholic. There are Christians out there who don't consider Catholics to be Christian, though Catholics (for the most part) consider themselves Christian.

What does any of that have to do with the insensitivity of building the mosque near ground zero?

Originally Posted by djplong

Also keep in mind how many hundreds of years that so-called Christians had a 'jihad' out for Muslims.

And, yes, I know well that there's adifference between Catholic and Christian - since I was raised a Catholic. There are Christians out there who don't consider Catholics to be Christian, though Catholics (for the most part) consider themselves Christian.

I just dont understand how Catholics, or christians became the subject of this thread. If you read YOU are the one who brought them up and cant let go of that.

If your point was that there are bad in every religion, fine but the constant harrangue on a thread which originally had to do with a religious building being structred at the site of an attack on our country by folks who were doing so, whether the majority or not, in the name of their religion and that structure being built there being a structure OF that religion.

How does any of that relate to your comments on Catholics, not Methodists, not Mormons...just Catholics ?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pa...surprised.html

Originally Posted by islandgal

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pa...surprised.html

Thank-you for posting the link. That was the video that inspired me to start this thread but I was a little gun shy to post it myself.

Originally Posted by Pats2010

Thank-you for posting the link. That was the video that inspired me to start this thread but I was a little gun shy to post it myself.

Isn't it sad to be "gun shy" about posting an opinion or facts out of fear of offending someone associated with terrorism. Not a reflection on you by any stretch. Just a reflection on how we have all allowed ourselves to be conditioned to accept the unacceptable, call wrong right and twist lies into half truths all in the name of not being offensive.

Thank you islandgal. I like you more and more everyday.

Originally Posted by dklassen

Last time I checked I haven't heard of any Catholics or Christians flying airplanes into buildings, beheading people, threatening to wipe out Israel, strapping bombs to their chests or driving cars filled with explosives into crowed civilian areas, etc, etc, etc. All the while certain "communities" in the US remain strangely silent... unless they want to build a mosque.

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Originally Posted by Lou Card

I don't appreciate the degradation of Christians this way. We are responsible for just as many killings as Muslims and we should get the credit for it. We may never be matched for our killing of women and children at Hiroshima Japan. Don't sit there and take away our wonderful killing accomplishments. Lots of Christians were involved in the annihilation of 6 Million Jews in Europe. 6 million, lets see the Muslims beat that. Know your history before you condemn us Christians for falling short in the Killing game.

You are twisting history to satisfy your twisted opinions.

Originally Posted by cashman

You are twisting history to satisfy your twisted opinions.

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That's right Lou Card. Good for you. As you are keeping score, make sure you give credit to the appropriate teams - good against evil.

Originally Posted by Lou Card

I believe both things I stated really happened. I also believe that in the short history of the United States that we are the most prolific killers in the world. I am not here to defend all the killings, just to demand our right to say we have killed more humans in the last several hundred years than anyone else. Go Christians. Were number one.

If that is your attempt at humor, you have failed miserably. And on behalf of all my ancestors who have bravely died defending this great country.