...that there has been no talk, here at political, about the mosque at ground zero. I personally think it is an atrocity.

Originally Posted by Pats2010

...that there has been no talk, here at political, about the mosque at ground zero. I personally think it is an atrocity.

I think that we are being overwhelmed with the number of outrageous attacks on our freedoms and liberties as I questioned in another thread. I agree it's an atrocity and to be expected, if you understand their motives. The muslim religion, along with some others believe that to show victory over your enemies, you must destroy what is sacred to them and replace it with a symbol of your beliefs, in this case, a mosque. There is great symbolism in getting a mosque built at that site.

Originally Posted by macro

I think that we are being overwhelmed with the number of outrageous attacks on our freedoms and liberties as I questioned in another thread. I agree it's an atrocity and to be expected, if you understand their motives. The muslim religion, along with some others believe that to show victory over your enemies, you must destroy what is sacred to them and replace it with a symbol of your beliefs, in this case, a mosque. There is great symbolism in getting a mosque built at that site.

And do you think BH is involved in any way?

Funny. The Muslims I knew and worked with in Boston didn't share those views. I suppose all Catholics support child rape because a few priests did it. I suppose all Christians advocate bombing any building with a woman's clinic in it because a few fundys have done it. I suppose all politicians are gay because of one Senator at the Minneapolis airport.

Originally Posted by cashman

And do you think BH is involved in any way?

possibly as an enabler???? Never directly.

Originally Posted by djplong

Funny. The Muslims I knew and worked with in Boston didn't share those views. I suppose all Catholics support child rape because a few priests did it. I suppose all Christians advocate bombing any building with a woman's clinic in it because a few fundys have done it. I suppose all politicians are gay because of one Senator at the Minneapolis airport.

I suppose you took it the way you did because I used the word 'religion'. Let me re-phrase somewhat. It was common practice among islaamic societies AND MANY OTHERS to remove things important or sacred to their enemies and to replace them with their own, to drive home the point of their victory. If you believe they want to build the mosque to honor the innocent people killed there, you are sadly mistaken. The point of the mosque is to celebrate the success of those who flew the planes into the WTC buildings. Even though they can't yet say that.

Originally Posted by macro

I suppose you took it the way you did because I used the word 'religion'. Let me re-phrase somewhat. It was common practice among islaamic societies AND MANY OTHERS to remove things important or sacred to their enemies and to replace them with their own, to drive home the point of their victory. If you believe they want to build the mosque to honor the innocent people killed there, you are sadly mistaken. The point of the mosque is to celebrate the success of those who flew the planes into the WTC buildings. Even though they can't yet say that.

Okay, let me see if I get this right. CBS refused to air a commercial by the Republican opponents of the construction of an Islamic mosque and community center on Ground Zero because the commercial showed actually footage of the Islamic jihadist flying into the twin towers. It might be offensive to viewers.

But it isn't offensive to allow believers in Islam who declared war against us to build a religious symbol reflecting the beliefs of the muslims on the very sight. It would be easier for me to understand quantum physics than to understand this.

I mean really folks, not everyone in the Third Reich was bad. They weren't all Nazis and anyway not all Nazis were bad. Not every person in the German Army believed in the things Hitler was doing. Let's build a monument to the Third Reich in the middle of Auschwitz.

In the words of human-rights group Stop Islamicization of America. executive director Pamela Geller:

"What could be more insulting and humiliating than a monster mosque in the shadow of the World Trade Center buildings that were brought down by an Islamic jihad attack? Any decent American, Muslim or otherwise, wouldn't dream of such an insult. It's a stab in the eye of America."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz0tc5v7Uof

Watch the commercial here.

http://politifi.com/news/Death-to-th...ir-919637.html

Have you heard about this one? It's just a learning center, right?


"MLEETA: As construction workers put the finishing touches on the doorframe in the lobby of this extravagant complex, a familiar voice can be heard booming from within. A child sits on his father’s lap among a row of chairs, a couple in front in the next row, all watching a large screen on the far wall. There, Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah is issuing his now famous riposte: 'If you hit our airports, we will hit your airports, if you hit our infrastructure, we will hit your infrastructure.'

"Inaugurated on May 25 to mark the 10th anniversary of Israel’s withdrawal from most of its south Lebanon 'occupation zone' in 2000, this multimillion-dollar 'resistance tourist center' in the hills of south Lebanon represents perhaps the first museum ever built to celebrate the victories of a war still ongoing.

"With this complex, in the small mountain town of Mleeta in the area Hizbullah first launched their campaign against Israeli bases, the group shows how the Lebanese Resistance drove Israeli forces from the south.

“ 'This is the real story, the one people come here to see,' says the tour guide Abou Hassan, as he shows the group a room filled with war booty from the 2006 conflict. The first wall features a chart with the names of every division in the Israeli Army from President Shimon Peres down to the lowest troops.


“ 'We’ve mapped every soldier out to show them we are watching and that we are ready for them,' warns Abou Hassan."



Read more here:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article....#axzz0telNF4ot

Last time I checked I haven't heard of any Catholics or Christians flying airplanes into buildings, beheading people, threatening to wipe out Israel, strapping bombs to their chests or driving cars filled with explosives into crowed civilian areas, etc, etc, etc. All the while certain "communities" in the US remain strangely silent... unless they want to build a mosque.

stated "...I fear we have awakened the paper tiger...".

That was then.

Now the tiger has not only gone back to sleep, but to paper again and de-clawed and de-toothed to become a laughable (to our enemies and adversaries) permissive pacifist society with linguine spined special interest minority (not race) group, let's not offend anybody leadership....

WHILE THE MAJORITY JUST SITS BY AND CONTINUES TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.

No mystery here!

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

stated "...I fear we have awakened the paper tiger...".

That was then.

Now the tiger has not only gone back to sleep, but to paper again and de-clawed and de-toothed to become a laughable (to our enemies and adversaries) permissive pacifist society with linguine spined special interest minority (not race) group, let's not offend anybody leadership....

WHILE THE MAJORITY JUST SITS BY AND CONTINUES TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.

No mystery here!

btk

Sorry, BTK, but Admiral Yamamoto's statement was: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
Let us pray that is the situation again and I believe it is. If we truly display our resolve in November, we have a chance to take out nation back. The past 50 years have been like the frog in the pot of water with the heat being slowly turned up. It's time to stop this nonsense and get back to being Americans - people who take care of themselves and eachother at the same time. It worked very well in the past and can again in the future. We must just regain our work ethic and stop being greedy little piglets at the nipple of big government.

Originally Posted by djplong

Funny. The Muslims I knew and worked with in Boston didn't share those views. I suppose all Catholics support child rape because a few priests did it. I suppose all Christians advocate bombing any building with a woman's clinic in it because a few fundys have done it. I suppose all politicians are gay because of one Senator at the Minneapolis airport.

As a practicing Catholic, I find your comments completely illogical.

In case you didn't see it on network news or CNN or MSNBC

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2010...-zero-part-ii/

Had trouble with your link buddy.