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Old 04-02-2009, 06:12 PM
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The American Voters have expressed their desires and wishes.
Stop listening to Glenn Beck - Rush Limbaugh - Bill O'Reilly - Ann Coulter - Sean Hannady and the rest. Get with the majority and do your part to help.
I just looked up the ratings in Cable News and the top three are:
1) O'Reilly
2) Hannity
3) Beck

Number 4 is O'Reilly's rebroadcast at 11PM.

And is anyone close to Rush's ratings on the radio? I think not. Someone is listening to these guys.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:05 PM
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If all Americans would only buy a Ford, Chevy or a Chrysler and Congress would have banks lower the mortgage interest rates to 4%....It wouldn't matter if Obama or McCain were President, this country would be ok. Of coarse I voted for McCain and really glad I did! What kind of car are you driving?
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:08 PM
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If all Americans would only buy a Ford, Chevy or a Chrysler and Congress would have banks lower the mortgage interest rates to 4%....It wouldn't matter if Obama or McCain were President, this country would be ok. Of coarse I voted for McCain and really glad I did! What kind of car are you driving?
2 Fords in my garage.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:13 PM
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Two Chryslers in mine!!!!!!!
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:09 PM
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Two Jeeps in mine... and a John Deere.
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:37 AM
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If all Americans would only buy a Ford, Chevy or a Chrysler and Congress would have banks lower the mortgage interest rates to 4%....It wouldn't matter if Obama or McCain were President, this country would be ok. Of coarse I voted for McCain and really glad I did! What kind of car are you driving?
Toyota Camry by choice. I guess if I had to by one of the big 3, wouldnt be freedom of choice, then again if they built good automobiles, more would buy them. I do think my Camry was built in the TMMK. Toyota Motor Manufacturing Plant Kentucky. Believe that is the USA. Come to think of it I have a cousing twice removed that works there. Yes and I belive his dad works there. Matter of fact most of the town works there. Sure glad someone is still working there.

this quote came from the internet on Wikipedia...

"The popularity of the Camry showed spectacularly during the 2008 automotive industry crisis – sales of the Camry by itself exceeded General Motors's entire passenger car sales.[47]"

THis quote off the internet on Ford pick ups.
http://www.ita.doc.gov/td/tradepolic...a_MotorVeh.pdf

The Ford Motor Company uses facilities throughout
North America to produce its heavy-duty Fseries
pickup trucks. The truck engines are produced
in Canada, the transmissions in the United States,
and the trucks themselves in U.S. and Mexican
facilities. Before NAFTA, Mexican tariffs and localcontent
rules restricted the volume of trucks or parts
Ford could export to Mexico. “NAFTA has given
us the opportunity to look at these three countries
as a single market so we can maximize our efficiencies,”
says William P. Kelly, Ford’s director of
international government affairs.


That is not the problem who drives what car. What is your thought on NAFTA???

http://www.libertyparkusafd.org/lp/H...20and%20US.pdf
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:11 AM
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Default Nice to see new participants....welcome!!!

The more the merrier.

Ditto on the above post.

The discussion about whether the US builds a good car or not is passe' from years ago. There is more than one of something that is totally acceptable if one looks.

Too many of the gotta haves brands are to show status....which is kind of a phony self gratification.....but to each his/her own......when times are tough and people who are out of a job and scratchin' for survival....they can always try to eat their imports.

BTK
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:03 AM
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Excellent.....billethkid
These so called trans plants in the southern states is just another way for the Japanese to market their products. They give the south a few thousand jobs and reap millions of profit for their (Japanese) economy and give America the few crumbs left over ....make no mistake that ....if the Big 3 (GM, Ford or Chysler) really go down the US we be in really deep dodo we already have lost millions of jobs... Most of us are going to be OK . However, our blue collar kids and their kids will have to go to China, India, Japan for a job as the middle class manufacturing jobs will / are all gone ....Lets take care of them and buy truly American made products. I have had 5 Grand Cherokees and I would put them up against any of the Japanese so called American transplant vehicles. Oh by the way...I was in China two years ago and saw only two Jeeps (both very old) and very very few other AMERICAN cars. Was in South America (Chile) in January of this year and saw even less! There are plenty of jobs over there....please BUY AMERICAN!
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:52 AM
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"I have had 5 Grand Cherokees and I would put them up against any of the Japanese so called American transplant vehicles. "

Jeep Grand Cherokee made the "Worst of the Worst" list of cars in the April 09Consumer Reports based upon much worse than average reliability among 1999-2008 models. But what do they know.

And here is a link to an article about Buick sales in China. It's an older article but Buick sells quite well in China. The article also states GM sells more cars overseas than it does in the US.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12801549/
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:32 AM
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Here are a few more RECENT facts
2008 Motor Trend Car of the Year: Cadillac CTS
2008 North American Car of the Year: Chevy Malibu
2008 Green Car of the Year: Chevy Tahoe Hybrid
2007 Motor Trend Truck of the Year: Chevy Silverado
2007 North American Truck of the Year: Chevy Silverado
2007 North American Car of the Year: Saturn Aura

Strategic Vision gave the Ford Fusion its Total Quality Award as the best-quality midsize sedan on the American market

Ford Fusion ranked highest among midsize cars in the JD Power APEAL study for 2006

GM has rolled out 83 hydrogen-powered, zero-emission Chevrolet Equinoxes since last fall, and has 17 more to go for its trial run.

GM's next small car will be called the Chevrolet Cruze. The automaker says the little car will deliver between 120 and 140 horsepower, while achieving better than 40mpg

The high-tech, 100 mpg Chevy Volt is expected to hit the market in 2010

JD Power gives Chevrolet highest customer retention rate of all automakers.

Cadillac, Mercury, Buick all score higher in JD Power 2007 initial quality ratings than Toyota, Honda, Subaru, BMW, Mercedes, Porshe, Nissan, the list goes on.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:20 PM
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I agree with everything in your last two posts. No argument from me. My point was the Jeep Grand Cherokee is a terrible car and there are plenty of GM cars in China, even though you didn't see any.

By the way, the new Ford Fusion hybrid is getting exceptional ratings and beats out the Civic hybrid. The Fusion hybrid is made in Mexico.

Enough car nonsense, it's not a car thread.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:43 PM
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I do stand corrected ....I read the link on the poor perfomance of the Jeep.
However, I have obviously very lucky with my Jeeps, as they all have been great vehicles....Maybe they were built on Monday morning and not Friday after Lunch (beer break) breaks LOL.
My main point is we need to buy American so we can get back on our feet.
Quality is going to be a concern for all the auto companies....anytime you have poor sales and layoffs, morale and work perfomance do go way down.
In 2001 Jeep/Chrysler was at it's peak and JD Powers was praising the company.Through mergers and a 60% down sizing of its employees 93000 to 39000 they are paying a heavy price...the "Pride will back" you wait and see.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:27 PM
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Here is something dated last week not three years ago....(which in the auto industry is a lifetime)

Buick unseats Toyota in J.D. Power study
Ford brands take four segment awards
By BRENT SNAVELY • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • March 19, 2009

General Motors Corp.’s Buick brand tied for first place with Jaguar in a closely watched vehicle dependability study released by J.D. Power and Associates today, while four of Ford Motor Co.’s vehicles had the highest rank in their segment.

GM’s Buick brand tied in a first place ranking with the luxury Jaguar brand, which was also owned by Ford Motor Co. until June 2008, when it was sold to Tata Motors.

The result were revealed as part of J.D. Power’s long-term vehicle dependability study, which was released Thursday and measures problems experienced by the owners of three-year-old cars, or those from the 2006 model year.
Automakers that perform well on J.D. Power’s vehicle dependability study typically gain market share in the future.

While Lexus was dethroned from the top spot, it the brand finished second and Toyota finished third. As a corporation, Toyota Motor Corp. continued to shine with 10 of its vehicles finishing first in J.D. Power’s segment awards.

Ford Motor Co., which has been a strong quality performer in recent years, saw its Mercury and Lincoln brands finish in the top 10. The company’s volume Ford brand, meanwhile, improved to 11th from 14th last year.

Four of Ford’s vehicles also ranked at the top of J.D. Power’s vehicle segment rankings, making Ford second only to Toyota in the segment rankings.

Bennie Fowler, Ford’s group vice president of global quality, said the results provide additional evidence that the processes Ford began to put in place in 2005 are improving quality.

“Its not just us saying it, it’s the customers,” Fowler said.

Chrysler LLC, which has been a poor performer in recent years, showed major improvement.

With 165 problems per vehicle, the Chrysler brand was ranked in 14th place, just ahead of BMW, and had five fewer problems per 100 vehicles than the industry average. Last year, Chrysler ranked 21st
Cant figure it out, If they are so good, why are the not selling like whats the term you use "" TRANSPLANT"""
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:31 PM
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I do stand corrected ....I read the link on the poor perfomance of the Jeep.
However, I have obviously very lucky with my Jeeps, as they all have been great vehicles....Maybe they were built on Monday morning and not Friday after Lunch (beer break) breaks LOL.
My main point is we need to buy American so we can get back on our feet.
Quality is going to be a concern for all the auto companies....anytime you have poor sales and layoffs, morale and work perfomance do go way down.
In 2001 Jeep/Chrysler was at it's peak and JD Powers was praising the company.Through mergers and a 60% down sizing of its employees 93000 to 39000 they are paying a heavy price...the "Pride will back" you wait and see.
it may have a Japanese name, but made in the USA. Ford has its parts made in Canada, Mexico, China. So why is the Great Amercian 3 made elsewhere????

But back to the orignal Post. The problems with the Big 3 is not a result of Obama either. Pretty sure another cat got us in that direction.
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:31 PM
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Frasca: You hit a home run on your very first post. Keep it up.


Wow! I hope there are a lot more folks like you at TV as we are looking to buy shortly! And wholeheartedly!
 


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