On Dec. 8, 2015, just one day after Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

mike pence said

"Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."

I guess the constitution changed.

Originally Posted by Guest

On Dec. 8, 2015, just one day after Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

mike pence said

"Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."

I guess the constitution changed.

Why do liberals ALWAYS protect those who do us harm?

Muslims, blacks, Hispanics...ALL make things WORSE...yet liberals want MORE of them.

Originally Posted by Guest

On Dec. 8, 2015, just one day after Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

mike pence said

"Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."

I guess the constitution changed.

Well well well I guess when Mike Pence becomes president he can pursue his agenda but for now he works for Trump.

As for the ban the US Constitution does not apply to foreigners only legal citizens of this nation.

By the way you may want to explain this contradiction

Obama heavily relied on the concept of disparate impact when applying it to blacks applications for rents housing, etc. Yet he did not apply this same concept to the proportion of Muslims to Christians he allowed to enter this nation from the Middle East . Hmmmm

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

On Dec. 8, 2015, just one day after Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

mike pence said

"Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."

I guess the constitution changed.

Pence will say anything, do anything his master (Con man Trump) wants him to say. I bet when he said it he had that same face, you know, that face that looks like he's about to cry. So sincere.

Originally Posted by Guest

On Dec. 8, 2015, just one day after Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

mike pence said

"Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."

I guess the constitution changed.

You should site where that quote came from. The total ban as you sited is 6 countries. The top ten countries measured by the actual number of Muslins within their population accounts for 67.2% of the world's Muslims. Of those 10 countries the only one of the 6 banned countries is Iran.

Furthermore without putting anymore effort into this I doubt the executive order says "ban on Muslims". I think it names a ban on 6 countries of which some Christians are included. And to your point yes Pence is right a ban on "Muslims" is probably unconstitutional but he did not say that is what just happened.

I am so tired of the bigotry and stupid comments from people who live in their own shell and have no idea of the truth of why we have problems with the middle east. Get information and get educated and you will find out why our country was so complicit in theses world problems. In 1953 the US sent CIA operatives to Iran an toppled the first democratic government in Iran's history. For our own selfish motives (OIL).
You wonder why they hate us.... do some research and learn the truth.
it is attitudes like yours that put us in the sad situation that we are in. We have an idiot for a president and more idiots elected. him.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am so tired of the bigotry and stupid comments from people who live in their own shell and have no idea of the truth of why we have problems with the middle east. Get information and get educated and you will find out why our country was so complicit in theses world problems. In 1953 the US sent CIA operatives to Iran an toppled the first democratic government in Iran's history. For our own selfish motives (OIL).
You wonder why they hate us.... do some research and learn the truth.
it is attitudes like yours that put us in the sad situation that we are in. We have an idiot for a president and more idiots elected. him.

You sound unhappy and full of hate Alibaba...why don't you move to Iran where there are no idiots? Oh, never mind they are a country of idiots...

Those people that commit these terrorist acts are cowards that spent too much time around the hookah. They blow up, or shoot, innocent people. They don't challenge an individual, they walk into a coffee shop and blow themselves up, and anyone else in there for coffee and donuts. I call anyone that does not want to address that issue the prime example of an idiot. Those people in the coffee shop probably would have kicked the guys ass if they had the chance - the terrorists are COWARDS!

Originally Posted by Guest

On Dec. 8, 2015, just one day after Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

mike pence said

"Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."

I guess the constitution changed.

In what way is the ban on immigrants from countries that are breeding ground for anti American terrorists unconstitutional?

This ban only prevents people from seven countries from entering the US for 90 days. It says nothing about Muslims. In fact the most populous, Muslim majority countries are not on the list.

Originally Posted by Guest

You sound unhappy and full of hate Alibaba...why don't you move to Iran where there are no idiots? Oh, never mind they are a country of idiots...

Those people that commit these terrorist acts are cowards that spent too much time around the hookah. They blow up, or shoot, innocent people. They don't challenge an individual, they walk into a coffee shop and blow themselves up, and anyone else in there for coffee and donuts. I call anyone that does not want to address that issue the prime example of an idiot. Those people in the coffee shop probably would have kicked the guys ass if they had the chance - the terrorists are COWARDS!

They're HARDLY cowards...they physically...by themselves...alone...take out a bunch of "the enemy" in a single "shot".

I bet YOU wouldn't do it. You don't want YOUR hands dirty at all...you HIRE people...the military...to do YOUR dirty work for you.

I disagree with you here dirt...WE are the cowards for being afraid to REALLY deal with Islam the way it needs to be dealt with. The crusades should have finished them off. Mercy may destroy us...like it is with the blacks/Hispanics we have in our own country. Our kindness may kill us. Remember...no good deed goes unpunished.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am so tired of the bigotry and stupid comments from people who live in their own shell and have no idea of the truth of why we have problems with the middle east. Get information and get educated and you will find out why our country was so complicit in theses world problems. In 1953 the US sent CIA operatives to Iran an toppled the first democratic government in Iran's history. For our own selfish motives (OIL).
You wonder why they hate us.... do some research and learn the truth.
it is attitudes like yours that put us in the sad situation that we are in. We have an idiot for a president and more idiots elected. him.

Some of that might make some sense if we were having a problem with the governments of those countries. However most of the problems with terrorism have to do with radical Islamists who are not part of the official government of those countries. In fact, in Iraq and Syria, the terrorists are trying to oust the current governments and turn them into Muslim theocracies.

Oil has nothing to do with any of this. We only get a small percentage of our oil from the Middle East.

Originally Posted by Guest

I bet YOU wouldn't do it. You don't want YOUR hands dirty at all...you HIRE people...the military...to do YOUR dirty work for you.

You would not shoot up a room of unsuspecting Blacks and Hispanics would you Don? The answer is no because you are not a pu$$y.

You don't like them so you moved to the Villages where there are very few, but you don't shoot at the few in the square and you don't blow them up in a coffee shop.

Now if a guy (any guy) spit on your golf cart you would "man up" and have some words with that individual. But you would not take unsuspecting bystanders lives because he spit on your golf cart.

Terrorists are COWARDS.

Originally Posted by Guest

Some of that might make some sense if we were having a problem with the governments of those countries. However most of the problems with terrorism have to do with radical Islamists who are not part of the official government of those countries. In fact, in Iraq and Syria, the terrorists are trying to oust the current governments and turn them into Muslim theocracies.

Oil has nothing to do with any of this. We only get a small percentage of our oil from the Middle East.

Those "governments" are as corrupt as ours...the "bad guys" are the actual people rising up like our American revolution. But since they're against the government we work with...they're the bad guys. Except Syria, there it's the "government" who turned rogue against us, and we're helping the "people"...really guys who will work for us...take over.

Oil has EVERYTHING to do with it...oil is THE lifeblood of the world. NOTHING happens without oil...NOTHING.

That oil doesn't go here...we get ours from CA, MX, VN, here on out own continent. But our CUSTOMERS...they need that oil...so we make sure they get it.

The whole "Russian" thing is all about Russia's control and leverage of natural gas, the Russians have it and Europe wants it...reliably without having to always bow down.

The "news" is ALL "fake"...don't even turn it on. Unfortunately, staying informed takes work. EVERYONE "spoon feeding" you the "news" is feeding you their spin, their agenda, propaganda.

Originally Posted by Guest

You would not shoot up a room of unsuspecting Blacks and Hispanics would you Don? The answer is no because you are not a pu$$y.

You don't like them so you moved to the Villages where there are very few, but you don't shoot at the few in the square and you don't blow them up in a coffee shop.

Now if a guy (any guy) spit on your golf cart you would "man up" and have some words with that individual. But you would not take unsuspecting bystanders lives because he spit on your golf cart.

Terrorists are COWARDS.

Context dirt! Context!

Blow up a crowd for spitting? A liberal might if you called someone a n!@@3r...only they are that emotionally unhinged.

These terrorists have a cause...they're fighting the way they have to fight. It's their ONLY way of bringing attention to their cause. If they didn't blow something up, would anyone know they were there? Would you know about Palestinians if they didn't blow things up? The continuing Iraq and Afghanistan problems if they didn't blow people up? It's what they do in the ME...they bomb.

We have shootings, they have bombings...know why? Everyone is armed there, a shooter would last less than a minute. So, for effect and impact...ar ar...they blow everyone up.

I might...in 25 years IF the country has fallen into a 3rd world hell...I just might pick up arms and do my part. I had to do it before...this time would be for MY people and not foreigners. But again...context...it would be a different world then, there wouldn't BE people sitting around in coffee shops, it would be a 3rd world hell...like the place the "terrorists" live. Isn't it funny how things circle around, cause and effect? I might do in their world, what they do in mine...

"Terrorists" are the least of our worries in America today...the looming black/hispanic majority SHOULD be our biggest worry...it IS changing your country. Eventually, into a 3rd world hell.

Visit the barrio, MLK Blvd to see Americas future...they're the majority below age 7. Biden said we're already not a majority in a speech link I posted earlier.

Originally Posted by Guest

Why do liberals ALWAYS protect those who do us harm?

Muslims, blacks, Hispanics...ALL make things WORSE...yet liberals want MORE of them.

Can you read, it wasn't a liberal that I quoted. Can't stand it when one of your own disagrees with you. Also. I didn't see whites in your group.

Originally Posted by Ill-Informed Guest

You should site where that quote came from. The total ban as you sited is 6 countries. The top ten countries measured by the actual number of Muslins within their population accounts for 67.2% of the world's Muslims. Of those 10 countries the only one of the 6 banned countries is Iran.

Furthermore without putting anymore effort into this I doubt the executive order says "ban on Muslims". I think it names a ban on 6 countries of which some Christians are included. And to your point yes Pence is right a ban on "Muslims" is probably unconstitutional but he did not say that is what just happened.

Are you truly that ill informed?

Maybe you really should..."put more effort into it."

Go look again, as Chump's executive order absolutely targets Muslims (not the ones in countries where he has business interest of course)...and favors Christians.

We’ll See You in Court: Why Trump’s Executive Order on Refugees Violates the Establishment Clause | American Civil Liberties Union

On Friday he signed an executive order on refugees that imposes a selective ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries as well as establishes preferential treatment for refugees seeking asylum who are identified with “minority religions” in their country of origin.

In case there was any doubt about the latter provision’s intent, Trump told Christian Broadcast News that it was intended to give priority to “Christians” seeking asylum over “Muslims.”

And you're OK with this unconstitutional discrimination?

Originally Posted by Guest

Well well well I guess when Mike Pence becomes president he can pursue his agenda but for now he works for Trump.

As for the ban the US Constitution does not apply to foreigners only legal citizens of this nation.

By the way you may want to explain this contradiction

Obama heavily relied on the concept of disparate impact when applying it to blacks applications for rents housing, etc. Yet he did not apply this same concept to the proportion of Muslims to Christians he allowed to enter this nation from the Middle East . Hmmmm

Personal Best Regards:

So, when you "work" for someone you have to get rid of all your opinions and bow to the master, sounds like communism. Mike then does not know anything about the Constitution. Always have to bring Obama into an argument when you can't defend your disagreement.