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Old 02-25-2016, 12:09 PM
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Actually the Supreme Court of the United States thinks otherwise in a 7-2 decision.

SCOTUS: States Can't Require Proof of Citizenship to Vote Using Federal Form - Breitbart
That does not mean that they are right. It just means that the CURRENT Supreme court with liberal ideology has deemed it a particular way. Anyone that can read can see the requirement, therefore the Supreme Court is wrong in this case. How ever, each state COULD require proof of citizenship in order to register for a voter registration ID card. The registration form states that you MUST be a U.S. citizen.

In a court of law, such blatant errors could be equivalent to mishandling the chain of custody for evidence and the charges would be dismissed. I wonder if someday, a very smart lawyer will contest the election voting results and make any states that did not require proof of citizenship, an invalid count. If you can't determine the legality of a vote, then it should be discarded. Right now, it seems we are on the honor system for voting.

If liquor stores were only required to use the honor system for determining age, then they wouldn't lose their license.
How about if a pharmacy used that system for prescriptions?
Why do airlines require an ID?
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Old 02-25-2016, 05:55 PM
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The answer is to arrest and prosecute any employer that hires an illegal alien. No jobs, and they will go home. After all, all our big companies are opening up in Mexico.

But, I will go with a big wall, and deportation for anyone caught by the police for breaking the law, even traffic violations.
Do you really think that the repub hierarchy would allow prosecution of an employer? That really is the answer.
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That does not mean that they are right. It just means that the CURRENT Supreme court with liberal ideology has deemed it a particular way. Anyone that can read can see the requirement, therefore the Supreme Court is wrong in this case. How ever, each state COULD require proof of citizenship in order to register for a voter registration ID card. The registration form states that you MUST be a U.S. citizen.

In a court of law, such blatant errors could be equivalent to mishandling the chain of custody for evidence and the charges would be dismissed. I wonder if someday, a very smart lawyer will contest the election voting results and make any states that did not require proof of citizenship, an invalid count. If you can't determine the legality of a vote, then it should be discarded. Right now, it seems we are on the honor system for voting.

If liquor stores were only required to use the honor system for determining age, then they wouldn't lose their license.
How about if a pharmacy used that system for prescriptions?
Why do airlines require an ID?
You signaled your intelligence LIBERAL court. The current court leans 5-4 to the right, of course that was before Scalia's death. This decision was 7-2.

Can you provide a link for a study that looked at the number of illegals who VOTED in an election? In Kansas they could only find 11 people who had registered to vote but no one who had actually VOTED!!!

I await your link.......
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Old 02-25-2016, 07:15 PM
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Do you really think that the repub hierarchy would allow prosecution of an employer? That really is the answer.
Why do you single out the republicans with that question.

Do you really think that the democratic hierarchy would allow prosecution of an employer? That really is the the other half the answer.

Remember? We are talking politicians here not honest or honorable people, hence it is impossible to distinguish one from another....R or D.
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Old 02-25-2016, 08:37 PM
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You signaled your intelligence LIBERAL court. The current court leans 5-4 to the right, of course that was before Scalia's death. This decision was 7-2.

Can you provide a link for a study that looked at the number of illegals who VOTED in an election? In Kansas they could only find 11 people who had registered to vote but no one who had actually VOTED!!!

I await your link.......
Hey dummy, if they were KNOWN to be illegal they wouldn't have been allowed to vote right? I don't know of anyone that obtained prescriptions illegally either, or liquor, or plane tickets.

The law is the law. Citizenship is required to vote. How do you prove citizenship, by the honor system? I did know someone in NC that voted twice. Once as himself and once as his invalid father. All they ask for in NC is your address. They didn't even ask for any proof of your name. Just asked you name and address.

How did they find those eleven that voted illegally? Did they show ID?

Is there any reason that you can come up with that would be logical enough to NOT warrant a photo ID to vote? Please tell me that you can give me one person that you know of that votes that does not have an ID. They never have traveled, used medication, bought liquor, etc??? I have yet to hear a liberal give me one VALID reason NOT to have a voter ID.
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Old 02-25-2016, 10:26 PM
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I moved to Florida from Maryland. No form of identification is required to cast your ballot in Maryland. Just tell the person checking you in your name, address, and birthdate. That is the State Law. It has been that way with both Republican and Democratic governors.
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Hey dummy, if they were KNOWN to be illegal they wouldn't have been allowed to vote right? I don't know of anyone that obtained prescriptions illegally either, or liquor, or plane tickets.

The law is the law. Citizenship is required to vote. How do you prove citizenship, by the honor system? I did know someone in NC that voted twice. Once as himself and once as his invalid father. All they ask for in NC is your address. They didn't even ask for any proof of your name. Just asked you name and address.

How did they find those eleven that voted illegally? Did they show ID?

Is there any reason that you can come up with that would be logical enough to NOT warrant a photo ID to vote? Please tell me that you can give me one person that you know of that votes that does not have an ID. They never have traveled, used medication, bought liquor, etc??? I have yet to hear a liberal give me one VALID reason NOT to have a voter ID.
I have no problem providing my driver's license in order to vote being doing that for years. There was a study in Kansas which did turn up 11 illegals who registered but didn't VOTE. I know of a person living in NC who votes in Florida!

Here is link to one woman...

She

But here is what is happening in Kansas

More than 21,000 Kansans

They are denying veterans the right to vote.....

Now I noticed you didn't provide a link to evidence of document voter fraud so I will again be waiting.
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Old 02-25-2016, 10:45 PM
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Hey dummy, if they were KNOWN to be illegal they wouldn't have been allowed to vote right? I don't know of anyone that obtained prescriptions illegally either, or liquor, or plane tickets.

The law is the law. Citizenship is required to vote. How do you prove citizenship, by the honor system? I did know someone in NC that voted twice. Once as himself and once as his invalid father. All they ask for in NC is your address. They didn't even ask for any proof of your name. Just asked you name and address.

How did they find those eleven that voted illegally? Did they show ID?

Is there any reason that you can come up with that would be logical enough to NOT warrant a photo ID to vote? Please tell me that you can give me one person that you know of that votes that does not have an ID. They never have traveled, used medication, bought liquor, etc??? I have yet to hear a liberal give me one VALID reason NOT to have a voter ID.
Apparently, you missed the news clip that showed state representatives in the states that are trying to pass stricter voting laws voting for their absent colleagues. Some were sitting there with sticks, so they wouldn't have to get off the dead asses to hit their colleagues voting box. Some of the representatives were voting two or more times on a bill. Maybe they should start voting only once in their own chambers, and set a good example of what voting a real democracy is. They should try to live by their own rules.

I would like to hear one Republican that thinks that the states passing the stricter laws aren't targeting minorities. Why is so hard to accept that inner city minorities don't have drivers licenses? Why is obtaining a voter id only during working hours? The post office has mobile trucks that you can buy stamps, or mail items from. Why don't these states have mobile vehicles that will go into minority sections of cities, and issue voter ids? Why is making it easy to obtain a voter id a real problem?

Better yet, why not hand out voter ids at the polling booth at the next election. All the voter would have to do is show the id that they showed in the past, and then that person would receive voter id.

As soon as, the courts said that basically southern states didn't have to get courts approval before they could change the voting laws due to their discriminatory past practices, South Carolina, and Texas rushed to adopt strict voter id laws. South Caroline did it in a day.

You are going to sit there with a straight face, and say that minorities are being targeted. Come on man! If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
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I moved to Florida from Maryland. No form of identification is required to cast your ballot in Maryland. Just tell the person checking you in your name, address, and birthdate. That is the State Law. It has been that way with both Republican and Democratic governors.
Yes, and look at how messed up Maryland is. One of the worst cesspools in the country. And yes, I grew up there too. And I was smart enough to leave a long time ago. They tax everything, including rain tax, flush tax, having another home in another state, etc. Even California is better.
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Apparently, you missed the news clip that showed state representatives in the states that are trying to pass stricter voting laws voting for their absent colleagues. Some were sitting there with sticks, so they wouldn't have to get off the dead asses to hit their colleagues voting box. Some of the representatives were voting two or more times on a bill. Maybe they should start voting only once in their own chambers, and set a good example of what voting a real democracy is. They should try to live by their own rules.

I would like to hear one Republican that thinks that the states passing the stricter laws aren't targeting minorities. Why is so hard to accept that inner city minorities don't have drivers licenses? Why is obtaining a voter id only during working hours? The post office has mobile trucks that you can buy stamps, or mail items from. Why don't these states have mobile vehicles that will go into minority sections of cities, and issue voter ids? Why is making it easy to obtain a voter id a real problem?

Better yet, why not hand out voter ids at the polling booth at the next election. All the voter would have to do is show the id that they showed in the past, and then that person would receive voter id.

As soon as, the courts said that basically southern states didn't have to get courts approval before they could change the voting laws due to their discriminatory past practices, South Carolina, and Texas rushed to adopt strict voter id laws. South Caroline did it in a day.

You are going to sit there with a straight face, and say that minorities are being targeted. Come on man! If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
BS! Again, you are lying. Are you trying to convince me that minorities are stupid, and lazy? Are you telling me that minorities do not have a birth certificate, no ID, etc? If you believe that, then you are an idiot. I was a cop back in the 70's and never arrested one person that didn't have an ID available, either on him or at home. You are just spreading unfounded lies because you are afraid that we might be right in our supposition that there might be illegal voting practices going on that many do not know of. Even if there isn't, then the idea of voter ID is not unreasonable. When you register to vote, you have to check the box that certifies that you are a U.S. citizen. Proof should be required at the same time. PERIOD.

Another libtard shouting RACISM when they lose an argument.
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I moved to Florida from Maryland. No form of identification is required to cast your ballot in Maryland. Just tell the person checking you in your name, address, and birthdate. That is the State Law. It has been that way with both Republican and Democratic governors.
Yes, you are right. Each State determines if ID is required to vote or not. It is one of those things left to the States by the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

Maryland is one of 13 States not requiring ID to vote.
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Yes, you are right. Each State determines if ID is required to vote or not. It is one of those things left to the States by the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

Maryland is one of 13 States not requiring ID to vote.
Don't you wonder what happened to the constitutionality of state rights? You say MD requires ID to vote. So does Florida. But, what happens when someone takes it to court? The court tells the state that they can't require the ID. Another reason for term limits on everything political, especially the Supreme Court.
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Hey dummy, if they were KNOWN to be illegal they wouldn't have been allowed to vote right? I don't know of anyone that obtained prescriptions illegally either, or liquor, or plane tickets.

The law is the law. Citizenship is required to vote. How do you prove citizenship, by the honor system? I did know someone in NC that voted twice. Once as himself and once as his invalid father. All they ask for in NC is your address. They didn't even ask for any proof of your name. Just asked you name and address.

How did they find those eleven that voted illegally? Did they show ID?

Is there any reason that you can come up with that would be logical enough to NOT warrant a photo ID to vote? Please tell me that you can give me one person that you know of that votes that does not have an ID. They never have traveled, used medication, bought liquor, etc??? I have yet to hear a liberal give me one VALID reason NOT to have a voter ID.
Still waiting for that link that shows voter fraud! But we both know you can't because voter fraud at a level to swing a race just doesn't exist. But purging rolls, strict voter ID laws and stricter registration rules does suppress the vote.

But I have time I will wait for your link!
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Still waiting for that link that shows voter fraud! But we both know you can't because voter fraud at a level to swing a race just doesn't exist. But purging rolls, strict voter ID laws and stricter registration rules does suppress the vote.

But I have time I will wait for your link!
Why don't you provide some links that prove there is NO fraud? Are you an idiot or impaired that you did not comprehend that there is hardly any way of detecting voter fraud without first proving that someone is a legitimate voter? By the way, remember ACORN? There is one example of voter fraud. YOU look it up. That's just one example.

You are saying that you want to prove that a drunk drove home from the bar the night before, the next morning right? You want to prove that I was speeding on my down Rt95, a week after I arrived at my home? That is what you are saying.

I am not going to read through this 130+ pages, but it might be interesting reading. You probably won't accept anything from heritage.org.

http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/20...Merged-3-2.pdf
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Why don't you provide some links that prove there is NO fraud? Are you an idiot or impaired that you did not comprehend that there is hardly any way of detecting voter fraud without first proving that someone is a legitimate voter? By the way, remember ACORN? There is one example of voter fraud. YOU look it up. That's just one example.

You are saying that you want to prove that a drunk drove home from the bar the night before, the next morning right? You want to prove that I was speeding on my down Rt95, a week after I arrived at my home? That is what you are saying.

I am not going to read through this 130+ pages, but it might be interesting reading. You probably won't accept anything from heritage.org.

http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/20...Merged-3-2.pdf
Actually you are absolutely wrong about ACORN and their involvement in voter fraud. To commit voter fraud you have to ACTUALLY VOTE! Acorn was paying people to get people to sign up to vote. But do to a highly edited uncover sting operation by James O'Keefe.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...rn-pimp/160485

After investigation ACORN was cleared of any wrong doing but the Republican myth lives on! Who looks stupid now?

I will look at Heritage stuff if you provide it! I am as narrow minded as you!
 

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