[rsmurano]

About the same time when pigs can fly or hell freezes over.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

And Hansen is one of the best stir posts.

From this article about the controversy:

Bob Reiss reports the conversation as follows:

"When I interviewe**d James Hansen I asked him to speculate on what the view outside his office window could look like in 40 years with doubled CO2. I'd been trying to think of a way to discuss the greenhouse effect in a way that would make sense to average readers. I wasn't asking for hard scientific studies. It wasn't an academic interview. It was a discussion with a kind and thoughtful man who answered the question. You can find the descriptio**n in two of my books, most recently The Coming Storm."

James Hansen reports the conversation as follows:

"Reiss asked me to speculate on changes that might happen in New York City in 40 years assuming CO2 doubled in amount."

Please note that it is not 2028 and CO2 has not doubled.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

From this article about the controversy:

Bob Reiss reports the conversation as follows:

"When I interviewe**d James Hansen I asked him to speculate on what the view outside his office window could look like in 40 years with doubled CO2. I'd been trying to think of a way to discuss the greenhouse effect in a way that would make sense to average readers. I wasn't asking for hard scientific studies. It wasn't an academic interview. It was a discussion with a kind and thoughtful man who answered the question. You can find the descriptio**n in two of my books, most recently The Coming Storm."

James Hansen reports the conversation as follows:

"Reiss asked me to speculate on changes that might happen in New York City in 40 years assuming CO2 doubled in amount."

Please note that it is not 2028 and CO2 has not doubled.

Hansen fails another forecast.

[jimkerr]

Originally Posted by sounding

The Villages Philosophy Club will examine this issue at 4 PM on Jan 17 at the Lake Miona Recreation Center.

This sounds like a fun club.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Critical thinkers should be able to jump all over this.

Arctic warming releases MASSIVE amounts of METHANE, a greenhouse gas which accelerated Global Warming. Polar bears and other mammals rely on ICE for hunting and protection - they are struggling to survive. The same is true for indigenous PEOPLE. past a certain point, climate recovery is nearly impossible.
........Permafrost is rapidly warming and drying out in Siberia and the Canadian Northwest Territory. Thawing permafrost can release stored carbon through the increased risk of fire. That will ADD to the CO2 in the upper atmosphere which reflects heat back to the Earth and our mid-latitudes.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

No concern of mine, my kids, or grands.
Not a problem.
Just another **** stir post.

Actually kids and grandchildren WILL be affected. WE are being affected as we speak. Last summer we had record HEAT in the Gulf and Atlantic ocean and we had the MOST PROPERTY DESTRUCTIVE hurricane to hit the US. I was affected last summer. I had to restrict my outdoor activities here in The Villages. Look at a graph of World HEAT for the last 10 years (all records). Also look at the graph of world population since about 1990 (a rapid spike upward).

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

And Hansen is one of the best stir posts.

Icebergs are melting and the Oceans ARE rising today.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

About the same time when pigs can fly or hell freezes over.

A person can only AVOID science for so long.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Icebergs are melting and the Oceans ARE rising today.

That's like saying the sun comes up in the East. Oceans go Up & Down 400 feet each glaciation cycle. Sea levels were about 25 HIGHER during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. It's all natural -- except for the climate alarmism part.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

That's like saying the sun comes up in the East. Oceans go Up & Down 400 feet each glaciation cycle. Sea levels were about 25 HIGHER during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. It's all natural -- except for the climate alarmism part.

What happened in prehistorical time 1000 or 100,000 years ago has zero meaning as to what is happening today and what I am talking about. Old time geology is just a DISTRACTION which may SOUND (ing) good to try and obscure what is really happening today. Today I am talking about VERIFIABLE global heating happening in the last 5 or 10 years. And caused by the reflection of the Sun's heat back to the Earth that bounces back from a layer of CO2 and methane that has formed recently (10 years) because of rapid INCREASES of pollution caused by INCREASED world population and therefore more infernal combustion engines, more coal usage, and more industrial pollution. Merely look at the graphs for world population increase and graphs for CO2 and methane world pollution.They all increase in the last 10 years.
.........One does NOT have to read a book about what happened to the Earth 2 million years ago. One can just look outside their window and see the Internal combustion cars, trucks, and golf carts going by to DIRECTLY see the problem.
..........My famous quote..,.....The world that IGNORES Global Warming must SUFFER its consequences! Ignore your Mother, Mother Earth at your peril.

[Rodneysblue]

Well at the current rate of expansion…..

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

What happened in prehistorical time 1000 or 100,000 years ago has zero meaning as to what is happening today and what I am talking about. Old time geology is just a DISTRACTION which may SOUND (ing) good to try and obscure what is really happening today. Today I am talking about VERIFIABLE global heating happening in the last 5 or 10 years. And caused by the reflection of the Sun's heat back to the Earth that bounces back from a layer of CO2 and methane that has formed recently (10 years) because of rapid INCREASES of pollution caused by INCREASED world population and therefore more infernal combustion engines, more coal usage, and more industrial pollution. Merely look at the graphs for world population increase and graphs for CO2 and methane world pollution.They all increase in the last 10 years.
.........One does NOT have to read a book about what happened to the Earth 2 million years ago. One can just look outside their window and see the Internal combustion cars, trucks, and golf carts going by to DIRECTLY see the problem.
..........My famous quote..,.....The world that IGNORES Global Warming must SUFFER its consequences! Ignore your Mother, Mother Earth at your peril.

"Suffer the consequences"? .... so why are soooo many moving to Florida? We are approaching a climatic optimum -- thanx to global warming and increasing CO2.

[jedalton]

Ha Ha, what a joke

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by sounding

Hansen fails another forecast.

Al Gore was just as bad with his 'no glaciers remaining by 2015" prediction.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

What happened in prehistorical time 1000 or 100,000 years ago has zero meaning as to what is happening today and what I am talking about.

What percentage of the current warming is caused by the well know natural warming that would be happening right now even if human never existed and what percentage of the warming is caused by humans? Go ahead and round to the nearest 5%. State the source as well.

Interested to see howich is our fault so we know how much we can stop.

Thanks!!