[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The 1930's was a whole different world. What was the population of the US.......maybe 60 million people. What was the world population.........not enough to cause global warming. Most Americans were farmers and had no mental problems caused by heat and overcrowding in cities.

123 Million in 1930...
127 Million in 1935...
132 Million in 1940...

But why let facts ruin a good argument?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

It would be better if you cited a reputable review that disputed it.

But sure, 99% is probably not accurate. It could be 98.6% or 99.2% or 97.1% but it almost certainly is not exactly 99%. From a quick review of what google wanted to tell me tonight, I couldn't find anything in the last five years that found less than 97% and even results back to 2014 seemed to agree with >90%.

But you can show a different result?

The Forbes article I posted above...

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

The Forbes article I posted above...

... is consistent with what I wrote (it was one that I looked at earlier)

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

Here's he rest of the story. PS... bleaching is as normal as wardrobe changing. We change for seasons as corals corals do for many reasons. https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uplo...eid=2757d1864c

The article argues that there is a record high coverage - I did not dispute that.

I wrote that quality matters too - the article did not address that.

The last page of the article, the list of "climate change is bogus" articles, was quite enlightening. Not exactly an unbiased scientific organization.

Stick with weather - climatology is difficult and marine biology is an entirely different field

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

The article argues that there is a record high coverage - I did not dispute that.

I wrote that quality matters too - the article did not address that.

The last page of the article, the list of "climate change is bogus" articles, was quite enlightening. Not exactly an unbiased scientific organization.

Stick with weather - your climatologist chops are lacking and your marine biologist "expertise" seems to be worse.

Attacking the person is a favorite tool of climate alarmists, which is not how science works. Science is based on data - not rhetoric. Here's the data. Notice there is no coral growing in the flaming hot polar oceans. They love warm water and CO2.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by M2inOR

I spent the last two weeks traveling around Iceland. Yes, the climate is changing.

Man caused? Doubtful.

We had a mini ice age 500 years. At one time, not long ago, Iceland was completely under glacial ice. That ice has been receding long before man stepped foot in Iceland and even Europe. Fossil remains also show teaches of warm weather plants and animals from thousands and millions of years ago.

Sometimes climate change is influenced by plate tectonics. Other times by astronomical events. Sometimes by volcanic action. None of those can be stopped by human activity.

Best we can do is adapt. Darwin told us that it's survival of the fittest!

Ditto -- and the snow skiers are happily adapting this year ... Mammoth Mountain Finishes Second Longest Ski Season Ever - Cold Weather Report

[Two Bills]

Talk about laying on the scare factor.

UK Met office has just issued "Excessive heat warnings" for many parts of UK.
Temps of 80f+ are forecast.
Many elderly will be at risk!

Forecasters earlier this week predicted that a "pulse of heat" would ravage Britain with some predicting temperatures could reach a maximum of 30C. (86f)

Can't wait for winter if temp. drops below freezing!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Talk about laying on the scare factor.

UK Met office has just issued "Excessive heat warnings" for many parts of UK.
Temps of 80f+ are forecast.
Many elderly will be at risk!

Forecasters earlier this week predicted that a "pulse of heat" would ravage Britain with some predicting temperatures could reach a maximum of 30C. (86f)

Can't wait for winter if temp. drops below freezing!

86F "ravaging" Great Britain????
Looks like British media has joined the fake weather/climate party
Please send some of that 86F our way---I'm sure our media will find a way to blame a 10F drop in temp on global warming.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Talk about laying on the scare factor.

UK Met office has just issued "Excessive heat warnings" for many parts of UK.
Temps of 80f+ are forecast.
Many elderly will be at risk!

Forecasters earlier this week predicted that a "pulse of heat" would ravage Britain with some predicting temperatures could reach a maximum of 30C. (86f)

Can't wait for winter if temp. drops below freezing!

Ireland was unusually cold - for July ... Cold July Leaves Ireland Hoping Summer Returns - Cold Weather Report

[eyc234]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...1fe7e693&ei=62

You can find and regurgitate words from both sides of this debate. Was taught from youngest days to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. To say that nothing is happening when it clearly is, sticking your head in the sand and then whining when you need help. There are things that can be done to mitigate the impact on human suffering and we should do them.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by sounding

Ireland was unusually cold - for July ... Cold July Leaves Ireland Hoping Summer Returns - Cold Weather Report

But after all, isn't that due to global warming???? I mean, glaciers are melting due to global warming, glaciers are growing due to global warming. I didn't make one lousy birdie until the 15th hole yesterday---that must be due to global warming as well

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bcsnave

I just plotted temps from 1895 - 2022....contrary to what everyone wants you to believe...we are not boiling

Plotted July temps 1895 to 2022
Plotted Avg Annual Temp 1895 - 2022

looking at the standard deviation it is not significant

Temperature - Florida Climate Center

Of course, a standard deviation that is not significant supports the observation that temps are rising in our area.

[Bay Kid]

Twilight Zone did a show about extreme cold then ended with extreme heat.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Twilight Zone did a show about extreme cold then ended with extreme heat.

Yep---science fiction, just like the narrative the climate change alarmists and their acolytes are cramming down our throats.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by sounding

Ireland was unusually cold - for July ... Cold July Leaves Ireland Hoping Summer Returns - Cold Weather Report

just got back from Ireland, first time so not sure, but according to the locals june had visitors getting sun tans, which was totally unexpected. . . (clear skies, little rain, not heat!)

however, weather .com irish weather forecasts were only good for about a day ahead. two days ahead was 50/50, and farther than that was ignored as swags. .

humans have recently bias, the brain can't hold all that historical data, so the recent articles are apropos