[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Food production has zip to do with global warming compared to increased farming and improved techniques.
Oh, and don't forget to take your CO2 fire extinguisher to demonstrate how great it is for all life forms by blankets a terrarium in CO2. Breath deep. It's good for you. You said so!

Canadians and Siberians love "global warming" as it extends the growing season, enabling healthier and happier populations. Weather Club attendees also know that increasing CO2 is also making the earth greener -- and they even know that human exhaled breath, which contains 400 times more CO2 than our atmosphere, can save a life.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

Canadians and Siberians love "global warming" as it extends the growing season, enabling healthier and happier populations. Weather Club attendees also know that increasing CO2 is also making the earth greener -- and they even know that human exhaled breath, which contains 400 times more CO2 than our atmosphere, can save a life.

Confirmation bias and misuse/misunderstanding of data at its best.

10,000 in motorcycle helmets is measured but is not considered healthy (CO2 and O2 Levels in Integrated Motorcycle Helmets)

40,000 in exhaled breath used for CPR is not the ideal but is what is available and is better than nothing. Exhaled air at 40,000 is not what is chosen when bottling air for emergency situations. In those cases, "standard" air at 400 is used or straight O2 (at 0) is used.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

"Too many" according to who and by what standards?

"International community engages in annual harvests?" Didn't you previously point to a for-profit, pay-per-kill license. Sounds less like a internationally-approved harvest and more like a locally-approved fundraiser.

"Too many" is defined by the number of allowed harvests each year -- which typically range from 600 to 800 ... which is similar to the Black Bear hunts in NJ and elsewhere. Weather Club attendees know this stuff which can be confirmed via Canadian government offices, which is easily Googleable. Bottom line - there is no climate crisis - just climate alarmism.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by sounding

Canadians and Siberians love "global warming" as it extends the growing season, enabling healthier and happier populations. Weather Club attendees also know that increasing CO2 is also making the earth greener -- and they even know that human exhaled breath, which contains 400 times more CO2 than our atmosphere, can save a life.

Canadians love global warming - just like the Siberians ... Warming climate powers Canadian agriculture | Toronto Sun

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

Canadians love global warming - just like the Siberians ... Warming climate powers Canadian agriculture | Toronto Sun

Which Canadians and Siberians? Just like on TOTV you can find some folks that like one thing while others dislike it. There will always be someone who will speak opposing ideas, either out of ignorance or to propagate a falsehood.
We know the planet is heating up. We know that it is heating faster than it normally would. We know that humans are populating, polluting and plundering the planet. Huge areas of the planetary habitats and ecosystems are being systematically being destroyed by human endeavors. Short term thinkers wanting short term comforts try everything they can to deflect from the reality that humans are at the root of the planets woes, exacerbating global warming, poisoning earth, air and sea. We see the change in positions, from denying that global warming is real to acknowledging it but denying that it is a problem or that humanity plays any role. Little by little, step by step, as the truth becomes undeniable, there will still be some who will refuse to accept it. All is not right in the world, and we broke it. It's up to us, all of us, to become big boys and girls, accept we have a problem. Then, maybe, just maybe, we can try to fix it.
My time is getting short. I can't do much but be honest with myself and make some easy and practical changes. Oh, and cheer on the truth tellers.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Which Canadians and Siberians? Just like on TOTV you can find some folks that like one thing while others dislike it. There will always be someone who will speak opposing ideas, either out of ignorance or to propagate a falsehood.
We know the planet is heating up. We know that it is heating faster than it normally would. We know that humans are populating, polluting and plundering the planet. Huge areas of the planetary habitats and ecosystems are being systematically being destroyed by human endeavors. Short term thinkers wanting short term comforts try everything they can to deflect from the reality that humans are at the root of the planets woes, exacerbating global warming, poisoning earth, air and sea. We see the change in positions, from denying that global warming is real to acknowledging it but denying that it is a problem or that humanity plays any role. Little by little, step by step, as the truth becomes undeniable, there will still be some who will refuse to accept it. All is not right in the world, and we broke it. It's up to us, all of us, to become big boys and girls, accept we have a problem. Then, maybe, just maybe, we can try to fix it.
My time is getting short. I can't do much but be honest with myself and make some easy and practical changes. Oh, and cheer on the truth tellers.

Canadians know ... Just a moment...

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

Canadians know ... Just a moment...

Canadians know a lot. Most realize that, as one travel ad says, they have the best backyard in the world. Hunting, fishing, hiking,canoeing, kayaking in the warmer months. Skiing, snowboarding, snowmobile, snowshoe hikes, ice fishing in the cold months. Global warming can/will affect all that. To every positive there is a negative. Longer growing season does not automatically translate to more food, higher profit. Not every industry will experience positive results. Many may falter and fail. For a healthy planet all things must be in balance.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Canadians know a lot. Most realize that, as one travel ad says, they have the best backyard in the world. Hunting, fishing, hiking,canoeing, kayaking in the warmer months. Skiing, snowboarding, snowmobile, snowshoe hikes, ice fishing in the cold months. Global warming can/will affect all that. To every positive there is a negative. Longer growing season does not automatically translate to more food, higher profit. Not every industry will experience positive results. Many may falter and fail. For a healthy planet all things must be in balance.

That "balance" thing is a made-up construct to delude the public in thinking climate change is a crisis -- when it's climate alarmism that's the crisis. Our climate was never in balance -- which is why the climate keeps changing. Look at the graph of the past ... exactly when was the earth ever in balance -- never.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

That "balance" thing is a made-up construct to delude the public in thinking climate change was a crisis -- when it's climate alarmism that's the crisis. Our climate was never in balance -- which is why the climate keeps changing. Look at the graph of the past ... exactly when was the earth ever in balance -- never.

Balance in the natural world isn't actually the same thing as stationary or static. When you stand still your muscles are constantly making minute adjustments to keep you appearing to be sill as you breath. In the natural world if there is excess food, animals may birth more babies. When food is scarce, animals may produce less offspring or, if things are really rough, some animals can spontaneously abort fetuses so the mother will have a better chance of survival until food becomes more plentiful. A tightrope walker balances on the rope but isn't stationary. Not for a moment. But, as skilled as the balancer is, if they are interfered with, even a little bit, they can start to swing and sway more and more until the fall. Unless they get some help to allow them to reestablish that delicate balance.
No one ever claimed the climate was static. Our planet has had hot periods and cold periods. But always the changes were totally the work of natural forces. This time though, the forces of nature have, unexpectedly, have had a little extra help from (drum roll, please) Humanity! We are one interference clinging to one leg of that wobbly tightrope walker. The more of us there are, the more interference we create, causing the more farther out of balance things get.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Balance in the natural world isn't actually the same thing as stationary or static. When you stand still your muscles are constantly making minute adjustments to keep you appearing to be sill as you breath. In the natural world if there is excess food, animals may birth more babies. When food is scarce, animals may produce less offspring or, if things are really rough, some animals can spontaneously abort fetuses so the mother will have a better chance of survival until food becomes more plentiful. A tightrope walker balances on the rope but isn't stationary. Not for a moment. But, as skilled as the balancer is, if they are interfered with, even a little bit, they can start to swing and sway more and more until the fall. Unless they get some help to allow them to reestablish that delicate balance.
No one ever claimed the climate was static. Our planet has had hot periods and cold periods. But always the changes were totally the work of natural forces. This time though, the forces of nature have, unexpectedly, have had a little extra help from (drum roll, please) Humanity! We are one interference clinging to one leg of that wobbly tightrope walker. The more of us there are, the more interference we create, causing the more farther out of balance things get.

Nice narrative - but without supporting data. However, I have data, which shows global warming and increasing CO2 are benefiting life on earth. Go on a cruise, golf, go swimming, or play tennis -- and enjoy our optimum climate.

[gorillarick]

"Our climate was never in balance -- which is why the climate keeps changing. "


In thermodynamics; we'd say it is impossible to have equilibrium (balance), because we are not in a closed system.

Yes, seems like we're currently on a positive trajectory of climate changing.
Lucky, blessed, or a little of both?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

Nice narrative - but without supporting data. However, I have data, which shows global warming and increasing CO2 are benefiting life on earth. Go on a cruise, golf, go swimming, or play tennis -- and enjoy our optimum climate.

Interesting... But these data also show global warming and increasing CO2 are adversely affecting human birthrates as well as populations of larger mammals. There will be more room on the courses or in the pools for the few children that are born but there will be no more whales to see on those cruises.

This would seem to show that fewer famine deaths are due to fewer children to begin with.... and according to your interpretation of the data, all because of increasing CO2.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

Nice narrative - but without supporting data. However, I have data, which shows global warming and increasing CO2 are benefiting life on earth. Go on a cruise, golf, go swimming, or play tennis -- and enjoy our optimum climate.

Whose "supporting data"?
Reminds me of the old joke about the guy who was warned about he coming flood, but he refused to evacuate. "Jesus will save me"; he said.
When the water reached his front door, a swamp buggy came by and offered to take him to safety. "Jesus will save me", he said.
When the water filled the first floor of his house, a boat came by and offered to take him to safety. "Jesus will save me", he said.
Finally, the flood drove him onto the roof. A helicopter came to save him. "Jesus will save me", he shouted.
When he asked Jesus, "why didn't you save me?" Jesus said "I had the weather service warn you. And I arranged the swamp buggy, boat and helicopter."

Please consider me, and others like me, to be the weather service. Disagree if you wish.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Interesting... But these data also show global warming and increasing CO2 are adversely affecting human birthrates as well as populations of larger mammals. There will be more room on the courses or in the pools for the few children that are born but there will be no more whales to see on those cruises.

This would seem to show that fewer famine deaths are due to fewer children to begin with.... and according to your interpretation of the data, all because of increasing CO2.

Births are a personal choice and nothing to do with climate, expect for the climate scare-mongering which drives the uneducated young to avoid births -- it's psychological. Note -- people are living longer. -- thanks to global warming and increasing CO2 -- which is why so many are moving south to warmer climates -- like the Villages.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

"Our climate was never in balance -- which is why the climate keeps changing. "


In thermodynamics; we'd say it is impossible to have equilibrium (balance), because we are not in a closed system.

Yes, seems like we're currently on a positive trajectory of climate changing.
Lucky, blessed, or a little of both?

It's well known that global warming saves lives and increasing CO2 grows more food. It's a win-win.