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Oct. 20, 2017 Goinia, Gois, Brazil

An unidentified student brought a pistol to class, killing two and injuring four. The shooter attempted suicide before being talked down by a teacher. He claimed inspiration from Columbine and the Realengo shooting.
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Oct. 17, 2018 Kerch, Crimea

A student at Kerch Polytechnic College, Vladislav Roslyakov, brought a shotgun and 150 rounds to his college, where he proceeded to kill 20 students and staff and wound 70. Vladislav was an avowed fan of Columbine shooters Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, participating in several online fan communities.
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Mar. 13, 2019 Suzano, Brazil

Two former students of the Professor Raul Brasil State School, Guilherme Taucci Monteiro and Luiz Henrique de Castro, went to the school and opened fire. They killed five students, two teachers, and themselves, as well as wounding eleven. They killed Monteiro's uncle prior to attacking the school.
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Mar. 15, 2019 Christchurch, New Zealand

Brenton Tarrant, a reported white supremacist who publicly espoused anti-Muslim sentiments, attacked two mosques. He killed 51 and wounded 49. Tarrant awaits trial, which will likely begin in 2020.
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September 20, 2021 Perm, Russia

18-year-old shooter Timur Bekmansurov brought a shotgun to Perm State University in the city of Perm, where he killed 6 and wounded 43. Statements from the shooter and public investigation revealed no terrorist connections, and no clear political or religious motivation.
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. We need tougher penalties for all crimes including the death penalty for murder,
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I am not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the NRA meeting being held in Orlando this week (I believe) is a GUN FREE ZONE

So why do you think that might be? If they believe guns are safe and everyone should have one, why not at their annual parade?
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The above are just mass shootings from 1996 to 2021. We can see this happens in other countries, some with VERY strict gun laws.

Let's not pretend taking guns from law abiding citizens will change what terrorists, criminals, or nutjobs do.

At least in the US there is a good chance a good guy will stop the violence with his own firearm. Like the Border Patrol Agent did in Texas.
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I am not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the NRA meeting being held in Orlando this week (I believe) is a GUN FREE ZONE

So why do you think that might be? If they believe guns are safe and everyone should have one, why not at their annual parade?
I would like to see your source for this. Mi e came from Timeline of Worldwide School and Mass Shootings

Rules at the venue or for insurance.

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Almost correct.

Hunters in Japan can have guns.

The low murder rate is culture driven, not gun control driven.
Exactly. That along with the sad state of our mental health system and the HIPPAA laws that prevent agencies from being informed of people with mental illness.
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The above are just mass shootings from 1996 to 2021. We can see this happens in other countries, some with VERY strict gun laws.

Let's not pretend taking guns from law abiding citizens will change what terrorists, criminals, or nutjobs do.

At least in the US there is a good chance a good guy will stop the violence with his own firearm. Like the Border Patrol Agent did in Texas.
Just take the assault weapons, nobody wants the guns from law-abiding citizens. By the way, you have way too much time on your hands - takes a long time to do this much research.
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. We need tougher penalties for all crimes including the death penalty for murder,
Hear this quote frequently, just wondering if the GUN was not readily available, and time was given to the mad person, would mass killing happen, maybe not.
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A hypothetical president of america could
1. Summon all the governors of all 50 states to a conference proposing to pass legislation to subsidize their armed national guards to protect the school children employing metal detectors and other technology.
2. He could issue executive orders to make it so.
So why not?
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I am not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the NRA meeting being held in Orlando this week (I believe) is a GUN FREE ZONE

So why do you think that might be? If they believe guns are safe and everyone should have one, why not at their annual parade?
Assuming this to be true, the venue could choose to make the area a gun free zone. While there are specific areas in which guns are prohibited by law (federal buildings-even the parking lot of the post office, schools, etc.), any business can choose to make their area "gun free". By the by, most (I am hesitant to say all without the facts) gun retailers require any handgun or rifle to be unloaded and encased before entering their business.
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Assuming this to be true, the venue could choose to make the area a gun free zone. While there are specific areas in which guns are prohibited by law (federal buildings-even the parking lot of the post office, schools, etc.), any business can choose to make their area "gun free". By the by, most (I am hesitant to say all without the facts) gun retailers require any handgun or rifle to be unloaded and encased before entering their business.
I believe the reason it is a gun free zone is due to a Secret Service requirement since Trump will be speaking. I think all venues where current and former Presidents speak are gun free zones. I've been to NRA events in the past and was not required to leave my firearm or have it unloaded.

As to gun stores, the policies vary. Some allow you have have your loaded firearm on your person if you have a CCW permit. Others don't allow them to be uncased and require them to be unloaded and still others have no requirement at all.
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