[Dantes]

Yes we need travel documents to go state to state can’t wait until we change our flag to USSA United Socialist State’s of American
Not!

[allsport]

They need the vaccine also because their immunity is short lived while the vaccine works longer.

[allsport]

The joke is that he wants the cruise industry back and they require the vaccine. Oxymoron or just plain old moron?

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

So, if the airlines mandate it, what then?

You will probably be doing a lot of driving as they will probably put themselves out of business.

[Bigmo93]

I am totally opposed to vaccine passports. While we can’t control what other countries may require, we can in this country. It is against our God given rights guaranteed in the Constitution, to force individuals to put a chemical in their bodies just to be able to move around the country. I don’t want to be the Guinea Pig for a new and unproven technology. The simple fact is, if you take the vaccine you’re protected. If you don’t, then it’s your problem if you get sick and potentially die. However, the government has no right to force this decision. We are already moving way too fast to be the next Soviet Union.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

So, if the airlines mandate it, what then?

Someone will sue, it'll go to SCOTUS, where it will most likely be found to be unconstitutional...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

True, but many people would like to travel beyond Florida.....

DeSantis' mandate is for use in Florida... Not "beyond Florida"...

[bfarmer3]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

I'd like to respectfully throw something out there for discussion and perhaps we can learn a bit from each other.

Our governor has said he will prohibit vaccine passports which would require us to prove we've been vaccinated in order to gain access to some businesses, offices, or restaurants.

I find it interesting because it speaks to how we all want the best for our country; we just approach it in different ways. Conservatives are not fond of government interference in general, but they support this proposal. Liberals are generally okay with government regulation but do indeed want a vaccine passport which DeSantis is opposing.

Just goes to show modern American life is not all cut and dried. We all have to give a little.

If you want to respond but feel the need to be belligerent or snarky, please move on to the next thread. Thanks.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Says He'll Ban Vaccine Passports

You are definitely off base here. I am conservative and do not want the government or anyone else to stick their nose into my business. The idea of a vaccine passport is Orwellian. If you have your shot why do you care if I have one or not? It's none of your business.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

I agree, but really isn't it common sense?
Think about it, you got the vaccine, you HAVE the card, just show it. Almost like getting proofed at a bar....prove your status.
But then there is the issue of losing the card, damage etc. ( I'm sorry, but whomever designed it wasn't thinking straight)...won't fit in my wallet, now thats going to lead to curled edges, putting it into pants pocket, purse pouch, all which will increase damage to it, or leaving on dresser etc,etc...all because of design. Maybe it should of been laminated like our licenses?
Better yet, maybe we all should be tatoo!!!!!
(Talk about stirring a pot)

Anyway way, got my vaccine, got my card...I'm proud and if you wanna see it, I'd be happy to flash you.😁

PLEASE NO!

Those cardboard cards will be forged in record time...

[stanley]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

Someone will sue, it'll go to SCOTUS, where it will most likely be found to be unconstitutional...

Let's hope so!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Those particular healthcare "experts" need to have their licenses revoked (if they even have a license).

The "garden-variety" flu is estimated to cause 35,000 US deaths per year. Covid is known to have caused nearly 500,000 deaths last year over and above the normal number of deaths expected in a single year. Whatever Covid is, it is NOT a garden-variety flu.

500K people died "with" Covid, not "due to" Covid...

[Just jimmy]

People are already forging vaccine cards and negative COVID tests. The passports will be the same. Don’t kid yourself.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Mimarsha

I definitely support showing vaccines were given! Just like a Drivers License or Village ID but saving lives at least for the next 6-9 months. This thing is NOT over yet!

You really think it will only be required for the "next 6-9 months"?

Once you give up a freedom, try getting it back...

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

naw, you are missing the point. Covid, a worldwide pandemic, has killed more people in 12 months than HPV, Flu, Shingles, etc has in 50 years.

And many countries will require it anyway - plus airlines, cruiseships, etc...

Reality is, I'm a fan of the Governor, but this policy - having the vaccine and the passport - is the fastest way to get the world on track

How can anyone be a "fan" of DeathSantis?

[nick demis]

Wasn't there a country that required papers to move around their country in the late thirties and early forties?
No thank you, I like my independence and freedom.