[WelchNH]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The W.H.O just said it's 'rare' for asymptomatic people to spread the coronavirus!
So after all the endless guilting that has been done to people that refused to wear masks, because they we’re not sick, and knew that masks were ineffective anyway, we now find out that asymptomatic people rarely spread the disease!
Another major change from what we were initially told!
When are people going to accept that we have been fed incorrect data and supposed facts from the get go?

Well, it appears that either the original reporter who did the story or the doctor was originally quoted (Dr Maria Van Kerkhove) was imprecise in her language or the reported did not understand the distinction. This is being widely reproted today, although I had heard the clarification. "Asymptomatic" refers to Covid-19 victims who never experience any symptoms- this was the cohort that the doctor felt was "very rare" of spreading the virus. People who experienced mild symptoms" were definitely at risk of spreading the virus- before their symptoms appeared. Language matters and people in authority have a duty to be precise in their language. As far as wearing masks, I feel it's better to be safe than sorry

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by pamhobbs

Florida just experienced a 4000 new cases surge in spite of attempted minipulation downward by gov. The smart thing is to be cautious and follow nonpartisan guidelines until we know we are on the right track back to normalcy.
Thanks n7

Please provide sources and corroboration for this alleged "manipulation". And not just hearsay.

[BarryD]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The W.H.O just said it's 'rare' for asymptomatic people to spread the coronavirus!
So after all the endless guilting that has been done to people that refused to wear masks, because they we’re not sick, and knew that masks were ineffective anyway, we now find out that asymptomatic people rarely spread the disease!
Another major change from what we were initially told!
When are people going to accept that we have been fed incorrect data and supposed facts from the get go?

Less than 24 hours later, WHO convened a special news conference to walk back its comments, stressing that much remains unknown. But the comment from Monday had already spread widely and been seized upon by conservatives and others to bolster arguments that people do not need to wear masks or maintain social distancing precautions.

[Schaumburger]

Originally Posted by dtennent

As a scientist for nearly 50 years, I can tell you that the beginning stage of any research effort is often marked by blind alleys, rethinking of previous results in light of new data, and dealing with naysayers. From the outside, it looks messy and chaotic. From the inside, dealing with the disappointing results of today leads to a new experiment which provides progress for tomorrow. Given the number of labs from around the world who are working on a new vaccine and potential treatments, I am hopeful that we will have a solution in 18 months. Even with that there is a very good chance that the first vaccine will not be as effective as we would all like. This won't mean that the scientists are incompetent but rather that science is a difficult and often frustrating subject.

I am just thankful that I never had the talking heads looking over my shoulder during my career.

Very sensible post...so hoping an effective vaccine will be ready before 18 months.

[Nanny32162]

No one has seen COVID-19 before. The medical profession and scientists are learning as we go along. Medicine is a combination of science and art. Did wearing a mask harm you? I think the masks are a good idea to prevent many common diseases from spreading, especially the common cold. There are far more important things to grumble about than wearing masks.

[ffresh]

For those of you who believe that the published stats on Covid deaths/infected are etched in granite and factual, permit me to provide the following, which is typical of the manner that many states have handled their reporting (for a myriad of reasons - mostly political and financial )

The Facts: Dr. Ngozi Ezike, Director of the Illinois Department of Public Health, recently stated that, even if it's clear one died of an alternative cause, their death will still be marked as a COVID death.
“If You Die of a Clear Alternative Cause, It’s Still Listed As A COVID Death” – Dr. Ngozi Ezike – Collective Evolution

The video of the above is being scrubbed from the internet, as so much that doesn't uphold the narrative but a bit of research will verify this fact!


Fred

[Benitacathcarb]

After criticism, WHO clarifies stance on asymptomatic virus transmission

“ Less than 24 hours later, WHO convened a special news conference to walk back its comments, stressing that much remains unknown.”

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The W.H.O just said it's 'rare' for asymptomatic people to spread the coronavirus!
So after all the endless guilting that has been done to people that refused to wear masks, because they we’re not sick, and knew that masks were ineffective anyway, we now find out that asymptomatic people rarely spread the disease!
Another major change from what we were initially told!
When are people going to accept that we have been fed incorrect data and supposed facts from the get go?

[Curtisbwp]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The W.H.O just said it's 'rare' for asymptomatic people to spread the coronavirus!
So after all the endless guilting that has been done to people that refused to wear masks, d r they we’re not sick, and knew that masks were ineffective anyway, we now find out that asymptomatic people rarely spread the disease!
Another major change from what we were initially told!
When are people going to accept that we have been fed incorrect data and supposed facts from the get go?

Unfortunately people listen to and BELIEVE what they hear from television performers who disguise themselves as "Investagative journalists" very few people look beyon their nose. Two things to look up are 'operation mockingbird' and 'the business plan ala Prescott Bush'

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Ginpappas

It's amazing how many people don't understand that science is complicated and when we have a new virus there is a steep learning curve as we try to navigate how contagious it may be or how and when it's most dangerous or what the mortality may be. Scientist and medical people are doing their best to keep us alive so instead of listening to someone on TOTV or my uncles third cousin on facebook, I think I'll keep relying on and trusting them while we try to sort it out.

The myth is WHY?- when intelligent medical USofA Doctors point out the ambiguousness and confusion caused by the W.H.O. that people reject US Doctors that say to KEEP YOUR MASK ON and stay apart, that the science-deniers beat their chests and say, "I'll believe what I want to believe even if it kills me and you".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The W.H.O just said it's 'rare' for asymptomatic people to spread the coronavirus!
So after all the endless guilting that has been done to people that refused to wear masks, because they we’re not sick, and knew that masks were ineffective anyway, we now find out that asymptomatic people rarely spread the disease!
Another major change from what we were initially told!
When are people going to accept that we have been fed incorrect data and supposed facts from the get go?

Facts ----the graph of Fl. cases is STEEPLY going UP by 1,000 new case/ day. Deaths recently are fairly flat in Fl.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Facts ----the graph of Fl. cases is STEEPLY going UP by 1,000 new case/ day. Deaths recently are fairly flat in Fl.

People identified with new cases of Covid-19 have increased by about a thousand cases each of the three prior days, but deaths nationally have fallen under a thousand per day for each of the prior days.

I watch it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Here is a study published a few days ago that says the opposite, asymptomatic spread is responsible for 40-45% of cases.

One of the more insidious features of the new coronavirus behind COVID-19 is its ability to settle into unsuspecting hosts who never show signs of being sick but are able to spread the virus to others.

In a study published June 3 in the Annals of Internal Medicine, researchers at the Scripps Research Translational Institute reviewed data from 16 different groups of COVID-19 patients from around the world to get a better idea of how many cases of coronavirus can likely be traced to people who spread the virus without ever knowing they were infected. Their conclusion: at minimum, 30%, and more likely 40% to 45%.

Nearly Half of COVID-19 Cases May Be Spread Asymptomatically | Time

You are driving a good point HOME and a high-quality German piece of machinery HOME -----Vaaarrrrooommmmm!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life

No one can cheat death, when it’s your time it’s gonna happen!

You can cheat death if you have a stylish Mickey - Mask on.

[lakegage]

Amen to that!

[gadaboutgal]

Florida is definitely trending back up in cases. My opinion: I don't think it's because of more testing. The "curve" really has never straightened or gone down. https://www.wesh.com/article/coronavirus-florida-covid-19/32791789