[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Whitley

It may be that it is very difficult to get information like this out to the public. There is a DR John Campbell on YouTube who has been speaking about the virus for two years now. He has become quite a verbal gymnist, attempting to get information out withot falling prey to the censorship.

Let me get this straight - government censorship is pushing worthless Covid vaccines that are unnecessary because washing out the nose is the REAL answer. OK, so that means that all those body bags that we saw in NY City on TV were because those people failed to wash out their noses often enough?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Whitley

I do not understand your reply to the original post below

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid View Post
Who to believe? We have been lied to so often.

You are not suggesting that it is acceptable to be lied to by our country because Russia and China lie more to their population. I'm sure we do not want to base our rights to freedom and transparency on the behavior of Russia and China.

Really.......I am saying that there are indeed some lies floating around in the US, especially on the dark web. But, the MAGNITUDE of lies told to US people is literally nothing compared to the lies told in the non-free world, like Chin and Russia.

My post was very straightforward.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Altavia

The risk of heart disease from COVID/long VOVID is ten fold higher in the unvaccinated - pick your poison.

Discussed this with said sibling and they would rather die from the disease than die trying to avoid it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Is someone working on a conventional vaccine for covid?

Yes. Dr. Hotez of the U. of Texas, a World Famous Pediatrician that specializes in tropical diseases. He and another Doctor created a "conventional" vaccine that is designed for use in 3rd world counties. It is less effective than the mRNA vaccines used in the 1st world, but it can be produced in a low-tech way there. DR Hotez was on TV just about daily at the peak of the Delta variant here in the US. He is hard to miss. He is a nice guy that wears a bow tie.
........Incidentally, he predicts that the US has been TOO QUICK to take Covid off ITS radar screen because he expects a surge to happen in the winter when people up north spend more time INDOORS - and in the midwest where vaccination rates are LOWER.
........wow, I hope that Dr Hotez is aware of "Nasal Irrigation" techniques.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

I can’t believe people take medical advice from a bulletin board.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Altavia

The risk of heart disease from COVID/long VOVID is ten fold higher in the unvaccinated - pick your poison.

Hi. Long Covid; is this something that can be tested for, or is it strictly self reporting?

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes. Dr. Hotez of the U. of Texas, a World Famous Pediatrician that specializes in tropical diseases. He and another Doctor created a "conventional" vaccine that is designed for use in 3rd world counties. It is less effective than the mRNA vaccines used in the 1st world, but it can be produced in a low-tech way there. DR Hotez was on TV just about daily at the peak of the Delta variant here in the US. He is hard to miss. He is a nice guy that wears a bow tie.
........Incidentally, he predicts that the US has been TOO QUICK to take Covid off ITS radar screen because he expects a surge to happen in the winter when people up north spend more time INDOORS - and in the midwest where vaccination rates are LOWER.
........wow, I hope that Dr Hotez is aware of "Nasal Irrigation" techniques.

I keep hearing that natural immunity is the Cadillac of protection. I would have thought a traditional vaccine (one that uses a live virulent or attenuated virus would be the most effective. I would think offering a traditional vaccine would change the minds of quite a few unvaccinated people to get the shot.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Really! Ten Fold? What study was that in? I also have questions about Long Covid. Is this something that can be tested for, like covid, or is it strictly self diagnosed?

I posted a link earlier to a study summarizing around 20 studies on this subject.

Google "COVID Heart Disease" to see what many hospitals/researchers are reporting.

Diagnosis is a group of symptoms at this point.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Is someone working on a conventional vaccine for covid?

Yes, Novavax is similar to flu vaccines.

Novavax'''s COVID-19 Vaccine: Your Questions Answered > News > Yale Medicine

Novavax COVID-19 Vaccine, Adjuvanted | FDA

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes. Dr. Hotez of the U. of Texas, a World Famous Pediatrician that specializes in tropical diseases. He and another Doctor created a "conventional" vaccine that is designed for use in 3rd world counties. It is less effective than the mRNA vaccines used in the 1st world, but it can be produced in a low-tech way there. DR Hotez was on TV just about daily at the peak of the Delta variant here in the US. He is hard to miss. He is a nice guy that wears a bow tie.
........Incidentally, he predicts that the US has been TOO QUICK to take Covid off ITS radar screen because he expects a surge to happen in the winter when people up north spend more time INDOORS - and in the midwest where vaccination rates are LOWER.
........wow, I hope that Dr Hotez is aware of "Nasal Irrigation" techniques.

…and high colonics!

[Koapaka]

Originally Posted by Whitley

It may be that it is very difficult to get information like this out to the public. There is a DR John Campbell on YouTube who has been speaking about the virus for two years now. He has become quite a verbal gymnist, attempting to get information out withot falling prey to the censorship.

Dr John Campbell is an EXCELLENT SOURCE of data that has been confirmed and validated within the medical community. He and I saw eye to eye from the beginning, EXCEPT for the vaccine. He, thankfully, is humble enough to question what the stats are showing now vs what he blindly accepted from the beginning. He is a true, honorable man that has helped MANY with TRUTH as it becomes apparent to him and as statistics prove. Still unjabbed, still alive, still COVID free. Go to YOUTUBE and watch his videos, he uses NOTHING except peer reviewed data and allows you to see what/where to search yourself for the truth.

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Once they were found out and made the news, they now claim that since their new strain only killed 80% of the mice it was tested on and not 100% like an earlier variant, it was not gain of function. Thank goodness we have fact checkers to clear that up.

So why be doing these dangerous test? Playing with the devil.

Who fact checks the fact checkers?

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

Dr John Campbell is an EXCELLENT SOURCE of data that has been confirmed and validated within the medical community. He and I saw eye to eye from the beginning, EXCEPT for the vaccine. He, thankfully, is humble enough to question what the stats are showing now vs what he blindly accepted from the beginning. He is a true, honorable man that has helped MANY with TRUTH as it becomes apparent to him and as statistics prove. Still unjabbed, still alive, still COVID free. Go to YOUTUBE and watch his videos, he uses NOTHING except peer reviewed data and allows you to see what/where to search yourself for the truth.

He is an honorable man, not afraid to change his teaching as facts come out. It is ridiculous that people are censored from reporting facts.

[Whitley]

Somewhere someone posted that you are more likely to get a heart condition from virus than the vaccine. This could mean there is something both have in common that causes heart issues. I would propose the possibility that it is the spike protein. Has anyone read anything that identifies the cause for the heart issues being experienced? Does the Mrna vaccine move throughout the body or remain in the shoulder muscle? Because of my history I tend to relate things to cancer, where my life was saved by injecting poison in my body to kill the cancer. I experience other side effects, but am alive. Has any study been published that looks at the spike protein in the Mrna vaccine as the reason for the reported heart issues? Just a topic of interest.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Somewhere someone posted that you are more likely to get a heart condition from virus than the vaccine. This could mean there is something both have in common that causes heart issues. I would propose the possibility that it is the spike protein. Has anyone read anything that identifies the cause for the heart issues being experienced? Does the Mrna vaccine move throughout the body or remain in the shoulder muscle?

Because of my history I tend to relate things to cancer, where my life was saved by injecting poison in my body to kill the cancer. I experience other side effects, but am alive. Has any study been published that looks at the spike protein in the Mrna vaccine as the reason for the reported heart issues? Just a topic of interest.

Good question and on the right track. Basically, it is an overreaction of the immune system.

The reaction can be much stronger if you have COVID than the vaccine.

And can happen for many non COVID/vaccine reasons.

What is heart inflammation?

"Vaccines produce a protein that triggers an immune response in the body. With an immune system response, there’s a very low risk of developing myocarditis — a type of heart inflammation that tends to be mild and self-resolving. The COVID vaccine in particular very rarely causes a serious autoimmune response.

An individual is much more likely to get myocarditis from COVID-19 than from the vaccine due to the stronger immune response triggered by the viral infection.

For this reason, getting vaccinated is much less risky than getting infected with regards to myocarditis."