Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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I guess that means he IS qualified to be the next Democrat President. ;D
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Too much information on Rielle Hunter, John Edwards' friend!!
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To me it does not matter the party, but we better, in this country, start to worry a bit about morals and the character of our President and the candidates. While most of the sex stuff is private stuff, the lying and deceiving speaks directly to the character of a man.
We need to vette these folks, and despite what some on here have said to me, their associates speak to the candidates character as it does in "real life" !!!! |
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Bucco
Ditto your comment. Unfortunately by the time of the NEXT presidential election this sad affair(pun intended) will be a resume enhancement. Benj |
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This affair is copied directly from the Gingrich, Giuliani and McCain play book. Nobody can top Rudy, however, heck, he married his cousin!
McCain admitted to extramarital "affairs"?? So Bucco, are multiple affairs even better "resume enhancements"??? http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2...cains-honesty/ |
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This affair is copied directly from the Gingrich, Giuliani and McCain play book. Nobody can top Rudy, however, heck, he married his cousin!
McCain admitted to extramarital "affairs"?? So Bucco, are multiple affairs even better "resume enhancements" http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2...cains-honesty/ __________________________________________________ ___________________ You obviously are trying to make this partisan and I said very specifially in my post that not matter the party....and I meant it. I am not sure what point you are trying to make but you are nt going to bait me into some kind of name calling of other folks. I simply said we better vette the candidates totally because I believe that morality and associations count. We all make our own decisions once we do that, but my point was that it is something that should be considered. I try hard not to get into deep conversations with folks like you who are into partisan politics. I prefer to discuss the pros and cons of the ISSUES, one of which is character. |
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Good luck, Bucco. I think that's a rare commodity in Washington.
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Good luck, Bucco. I think that's a rare commodity in Washington.
__________________________________________________ ________________ Not sure exactly what you mean but while there are many of those who never listen..only talk and are party first americans, most, at least from my experience are open to discussions and want what is best for this country. The internet has caused such great divide in the country as a whole. We come on here and on this net you can find validation for any viewpoint you have. It does not have to be true, or even reasonable but if you want to validate your position you can find something on this net to help you ! I respect all opinions and will listen to them as long as they will listen to me (and not dismiss me ![]() Example...I supported the invasion of Iraq and still do. I totally was and am opposed to the management of that invasion. There are people who tell me that is contradictory or even worse but I do not see it. I can support a candidate on one issue and not on another. Those who blindly support without discussion are proclaiming sainthood I suppose on thier candidate ! John Edwards, to me anyway, no matter the issues is a loser due to the character issue. I suppose I will be made fun of again (assocations do not count) but that is important to me. Not the only issue, mind you, but in this case a candidate for President not only cheated on his wife, but lied during the campaign. |
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One thing that can be said about all Presidents, from George Washington to George Bush, and future Presidents, and all candidates, past and future ones; they were, are and will be human, with all the faults and weaknesses that go with being human. Do we disqualify someone from being President because of a human weakness but then accept them to be president of a large company, or a doctor who is going to operate on us? I suggest we concentrate on what we hire (elect) the President to do which is to manage the Executive Branch of Government according to the Constitution. Therefore, we should concentrate on the issues involved in running the Government. If I eliminate everyone whose personal life actions I may disagree with, I eliminate everyone in the human race... except me.
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![]() Posts: 41 Re: John Edwards Admits To Having An Affair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One thing that can be said about all Presidents, from George Washington to George Bush, and future Presidents, and all candidates, past and future ones; they were, are and will be human, with all the faults and weaknesses that go with being human. Do we disqualify someone from being President because of a human weakness but then accept them to be president of a large company, or a doctor who is going to operate on us? I suggest we concentrate on what we hire (elect) the President to do which is to manage the Executive Branch of Government according to the Constitution. Therefore, we should concentrate on the issues involved in running the Government. If I eliminate everyone whose personal life actions I may disagree with, I eliminate everyone in the human race... except me. __________________________________________________ __________ EXCELLENT POINTS. For me the difference here (Edwards) is that he LIED and in addition his family was really a large part of his "schtick" during the campaign. NOBODY is perfect for sure....I know that this will get some folks going, but give G Bush some credit...when he was asked while running if he ever took drugs, he simply said I am not going to answer that. Given you presented a valid and interesting comment, and if I am digressing too much, feel free to slap me down.....last evening (I think) a poster told me that is was not important about Sen Obama's associates (I apply the same criteria to Sen McCain) but the subject was Sen Obama. I mentioned that one of my concerns was the character of most if not all of those who trained him and advised him early on. I was told that associates do not count. What do you think ? |
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Mike H,
I don't get to vote on who's going to be hired to be president of some company, I do get to vote for who's going to be the leader of the greatest country on the planet. Your line of thought makes it ok for anyone who might be a good manager to be President. What about a child molester? is that ok? Our society is harmed every time we cop out about personal issues. To me character matters. a belief in God matters, Morals matter, being an honest trustworthy person matters. Someone who has the nerve to get up and look us in the eyes and lie to us and his family, that matters to me. Screw me once..... I think you let our"leaders" off a little to easy. And before you Bush haters come back and Chant the mantra Bush lied let me tell you that the kool-aid dispenser is in the building. Benj |
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I agree the people with whom you surround yourself says something, but it has to do with judgement not morals. Keep in mind that I was referring to personal issues, not legal issues. Yes, you do get to vote on who's a company president. If you own stock, mutual fund shares, etc., you get a vote that could eventually impact the decision as to who becomes president of a company. You also "Vote" everytime you do or don't buy that company's product. I do not disagree with your concerns about morality, I, too, have such concerns. I believe infidelity is wrong (my personal belief) and shows bad judgement, lying about it shows really bad judgement. I want my President to show much better judgement. I believe morality is a very personal thing and what is immoral to me may not be immoral to you. If we believe our past Presidents, beginning with G. Washington, didn't have some personal (moral) issues that today would have eliminated them from Presidential consideration, we don't know history or choose to ignore it. I would rather have a President who had/has some (what I consider) personal issues and does a good job as President, than one who is a "Saint" and is a bad manager of the country. I, of course must decide the significance of those personal issues, as must you.
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This is my first time to post in this political forum and I vowed I never would because of the kind of polarized statements people make because they are believers in this person or that party...
However. I thought Edwards was a decent man. I had breast cancer four years ago and it is not only frightening and awful to deal with, but you are disfigured and your sexuality is at least temporarily maimed depending on the response of your husband or partner. The very last thing that I would have needed at that point is for my husband to have a NEW sexual relationship with someone. It would have made me feel that I was absolutely neutered, worthless, betrayed, abandoned, ready to die. Elizabeth Edwards has had a recurrence of the damned disease now. It doesn't look good for her. I am just so discouraged with all this. This is so sad. I am so hurt that someone that appeared to be genuine is a loser. At least in my book. |
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Gracie, I agree with you 100%. I can't imagine the pain Elizabeth must feel.
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