[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by justjim

I understand that in the early days of TV driving a golf cart at night was prohibited. I'm not suggesting that we go back to no night driving in your cart but just making a statement. This issue has several Threads and hundreds of opinions and posts and even a traffic engineer's report. My guess is that those that want stripping done will in the end finally get it done.

What does the traffic engineer report have to say?

The historical Villages area used to have quite unsafe golf cart paths IMHO. I can understand the no golf cart driving at night.

[Mleeja]

Marking of the MMPs will happen someday. However, it is probably going to take a serious accident on the MMPs and a lawsuit before it happens. Then there will be "crowing" of how much it is costing TV to settle the lawsuit and they should have taken action sooner...

I don't care how much you slow down to adjust to the driving conditions, there are still areas on the MMPs where it is very difficult to see the path due to landscaping, elevation and curvature of the path against oncoming traffic (both carts and cars on street). Throw in a little rain, and it makes it real difficult. Staying off the MMPs at night or during rain is a hollow argument relied on by the "personal responsibility" group. We can't enjoy our lives after 5:00 pm or during inclement weather according to them... You're not going to change the minds of the this group.

In the meantime, slowdown and hope you do not get rear-ended. Make sure your cart is well illuminated so others can see you. Take the streets if you can find ones that parallels the MMPs. They are wider, generally better marked, illuminated and have less traffic. And when on the MMPs at night or during rain, make sure to watch for the other crazies out there.

[goodtimesintv]

Taltarzac, they do not want to hear fact and reality presented by people who are not in bed by 7:00 and actually drive these paths regularly after dark for reasonable, desirable things like going to the town squares.

Older threads show they'd rather listen to "engineering reports" by strangers who don't even live IN The Villages, much less drive a golf cart on city streets and multimodal lanes instead of golf courses.

They will favor ANYTHING that goes along with "Nobody's going to rip ME off for $3 per year!!!!!"

Mleeja was right. Future deaths/dismemberment lawsuits will have them running around blaming the "greedy rich" developer for not doing it before. They have all the answers, but you don't see anyone among them finding anything close to TV's time tested recipe for a city like this anywhere else.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Taltarzac, they do not want to hear fact and reality presented by people who are not in bed by 7:00 and actually drive these paths regularly after dark for reasonable, desirable things like going to the town squares.

Older threads show they'd rather listen to "engineering reports" by strangers who don't even live IN The Villages, much less drive a golf cart on city streets and multimodal lanes instead of golf courses.

They will favor ANYTHING that goes along with "Nobody's going to rip ME off for $3 per year!!!!!"

Mleeja was right. Future deaths/dismemberment lawsuits will have them running around blaming the "greedy rich" developer for not doing it before. They have all the answers, but you don't see anyone among them finding anything close to TV's time tested recipe for a city like this anywhere else.

Lawyers and other other interests can usually find reports and the like to strengthen either side of just about any issue.

What I read seems to make the slippery surface of this new kind of covering marking the lines people will stay on the other side with the major problem. It will result in lawsuits from bicyclists and pedestrians who slip on this new surface. How about the roads where lines are now here in the Villages that are County Controlled? Do pedestrians and bicyclists slide on these? How often do these need to be re-painted?

[biker1]

I don't really see the need to try to discredit the engineering report or the engineer who wrote the report. Unless you have some evidence of incompetence by the author of the report, it presumably was written by somebody competent to render such as opinion. It was but one piece of the decision making process. Probably the only one that wasn't political.

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Taltarzac, they do not want to hear fact and reality presented by people who are not in bed by 7:00 and actually drive these paths regularly after dark for reasonable, desirable things like going to the town squares.

Older threads show they'd rather listen to "engineering reports" by strangers who don't even live IN The Villages, much less drive a golf cart on city streets and multimodal lanes instead of golf courses.

They will favor ANYTHING that goes along with "Nobody's going to rip ME off for $3 per year!!!!!"

Mleeja was right. Future deaths/dismemberment lawsuits will have them running around blaming the "greedy rich" developer for not doing it before. They have all the answers, but you don't see anyone among them finding anything close to TV's time tested recipe for a city like this anywhere else.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by biker1

I don't really see the need to try to discredit the engineering report or the engineer who wrote the report. Unless you have some evidence of incompetence by the author of the report, it presumably was written by somebody competent to render such as opinion. It was but one piece of the decision making process. Probably the only one that wasn't political.

Riiiiiiiiiight.

[bagboy]

Doug Deakin and the boys up north have moved on from spending money on MMP striping to now looking into spending millions of dollars for land on route 42 for additional recreational facilities. Why spend $400,000 of other peoples money when you can spend $4,000,000 , or more.

[rubicon]

Well the OP got the natives restless again.

I have been driving the multi-modal paths with a need for headlights and in all kinds of weather for over 9 years now and have been guided by foilage and grass on either side of the path that defines well the width of the path. Reflectors work well for curves, areas where contour cause them to jut out and where the multi-modla path have center medians . The problem with night driving is more of headlights hitting you head on and stripping is not going to solve that issue.

One poster wrote slow down when driving at night and when it rains. "Speeding too fast for conditions" is often cited as a contributing factor when an accident occurs. If I truly believed side stripping would be worth the investment then I would reply in the affirmative . But the problem with multi-modal paths is intrinsic in its label

[JoMar]

The community opposed to stripping have also been heard. Why, when we lose the ability to do what we want to do we look to government to fix it. Then, when government tries to fix something someone else wants we complain that government is too invasive. So glad they aren't stripping. My only flexibility would be that if a CDD wants to Stripe because the majority of those living there want it then stripe it but then they pay for it and they also accept all the liabilities. Don't ask CDD11 to pay for something in CDD8. Simplistic yes, doable, probably not, acceptable to CDD8, h*** no.