[Tsego58]

Everyone is aware of limited capacity for restaurants when they open. I am trying to understand this. Has anyone else seen the grocery stores. I understand that is very essential but it so bad they're now using signs to navigate. Hardware stores were deemed to be essential and are packed people falling over each other to get essentials? This looks like people just want something to do. These are insiders that are comfortable going to essential places because they think if it's open it's ok to go there. I am in the villages because I thought it was the best place to be for retirement. This is the biggest nightmare I have ever seen. I was told living here are buying a lifestyle and live like a millionaire. The lifestyle is shopping, golf?, games, eating and golf cart driving. This is all wrapped up in a bubble that gives the county and the Morse family the real lifestyle and definitely financial power.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by devorejh

What a ridiculous response by you. We are Americans and we do not give up our freedom’s. Maybe it’s you that needs to leave the villages. And I’m serious!

Donns999 apparently thinks the government is trying to run his life and take away his choices. This is what the Michigan Militia is all about. Look them up. They are a paramilitary group that doesn't want any government interfering with their lives. They were the ones who initially stormed the governor's office in Michigan in protest over the lockdowns there. Dons999 said he was quitting the forum and TV. I was suggesting a lifestyle he might be interested in.


I am perfectly happy living in TV and don't mind the government taking steps to keep me healthy. And I'm very serious.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Please tell me where they are playing pickleball in other locations, and if those locations are available to us. I agree with you about the risk of pickleball vs the risk of congregating at a swimming pool.

I would have no issues with playing pickleball, but what possible logic would lead you to believe that a pool activity would have a higher risk factor?!? Being in a pool is the only environment where you are bathed in sanitizer. According to the CDC, not only can’t the virus spread in a properly maintained pool, they also state that the level of chlorine in a pool effectively kills the virus.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by davem4616

well the OP achieved it's objective...pitting everyone against one another and this thread has turned nasty

LOL You want to see nasty? Go read any of the threads about golf, softball, pickleball, swimming etc etc. All I did is contrast those shaming contests with some actual science.

1. You are more likely to catch coronavirus by shopping in a supermarket than playing golf, softball etc (backed by science linked in OP)

2. Zero risk will not be achieved until herd immunity or production of 100% effective vaccine. (backed by science linked in OP)

3. Virus is going to keep rolling around the world for two years or so (unless 100% vaccine) so be prepared to stay at home for that amount of time if you believe outdoor sports like golf, softball etc are too risky.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/sites/def...nt-part1_0.pdf

4. You are a hypocrite if you proceed to shame others for outdoor sports when you yourself enter supermarkets, which is far more risky.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

The point golf should of been shut down from day one. That the point. ALL outdoor activity including the one that’s money maker.

Please share with us the numerous scientific studies that show coronavirus outbreaks on golf courses.

[gregcharlesnelson@gmail]

play ball

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by bd20166

Thats 6 weeks of great sun and outdoor activities you missed out on.

Please read more carefully. I said I have not stepped foot inside a building other than my home in 6 weeks. I continue to swim in my pool, catch rays, go for walks etc. I will start playing golf again this week because I have concluded, based on science, that the risk is very low.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by CFrance

If you're thinking of leaving TV, you might want to check out the Michigan Militia. I think their beliefs are in line with yours. I'm being serious, actually.

That's a very unkind reply to the poster who was simply stating his feelings. The Michigan Militia is a fringe radical group that does not represent mainstream Michigan conservatives.

It was telling that the media chose to focus on the 12 to 15 idiots dressed in fatigues with their rifles as "representative" of those who protested last Friday at the Michigan State Capitol Building instead of the several hundred average citizens who shared the poster's sentiment.

[Manhoopty]

Wearing a mask is a sign of Submission, not Safety.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

217 cases in Sumter County with a population of probably 135,000

But panic and fear mongering have won the day in The Villages.

Lets all be sheeple and wear our useless masks...walk down the aisles like big brother tells us too...

Amazing how quickly people obey without thinking

We are obeying because we are capable of critical thinking. It is the people who aren't obeying who are mindless.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

We are obeying because we are capable of critical thinking. It is the people who aren't obeying who are mindless.

It is not mindless to question whether a particular rule is based on science and is rational.

Take facemasks for instance. First they told us you don't need a facemask, they won't protect you etc. Now they have rules of mandatory facemasks in some places. Did the way the virus spreads change, did masks suddenly start working?

Many government entities have made some very stupid rules. For instance, the State of New York made an actual law forbidding Nursing Homes from rejecting covid 19 positive seniors. How'd that work out?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Thankyou for smoking

[hav7979]

Originally Posted by Swoop

I would have no issues with playing pickleball, but what possible logic would lead you to believe that a pool activity would have a higher risk factor?!? Being in a pool is the only environment where you are bathed in sanitizer. According to the CDC, not only can’t the virus spread in a properly maintained pool, they also state that the level of chlorine in a pool effectively kills the virus.

the pools in TV do not have any chlorine in them.. they are salt pools

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

So at least you admit to being a "Go outsider".

Now a "Stay at homer" should duplicate this post with that point of view. I'm guessing one would be about as convincing as the other...and likely change equally as many minds.

Only if they're in a state of denial. The OP has provided irrefutable facts, and a healthy dose (pun intended) of common sense

Fred

[valuemkt]

Originally Posted by hav7979

the pools in TV do not have any chlorine in them.. they are salt pools

Saltwater swimming pools draw on dissolved salt in the water to generate chlorine. The salt cell or generator utilizes a process called electrolysis to break down or separate the salt also known as sodium chloride or NaCl in the water