[bluedog103]

[QUOTE=Larryandlinda;236365]Duh... 'passing through'?
like someone was on a cross-state golf cart trip?
maybe the cart fell from the sky liker Santa/
rules is rules.
We TV bicycle clubbers follow rules of motor vehicles when on roads and cart rules when on rec paths.
We can also become -pedestrians when we dismount and walk the bikes.

In FLA and most states we must follow motor vehicle rules.

Please remember to watch out for bicyclists - every one of them that is on a bike is allowing those

Duuhh...This thread is entitled "Cars have the rightaway, don't stop!"
This implies to me that we're talking about cars. If that's the case, they can be driven by anyone from anywhere, even cross country. If that's the case, they could just be passing through.
It's doubtful that they fell from the sky.

[bluedog103]

Originally Posted by Larryandlinda

Duh... 'passing through'?
like someone was on a cross-state golf cart trip?
maybe the cart fell from the sky liker Santa/
rules is rules.
We TV bicycle clubbers follow rules of motor vehicles when on roads and cart rules when on rec paths.
We can also become -pedestrians when we dismount and walk the bikes.

In FLA and most states we must follow motor vehicle rules.

Please remember to watch out for bicyclists - every one of them that is on a bike is allowing those in carts and vehicles more road to enjoy

L and L

Duhhh...This thread is entitled "Cars have the rightaway, don't stop!". This implies that we're talking about cars. If that's the case, they could be from almost anywhere, even cross country.
I doubt if they fell from the sky.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by thegreenerside

I find that the bicycle groups easily take up an entire lane. Many times I have come in behind a large group of cyclist that were riding 3 and 4 wide down Buena Vista as well as the neighborhood streets. As a Bicyclist that follows the motor vehicle rules please move over to the right when vehicles approach from behind.

I am not a cyclist. I believe they have the right to the whole lane if they so choose. By Florida law you the passing vehicle have to move to the left lane to pass, so the cyclist does not have to move to the right. ( what ever that means)

[BogeyBoy]

From the Florida statute pertaining to bicycles: (They can't use the whole lane unless they are moving at the "normal speed of traffic".


5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:

1. When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.

2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

3. When reasonably necessary to avoid any condition, including, but not limited to, a fixed or moving object, parked or moving vehicle, bicycle, pedestrian, animal, surface hazard, or substandard-width lane, that makes it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge. For the purposes of this subsection, a "substandard-width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.

(b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a one-way highway with two or more marked traffic lanes may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of such roadway as practicable.

(6) Persons riding bicycles upon a roadway may not ride more than two abreast except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles. Persons riding two abreast may not impede traffic when traveling at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing and shall ride within a single lane.

[BogeyBoy]

Best advice is to pay close attention year round when you driving - whether it is a car, golf cart, bike, truck, or roller blades.

This week -

Had someone lay on the horn as I slowed to allow a golf cart to merge.

Observed a large truck stopped dead in a traffic circle, appeared to be looking at the map for directions, was not only blocking the traffic circle but one of the entrance/exits from same.

Had a golf cart pull right out in front of me near a gate where they clearly had a stop sign. Luckily I was paying attention, had to slam on the brakes to keep from making him part of the gate.

Followed a construction vehicle with trailer - no brake lights or turn signals, have seen this more than once before.

Now, if everyone would obey all the rules and regulations we'd have to find something else to talk about.

[Bogie Shooter]

I stand corrected.

[otherbruddaDarrell]

Since we are getting a bit side tracked on this post, let me put in my 2 cents worth.
I understand that bikes are allowed on the roads but single riders going in roundabouts makes no sense to me.
I am talking beach cruisers, single speed bikes etc. Why not use the trails that are right next to the road a lot of time?
There is no way I would pedal my big butt down the road with the traffic we have here, except in an organized group of riders.
AND.....the only time I see the bike riders stop is if it is a red light instead of a stop sign.
While delivering oxygen in TV I came up on a single rider on a roundabout going the wrong direction and almost nailed him!

[ceejay]

pedestrians? Yesterday, we encountered a jogger in the golf cart lane running right toward us...she didn't even look up as we pulled in the road to avoid a collision! We have also seen people strolling (walking, not dancing!) in the golf cart lane when the sidewalks were on the other side of the street

[ohiogolf]

In the population of bicyclists, just like the population of golf cart drivers and motor vehicle drivers, there are those who flaunt the laws as well as common sense. We have threads on this site about golf cart riders going the wrong way and letting their pre-school grandkids drive the carts, and threads about car drivers violating all common sense rules in the circles. The bike clubs in TV stress safety to their members. Each ride starts with a comment and "heads up" on safety on the road. Each monthly club meeting includes a presentation on safety and road rules. Bikers have every right to ride on the road as long as they abide by the vehicular laws as stated previously. I ride with the clubs and ride alone and am one of those "fancied dressed riders". I try to observe all safety rules and get really mad when I see riders violate the rules because I know that it upsets vehicle operators. Please don't punish me for those idiots. TV is a wonderful environment for all forms of exercise including bicycling.

[Avista]

What is it about people walking or jogging in the golf cart path when there is a sidewalk right there. Very Dangerous!

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by ohiogolf

In the population of bicyclists, just like the population of golf cart drivers and motor vehicle drivers, there are those who flaunt the laws as well as common sense. We have threads on this site about golf cart riders going the wrong way and letting their pre-school grandkids drive the carts, and threads about car drivers violating all common sense rules in the circles. The bike clubs in TV stress safety to their members. Each ride starts with a comment and "heads up" on safety on the road. Each monthly club meeting includes a presentation on safety and road rules. Bikers have every right to ride on the road as long as they abide by the vehicular laws as stated previously. I ride with the clubs and ride alone and am one of those "fancied dressed riders". I try to observe all safety rules and get really mad when I see riders violate the rules because I know that it upsets vehicle operators. Please don't punish me for those idiots. TV is a wonderful environment for all forms of exercise including bicycling.

Do bike clubs stop at stop signs or do they go through them as a group? The law says they must stop at all stop signs. I'm thinking they don't.

[Patt]

The blogs on cars vs. golf carts right-of-way are informative and hope it helps many who are relocating here or spend just a wee bit of time like we have done thus far.
Now here's another problem - ROUND-ABOUTS:
We have 2 lanes in our round-abouts. When wanting to turn right at the 1st street is no problem, but drivers find it difficult to cross over if they are in the inside lane and want to exit at the 2nd or 3rd street. Which lane should we be traveling in? Are there actual guidelines for these lanes?

[ohiogolf]

Do all cars stop at stop signs? I recall you posting a funny video of cars going through stop signs with the road runner music playing. Do all golf carts observe stop signs? come visit my neighborhood and stand at the stop sign and count the ones that do not. Again, there are bikers that flaunt the rules of the road just like there are car driver and cart drivers that do. No excuse for any of them.

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by ohiogolf

Do all cars stop at stop signs? I recall you posting a funny video of cars going through stop signs with the road runner music playing. Do all golf carts observe stop signs? come visit my neighborhood and stand at the stop sign and count the ones that do not. Again, there are bikers that flaunt the rules of the road just like there are car driver and cart drivers that do. No excuse for any of them.

The closest I came to an accident in my 3 years was a driver coming out of the tunnel on Morse, near the first tee of Havana Kilimanjaro. I was going south on Morse, headed to Colony Cottage. As I was almost down the hill, tunnel on my right, out comes a cart, quick look right, quick look left and go, rolling stop at 2-3 MPH. I have no idea how I missed them or the far tunnel wall, but ended up in the tunnel without a scratch to anyone. They said sorry and left, I learned to drive a lot more defensively.

I agree folks roll stop (all mode of transport) in lots of places, but in a tunnel? There is simply not enough time to look both ways and process the info coming out of a tunnel.

[katezbox]

Originally Posted by Avista

What is it about people walking or jogging in the golf cart path when there is a sidewalk right there. Very Dangerous!

I walk 4 -5 miles daily and use portions of the cart path as I walk. The sidewalks in TV (or at least the parts near us) change from one side of the road to the other frequently - necessitating crossing busy streets to remain on the sidewalk.

I prefer the golf cart (multi-modal) paths that are wide with room to accommodate pedestrians as well as carts. That said - I always follow the rules (walkers on the left) and keep my head up to be sure I am not in harm's way (or your way).