[jnieman]

Originally Posted by rayschic

All of our gates have a button that you can press to activate the gate. Will this gate be any different ? Won't the Stonecrest people just be able to push the button ?

That's a good point rayschic I wonder if they will put the red button at the gate. It might defeat the purpose of the gate if they do. When I moved here I remember someone telling me that none of the golf cart paths were supposed to be accessible by those outside the Villages. I assumed this was because they wanted to keep the novelty of the golf cart travel inside our bubble.

[linko38]

Originally Posted by gomoho

My thoughts as well - I would much rather deal with additional cart traffic than additional car traffic that is absolutely out of sight during snowbird season. And what on earth are they doing to our paths, paths, paths? Does driving on something meant to be driven on create a problem. I still don't get it. Why the animosity???

Yep my thought exactly. I live in Stonecrest. I have traveled via golf cart maybe 5 times this whole year. One time was to meet people who were looking to buy a house here in the area. I recently talked to a lady who was renting in the Villages when the wall went up. She was so turned off she bought in Stonecrest. She saw the hateful attitude toward Stonecresters and decided "The Villages" was not too friendly. Only to fellow Villagers it seems. Yet I attended a talent show at Stonecrest and sat next to a gentleman from the Villages. He thinks this is all ridiculous. Lifes to short to be vindictive and shallow. In the words of Rodney King..RIP "Can't We All Just Get Along"?

[linko38]

Originally Posted by leftyf

How do TV businesses feel about the wall? It will only hurt them if Stonecrest can't get there. What about the Town Squares? Will TV residents pick up the loss of business? Stonecrest will still have Walmart and Aldi's. I see nothing to be gained by this wall for anybody.

The Duke energy path is still in question. This gate might make other businesses think twice. What happens if Harbor Chase puts up a fence so NO one can get through? Hmmm? Then everyone is miserable! It could happen.

[Number 6]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I'm not much on post Beatles solo careers. I like some of it, it's just that I focus on the years '57-'70. There's enough there to learn about.
Like Raymond Jones.

So do you think Raymond Jones is/was a real person?

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by rayschic

All of our gates have a button that you can press to activate the gate. Will this gate be any different ? Won't the Stonecrest people just be able to push the button ?

I believe it was stated that this gate will not have a button, so TV residents need to be sure they have a gate pass in order to return. Or wait for someone who does and tailgate them through the gate.

[Ooper]

Looking at the majority of complaints, they seem to be from the Stonecrest residents because now they can't get to our area via golf carts. They have dining and golf facilities that the public can use and The Villages' residents can't get their via golf cart. Why is what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander?

[Cajulian]

Gracie and Ooper, you are both wrong on several points. You can get access at the Stonecrest gate just by stating that you are using the Golf Facilities or eating at the Club House.

So yes, Villagers do have access into Stonecrest facilities and do use the Golf course regularly due to the busy courses in the Villages. And yes they do use their own carts.

Also, Gracie you felt it would be nice "if there were a 1000 less golf carts" during the winter months when it is busy. Really!! Did you know there are only 1900 homes in Stonecrest? That would mean you think that Stonecrest creates golf cart traffic of 1000 carts!!

Now that sounds very silly to me. That's about 50% of the carts in Stonecrest.

Way too much hypocrisy for me. Stonecrest people don't create any problems that should be worried about.

Too much worry about nothing.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

Gracie and Ooper, you are both wrong on several points. You can get access at the Stonecrest gate just by stating that you are using the Golf Facilities or eating at the Club House.

So yes, Villagers do have access into Stonecrest facilities and do use the Golf course regularly due to the busy courses in the Villages. And yes they do use their own carts.

Also, Gracie you felt it would be nice "if there were a 1000 less golf carts" during the winter months when it is busy. Really!! Did you know there are only 1900 homes in Stonecrest? That would mean you think that Stonecrest creates golf cart traffic of 1000 carts!!

Now that sounds very silly to me. That's about 50% of the carts in Stonecrest.

Way too much hypocrisy for me. Stonecrest people don't create any problems that should be worried about.

Too much worry about nothing.

Welcome to the forum.

Where one lives is a their own personal choice.

I feel protective and concerned with the traffic in The Villages because that is where we chose to live.

Today as I was driving the golf cart I noticed that the population has begun to increase signaling the start of the busy season. At many crossings, golf carts were lined up.

We have puh-lenty golf carts belonging to Villagers at this time of year. We don't need any more. This is the time of year when people are more frequently in accidents and heavier traffic doesn't help.

We are building here at an astonishing rate and many people have chosen to live here in The Villages.

I ask that all people who drive golf carts and cars be very, very careful.

We all want to be here next year at this time. Happily in Stonecrest, and happily in The Villages.

[Ooper]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

Gracie and Ooper, you are both wrong on several points. You can get access at the Stonecrest gate just by stating that you are using the Golf Facilities or eating at the Club House.

Yes!... But to do this, you have to drive your cart down the road past the car wash and through the main gate as you would a full sized auto. You cannot get there using the golf cart gates behind Walmart as they require an opener. If you have to use their main gate, why would one want to go that route in a golf cart? The Stonecrest residents are more than welcomed to drive their autos to our town squares, restaurants, and golf courses and spend their money. There is nothing they need, nor anywhere they need to go in The Villages that requires them to use our multimodal paths. Just my opinion.

[golf2140]

I don't think issue was all about Stonecrest. I read where the new care facility built next to The Villages was advertising cart access to The Villages. There must be 200 residential units in that building. If I took all the risk to build The Villages, I wouldn't want an outsider to ride on my parade. Just my thought.

[linko38]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

So, then......the Stonecrest residents must now use their automobile?
Or what?

Out of curiousity, as we've received some adverts from that community, my husband just MapQuested the distance from a certain house in Stonecrest to Waterfront Inn, Lake Sumter Landing. See bel
"""According to MapQuest, it is 9.9 miles and 21 minute drive. BUT this IS WRONG, by cutting through The Villages, you can cut the miles and time in half.
MapQuest took you on the "Highway System", thus a longer drive.
I would guess about a 5 mile drive and 10 minutes (No traffic)"""
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Via the highway, it was approximately nine miles. He does believe, however, that if someone really wanted to take their golf cart, rather than use the highway as MapQuest directed......there are streets "within" The Villages that they could zig zag to get to Lake Sumter Landing..........or wherever they wanted to end up.

For that distance WE OURSELVES would most definitely use our air conditioned car. Nine miles seems a long distance in a golf cart in the heat.

I do not think the gate or the wall or whatever it truly is will stop those folks from shopping and dining in The Villages.

Having been a merchant himself, with a thriving retail store, had he announced that he would only serve people in our small town of 16,000 souls............and turn away all of the ones who came down from the ski mountain towns a half hour away........or over the border small towns in N.Y State or over the border in Massachusetts (We are close to Williams College in Williamstown, MA........about fifteen minutes away).........he'd never have been as successful a he was.

He drew customers from a huge vicinity by advertising in all of their small newspapers as well as our larger daily paper, plus t.v. and radio ads.

He welcomed them from all the surrounding areas.......and beyond.

So, he can relate to the merchants within the three squares in TV as well as those out on the highways which are open to all people, correct???

However, to put things in perspective, we both understand that if all of a sudden people from 15 miles away began all walking their dogs on our little short cul de sac street.........it would get dicey.

Or, if they connected the end of our street to a distant neighborhood.......and then everyone wanted to take our street as the "shortcut" to our hospital rather than go down the other road and take the present hospital access road...............then we would lose our quiet sleepy little cul de sac neighborhood and peaceful intimate atmosphere.

We always can understand everyone's viewpoint.

In our humble opinion, all viewpoints are valuable.....even if they diverge.

We've lived long enough to know that not everyone thinks alike and that we and they are basically coming from their own "life experience"; thus, we respect all viewpoints.

If everyone thought the same, how boring would that be?

p.s.
A last wondering...........when I looked up application forms for The Villages Lifelong Learning College........at the bottom it said that all applicants must be 18 years and older?

So, that would then include 18 year olds from the surrounding towns that are not 55+ communities?

Would Stonecrest residents be allowed to take classes at the Lifelong Learning College within the Villages???

I notice it is near the high school and charter school......probably on that highway where the restaurants, etc. are........it's been awhile.

Stonecrest also seems to be right below Lake Weir which does have a nice sandy beach for the grandkids........plus a casual seafood restaurant right at the beach.

Any Stonecrest residents out there???? who read this?

Someone mentioned that they do not have more than one golf course?
I think I read that they have an indoor pool plus several outdoor pools and several rec centers plus several golf courses.

The home we were looking at (similar to others we've looked at) had a birdcaged solar heated pool and large lanai, outdoor shower, on three fairways of the golf course.......

Over 2,000++ sq. ft. of home, golf cart garage plus two car garage, open floor plan.......3 bedrooms,2 bathrooms.......really nice Jacuzzi tub, huge bathroom........plus guest bath.

I think it was the 16th, 17th and 18th fairways........out in the back yard, so to speak.

$289,000 asking price, low taxes.........definitely would be DOUBLE that in TV. It supposedly has a manned gate. Will have to take a look when we come.........soon. We will look at everything and then make up our minds.

You owe it to yourself to check us out. My husband and I have lived here almost five years. We love it. More house for your money. Quiet and peaceful. Lots of activities. You won't be disappointed.

[buggyone]

Basically, let the Stonecrest residents get upset that they cannot drive a golf cart onto our private multi-modal trails. Do I care about them? No!

If they wanted Villages amenities, they should have bought in The Villages.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by tucson

People living in Stone Crest and Del Webb Spruce Creek CAN use the Lifelong Learning College :-) !! (For about $5.00 more than the TV residents)

Thank you Tuscson. Appreciate that.

I figured being it was on a main highway, it might just be available to all, but was not certain.

Not to mention that the age limit was 18 years old and up, with TV being an age restricted community.........some attendees of the L.L.C. must come from outside the "campus" as some call TV, meaning all the myriad of surrounding towns and 55+ communities, not just Stonecrest.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by linko38

You owe it to yourself to check us out. My husband and I have lived here almost five years. We love it. More house for your money. Quiet and peaceful. Lots of activities. You won't be disappointed.

Quiet and peaceful sounds exactly like our own long lived personal "lifestyle".....

We will most definitely give it a look when we arrive......our plan is to look at everything.
Thank you.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Rollie

graciegirl, I don't understand your thinking. No to golf carts, but yes to more cars. Please explain.

Rollie

Rollie I happen to agree with GG. Its not about the golf carts Its about the in your face fact that we can escape certain costs and still have the same Lifestyle experiences.

The Developer is right in preventing this sort of abuse because of the aforementioned . How does a sales person address that question "why should I pay $XXX when I can have the same things living down the street and paying $XXX

I wish he could build an entire wall around entirely around The Village. On the other hand I understand agree and welcome anyone to the public squares and if it were not done would encourage it

Frankly the golf cart thing is not important to me. I only use my golf cart for golf and often walk the executive courses and when I do I drive my car over to the course. but the "free mentality thing"does concern me because of the issue of abuse. where does it stop. This isn't a little matter this is a basis for gradual but continuing abuse that can and will affect quality of life here...if I can drive the cart paths why can't I use the executive courses, the swimming pools, the ..........................it is the way some people think

If I can wear casual clothes to work why can't I wear sandals and cut off jeans what's the diff mentality