[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I was being a bit tongue in cheek or ironic.

Fair enough.
Was it also irony when you stated that you violate the letter of the law?

[DonH57]

I believe we have all had many times where we wished, " Where is a police officer to see what this jackass just did"? Sure enough if by the slightest by chance there will be day the officer happens to look up from his computer monitor among other distracting factors in his cruiser when you stopped within seconds ago and think " He didn't stop for that sign". You cannot tell me that can't happen.

[VT2TV]

Look at all the different opinions on here on just this 1 subject. Everyone has different opinions. I personally stop at stop signs, and I think you are wrong if you don't. But what you think, or what I think doesn't really matter. Right now, it is the law, and the reason we have laws is to protect us. If you don't like the law, then work to change it legally--not just interept it anyway you chose. Until the law is changed, you are wrong if you do not stop at the stop signs--you, me or whoever. You can try to rationalize it , but it doesn't make you right. Change the law or obey it, or at the very least-don't try to justify it when you don't obey it

[karostay]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I don't understand your logic.
We don't get to pick and choose which laws we obey based on whether we personally think the law is fair.

[graciegirl]

I have told this before. I still can't get over it.

I was stopped waiting to cross the street in my golf cart when someone in a golf cart came up behind me and went around me. When I mentioned before that I noticed he was a Yankee fan by an emblem on his golf cart someone took offense. No offense meant.

[TraceyMooreRN]

Last night about 730 pm there was a deputy sitting near the maintenance entrance to Turtle Mound, watching golf cart trail stop sign area near putting range. I think it is great. If you break the law and you get caught--your own fault. Not lucky or unlucky. IMHO

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I don't understand your logic.
We don't get to pick and choose which laws we obey based on whether we personally think the law is fair.

I agree. Maybe we should design new stop signs that say:
STOP
IF YOU WANT TO.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

First of all, I don't think that we should be lumping stop signs and stop lights together.

Secondly, someone who has been in an accident and did not follow the rules is #1 going to lie about it and #2 deserves what they get. If someone claims to have rolled through a stop sign at a reasonable and collided with another car, they are lying.

And you can prove this?
I think the jury is against your rolling through stop signs.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by TraceyMooreRN

Last night about 730 pm there was a deputy sitting near the maintenance entrance to Turtle Mound, watching golf cart trail stop sign area near putting range. I think it is great. If you break the law and you get caught--your own fault. Not lucky or unlucky. IMHO

So if someone does a slow roll through as stop sign and there are no police in the area are they not lucky?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by CFrance

And you can prove this?
I think the jury is against your rolling through stop signs.

No, I can't prove it and we are not in a court of law.

Yes, juries might be against a rolling stop in a specific case. I would think that that might depend on the jury's own driving habits.

But, we keep going back and forth on this thread between what is safe and what is the law. I agree 100% that the letter of the law says that we must come to a complete stop at every stop sign. I don't agree that there is anything dangerous about a very slow rolling stop in many cases. There are situations, by the way, where I do come to a full stop. If I don't have a clear view as I am approaching the intersection or if I'm in a busy traffic area I will come to a complete stop.
I live in a neighborhood where there is very, very little traffic, 20 mph speed limits, houses that are set well back from the intersections, with little or in most cases, nothing to obstruct your view, and a lot of stop signs. By the time I'm approaching the intersection, I have slowed down to under 10 mph. In most cases, I can see 1/4 to 1/2 mile up and down the street that I am about to cross or turn on to. I don't have to come to a complete stop to see that it is perfectly safe. I honestly believe that I'm not doing anything dangerous and I think that if any of you were in the cart, golf cart or bicycle with me you'd agree.
But I can see that we different opinions on this and we're never going to agree so this thread should really come to an end.

[CFrance]

I wasn't trying to be a smarta** By "jury," I meant the general opinion of the forum on this topic. I agree with you, there will be no consensus.

[Keysers]

I have almost been hit a couple of times both driving and walking at the corner by City Fire at Lake Sumter Landing. I am shocked at how many car and cart drivers barely even slow down, mush less stop, at the flashing red light whether it is their turn to proceed or not.

[karostay]

Originally Posted by TraceyMooreRN

Last night about 730 pm there was a deputy sitting near the maintenance entrance to Turtle Mound, watching golf cart trail stop sign area near putting range. I think it is great. If you break the law and you get caught--your own fault. Not lucky or unlucky. IMHO

I may be wrong.I recall it happening one other time
The sheriff's dept can't enforce any violations there it's private property not county, municipal or state property

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

.... I agree 100% that the letter of the law says that we must come to a complete stop at every stop sign. I don't agree that there is anything dangerous about a very slow rolling stop in many cases. ...But I can see that we different opinions on this and we're never going to agree.

Yup, I think you're right.
There are people who follow the law.
And there are people who break laws according to personal preference.
And never the twain shall meet.

[BobnBev]

Perhaps someone should map out the stop signs where there is an unobstructed view, and petition the appropriate authority to change the stop signs to "YIELD" signs. Before you suggest that I do it----I'm not in TV right now.