[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I have been thinking of whether to respond and have decided too.

Due to the virus we are staying in a lot more than we would have thought and spending more time here and posting quite a bit (even though think my frequency of posting is down in past couple of months.

I complained about the Good Doctor this past week. What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is none of my business but do resent that mainstream TV is throwing their opinions at us.

Some posters on here are rather pointed at the way they talk to others but do think that I respond in a very respectful manner and would even invite most people to join me in the Village of Stu.

I don't watch television, usually. I don't subscribe to any streaming services either. I have no idea what the Good Doctor is, other than the reference here about a previous thread that was shut down. I can tell you though - it isn't "mainstream TV throwing their opinions" at anyone.

They're providing content to people who want to watch it. If it's mainstream, then they're also selling advertisements. There have been people kissing during prime time on TV for decades, it's nothing new. The only thing that's "new" is "who" is doing the kissing. If that offends you, then that's a reflection of YOU, not of the show you're complaining about.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't watch television, usually. I don't subscribe to any streaming services either. I have no idea what the Good Doctor is, other than the reference here about a previous thread that was shut down. I can tell you though - it isn't "mainstream TV throwing their opinions" at anyone.

They're providing content to people who want to watch it. If it's mainstream, then they're also selling advertisements. There have been people kissing during prime time on TV for decades, it's nothing new. The only thing that's "new" is "who" is doing the kissing. If that offends you, then that's a reflection of YOU, not of the show you're complaining about.

If you actually watched the show you would have a better idea of the point I was making.

[LG999]

There is a lot of nastiness that I have noticed getting worse over the last couple of years. I think people in general have become much more ugly and are not ashamed of it. They are teaching ugly and inconsiderate to their kids.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I have been thinking of whether to respond and have decided too.

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[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I have been thinking of whether to respond and have decided too.

That's the ticket. Village of Stu.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by FromNY

I use to enjoy learning about new things here in The Villages. Once a friendly place. Now after 18years the Kool-aid is flat and tasteless. The area has turned into what I moved away from. And I still miss the majestic Buffalo!

The herd of buffalo was truly amazing. A few people selfishly taking pictures inside their fences sealed their doom. The people were the problem, not the buffalo. Too bad.

[APovi]

[QUOTE=Boomer;1904434]
EXCERPT- I have been horrified to see the deluge of hatred, the bigotry, the complete arrogance -- including the irony of the name-calling that one name-caller, in particular, would see as elitist -- if someone disagreeing would say the same things.
"I saw a thread, since closed, that brought homophobia to the surface"
Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry, and Smear."

-Don't these sentiments (above) reflect the same opinions being condemned? Those who are against uncontrolled invasions/immigration are xenophobic, your quote= labels 'homophobes'.- So, anyone who disagrees with you has a 'phobia'?
Isn't it a waste of our time to 'converse' with people who share our opinions? Who can teach us what we already know?

[Lonnieme2]

Hello and thank you for the post. I agree with some who responded that social media has allowed people to hide behind a computer while saying things that they would never say to a person's face. The political climate and COVID-19 have added to the issue also. We should try to ask ourselves before hitting the "send" button the following things: Would I say this to the person's face? Will my words benefit the reader and add to the reason why most people move to The Villages?
I just read Boomer's post to my husband who unbeknownst to me had been reading the posts on this forum for four months before realizing that it was annoying him. His words not mine. He also just said, "I'm not looking for Mayberry RFD, but I am looking for some type of wholesomeness."
My husband and I plan to move to The Villages and I suppose were hoping to use this forum as a daily "fix" until we can leave Metro Atlanta in five years. My thought was also that by reading the various posts, we could be a step ahead by the time we move there. We visited for 10 days in July 2019, staying in a 3-bedroom house between Spanish Springs and Lake Sumpter but 10 days only gives a person a small taste of the good life.
Those who have not yet visited may be put off, thinking that some of the posts here are indicative of the mindset of Villagers. For me it is just a reminder that an escape from it ALL really is not possible. The people who we met during our short visit were thrilled to be alive and my husband kept saying how happy he was for each of them who had worked hard to get there.
Boomer, you are a great writer and I am sorry that this forum has robbed you of your joy. It would be nice if there were an outlet that better served you, by giving to you as much as you give to it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I have been thinking of whether to respond and have decided too.

Due to the virus we are staying in a lot more than we would have thought and spending more time here and posting quite a bit (even though think my frequency of posting is down in past couple of months.

I complained about the Good Doctor this past week. What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is none of my business but do resent that mainstream TV is throwing their opinions at us.

Some posters on here are rather pointed at the way they talk to others but do think that I respond in a very respectful manner and would even invite most people to join me in the Village of Stu.

In the Villiage of Stu

Populated by both the red and the blue

Liberals and conservatives

Hold hands at the Zoo

Just a friendly place

To own a house

And take up space

For the few bad people

Better bring some Mace! ............Tee, hee, .......that's all folks

[juddfl]

I like what you wrote. You hit it on the head. Thank you for your post.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't watch television, usually. I don't subscribe to any streaming services either. I have no idea what the Good Doctor is, other than the reference here about a previous thread that was shut down. I can tell you though - it isn't "mainstream TV throwing their opinions" at anyone.

They're providing content to people who want to watch it. If it's mainstream, then they're also selling advertisements. There have been people kissing during prime time on TV for decades, it's nothing new. The only thing that's "new" is "who" is doing the kissing. If that offends you, then that's a reflection of YOU, not of the show you're complaining about.

Good observation.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

quote: Being mean is one thing, but just because someone is snarky or sarcastic, does not make them a mean person.

I guess my question is why be snarky or sarcastic? Why not make your points in a straight forward manner without demeaning another person which I feel replying to a legitimate question or comment in a snarky or sarcastic way to be demeaning? We were all taught manners growing up. Why does being older absolve us from common courtesy?

"Dust to Dust". "The child is father of the man". Some say that older citizens seem to have lost their guard rails as they have aged - they have fewer inhibitions. I notice that at BOTH ends of the age spectrum that there are fewer inhibitions - in both children and the elderly. One has developing brainpower and the other has declining brainpower.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The herd of buffalo was truly amazing. A few people selfishly taking pictures inside their fences sealed their doom. The people were the problem, not the buffalo. Too bad.

coincidentally a few months later villas starting popping up in the buffalo pasture

[Marykess1802]

Originally Posted by Boomer

For the past several days, I have watched TOTV descend into a maelstrom, and I am starting to have no hope for the forum that has been a part of many of my mornings since 2007. I am in the habit of giving the opening page a scroll and posting, if finding a topic I want to be a part of.

I am not big on the number of posts. In fact, when I was nearing 100 posts, all those years ago, I sent a PM to Mr. Tony, the owner and admin, asking him to please delete some of them. I laugh about that now, but then, I was blushing to think how habit-forming TOTV was becoming for me.

Now, almost 14 years later, I have barely passed 4000 posts, and I admit, I also find that number to be a bit embarrassing because it represents time I could have used cleaning off my desk. But I have been holding onto the excuse that I write posts like some people crochet or do puzzles -- a hobby.

Like so many of you, I found TOTV when I was looking for anecdotal information about life in TV. I could find advertising, but that was it. A tenacious search led me to TOTV when it was in its infancy. In those days, we had some ups and downs, but the overall tone was helpful -- and often, just plain fun.

I know TOTV has changed owners since, possibly more than once. TOTV sold for the first time in 2011. I am completely serious when I say that had I known in time, I might have bought it. (I could envision possible tax write-offs -- along with maybe using my energy to sell ads from my office-in-the-home or by driving around in my white Honda with the Florida plates to corner the ad market. (I spent 35 years pitching literature so I must have been thinking maybe my experience could have been transferable. sigh)

We eventually bought a house in Hadley. But had my original impression of TV been the one now often put forth on TOTV, I never would have wanted to buy. We kept our Ohio house. Thank goodness.

I have debated about whether to write this because I am to the "what's the point" stage. There are probably those among us who, like me, have noticed that we have lost a lot of our posters who had been contributing helpful posts and fun, too, for a long time. (I think they must be smarter than me because I have been continuing to hang around.)

The overall tone of TOTV this past week has been over-the-top with ugly stuff. Although I do not personally know most of you, I have been horrified to see the deluge of hatred, the bigotry, the complete arrogance -- including the irony of the name-calling that one name-caller, in particular, would see as elitist -- if someone disagreeing would say the same things. I have seen the self-righteous flaunting of a version of "religion" twisted into having nothing to with kindness, mercy, love, and peace. (Remember that guy Jesus?)

I saw a thread, since closed, that brought homophobia to the surface with certain posters -- some of whom surprised me. As a longtime secondary teacher, I have wept for students who have committed suicide because of feeling their homosexuality could never be accepted by their families. I am grateful to see how times have changed for so many people. That has saved, and will continue to save, lives.

This morning -- in the email notice sent out to us a few times a week from TOTV -- there were at least 3 threads headlined that were destined to invite more ugly stuff. I had to wonder if those choices were made by an algorithm or were those kinds of threads chosen on purpose by an actual person -- for a numbers game.

As I end this saga, if you are still reading, may I suggest that you read "Declaration of Conscience" -- a classic speech given by Margaret Chase Smith on June 1, 1950, which she ends by calling out "The Four Horsemen of Calumny -- Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry, and Smear."

Boomer

PS: I am not kidding myself that anyone will actually do that homework assignment I just gave -- or even kidding myself that this thread will last -- or kidding myself that anybody is still reading this -- but I just had to say my piece -- or was it peace?

PPS: I don't know how that hat-tipping emoji ended up at the beginning of this post. I can't make it go away. I don't know how. So I guess I will just have to consider my hat -- and my hand -- tipped.

PPPS: Damn. And now a smiley face emoji has appeared out of nowhere. I must be bumping stuff because I am on my laptop. Believe you me, I am not smiling right now -- although I do feel better.

Well said, Boomer! My “scroll on by” finger is developing serious bursitis.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by juddfl

I like what you wrote. You hit it on the head. Thank you for your post.

Unless you hit reply with quote nobody will know what you are referring to.