[cunch]

YEA, and you should thank YOUR lucky stars that they do!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Rolling 2 mph, less than walking speed, thru a stop sign when nothing is coming is hardly a safety concern. It is just a money making machine for the county.

I agree 10,000%

Ridiculous.

I started watching for this when it because a big subject on this forum and I would say that 99% of the drivers that I observe safely roll through stop signs.

Yes, I know what the law says. What I am saying is that almost no one observes the letter of the law. The few that do are on here screaming about. I have lived in several states and countries and I have seen this behavior everywhere. The Villages is no different and if people are being ticketed for it, it is only because the officer is having a bad day or the local government needs the money.

On top of that the response of the officer in this case was rude, disrespectful, uncalled for and unprofessional. Every person stopped by LE should be treated with the utmost respect and referred to as sir or ma'am unless they give reason to be treated otherwise. I know that they deal with a lot of crap out on the streets. I know the job is very difficult and I also know that they are trained to treat the public whom they serve with respect.

[graciegirl]

There are those that follow the rules and think of themselves as rule followers. There are those who look for any way they can to go around the rules and think the person in authority is stupid, wrong, and not needed.

The reason that I was tough on my kids and saw that they saw the gravity of certain situations and made it really hard sometimes, is that I wanted them to realize I meant what I said. So that they would respect authority. I told them and my grandkids I wouldn't bail them out, literally or figuratively, and so far we haven't had to do so. I was the authority figure during the formative years because their dad was flying around all over a good deal of the time.

I have never had occasion to personally witness any failure on the part of law enforcement, although I know it does happen that they can be bullies. We knew that some teachers would be tough and unfair and difficult, and we told our kids they could vent and we would listen, but they must do what the teacher expected and we would not go in to defend them if they didn't. All of us have had superiors who were nasty as hell, but if we want to keep a job we have to learn to do what we are told and what is expected sometimes. Rules are there for a reason.

Stop signs mean Stop. In a very quiet neighborhood, it may call for a very brief stop. A curtsy.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Rollie

I'm just wondering how a cop should reply to "I haven't had a ticket if 50 years" Sorry, but I'm with Gracie on this one.

Rollie

Very simple. He should have said, "Well, I'm very sorry sir, but you didn't stop at the stop sign and in my judgement you deserve this ticket. If you think otherwise, you can plead your case in court. Have a nice day sir".

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Very simple. He should have said, "Well, I'm very sorry sir, but you didn't stop at the stop sign and in my judgement you deserve this ticket. If you think otherwise, you can plead your case in court. Have a nice day sir".

You are right. This is where saying " You lying sack of ****" is best left unsaid.

[Chi-Town]

If you want to hear abuse from an officer just get a speeding ticket in Wisconsin with Illinois plates.

[PennBF]

I also like Lt.Wolfe, BUT believe it is a disgrace to "entrap" Villagers in order to raise revenue. There are plenty of speeders, reckless drivers to fill the cash register of the local court. It would be interesting to see the statistics of accidents from Carts not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign within a Village. I think the lady who said she had not had a ticket in 50 years was probably telling the truth and the deputy answer was comical but the real problem was using the ability to trap villager's actually trapping them . Sort of sounds like the town north of Ocala that was charged with being a speed trap or the old Ludwicky, Ga. where it was a national disgrace. Hopefully the Sheriff or Lt.Wolfe will recognize the foolishness of this and stop the practice. By the way we have never been stopped for a traffic or moving violation in over 50 years.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Parker

For those of you so quick to take offense at an officer's harmless comment, remember that same officer might be the one risking his life to save yours.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

If you want to hear abuse from an officer just get a speeding ticket in Wisconsin with Illinois plates.

Well I'm busy this week....................................

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I also like Lt.Wolfe, BUT believe it is a disgrace to "entrap" Villagers in order to raise revenue. There are plenty of speeders, reckless drivers to fill the cash register of the local court. It would be interesting to see the statistics of accidents from Carts not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign within a Village. I think the lady who said she had not had a ticket in 50 years was probably telling the truth and the deputy answer was comical but the real problem was using the ability to trap villager's actually trapping them . Sort of sounds like the town north of Ocala that was charged with being a speed trap or the old Ludwicky, Ga. where it was a national disgrace. Hopefully the Sheriff or Lt.Wolfe will recognize the foolishness of this and stop the practice. By the way we have never been stopped for a traffic or moving violation in over 50 years.

You're right.

I would also add.
I think a golf cart seat belt law would help keep people safe but the suggeston will anger others. I also think a bike helmet law would help keep bikers safe but will anger others too. Enforcing these laws would raise revenue and also keep people safe more so then a rolling stop with a golf cart.

[PennBF]

Tomwed I agree with your points. We have a seat belt in our cart.I get a little frustrated with those that point to the risks that Officers take. Of course they do and we should all have deep appreciation for their dedication but that does not excuse this "trapping" citizens in order to raise revenue. So others should not lecture me that if I don't like this practice that I am "anti public service".
The Supervisors should assign them where they will do the most good to protect the public and sitting in a street in a Village waiting for an innocent cart driver to not come to a "total stop" at a inter village stop sign is not the best usage of an officer.

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I agree 10,000%

Ridiculous.

I started watching for this when it because a big subject on this forum and I would say that 99% of the drivers that I observe safely roll through stop signs.

Yes, I know what the law says. What I am saying is that almost no one observes the letter of the law. The few that do are on here screaming about. I have lived in several states and countries and I have seen this behavior everywhere. The Villages is no different and if people are being ticketed for it, it is only because the officer is having a bad day or the local government needs the money.

On top of that the response of the officer in this case was rude, disrespectful, uncalled for and unprofessional. Every person stopped by LE should be treated with the utmost respect and referred to as sir or ma'am unless they give reason to be treated otherwise. I know that they deal with a lot of crap out on the streets. I know the job is very difficult and I also know that they are trained to treat the public whom they serve with respect.

Well said.

Customer service in this job is no different than any other..There are risks and aggravations in a large percentage of jobs.

What ever happened to the yield sign, a lot of the stop signs could actually be replaced with a yield sign and be a lot more sensible .

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

Well said.

Customer service in this job is no different than any other..

What ever happened to the yield sign, a lot of the stop signs could be replaced with a yield sign.

We'll need a course put on about "safe yielding" by TV. Based on what I see in the rotaries, we could have mayhem on our hands.

Personally I prefer yield signs but few know the correct etiquette.

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Exactly. Oh, these kid cops!

I pay a lot to have the top of my head dyed bald!

[raynan]

I thought the bucket list comment was funny. I and I also think that running a stop sign is an accident waiting to happen. I've seen too many of them here between cars, golf carts and one of each. Not pretty and sometimes life-threatening. On the other hand, a neighbor was pulled over last week for "pausing too long" at the right on red at Morse and 466A where there have been many accidents. That one I just don't get.