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Old 05-07-2023, 07:19 AM
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Ahhh, someone who knows what it is like because they watch TV shows. Law enforcement is all encompassing. Yes, there are crimes like "shootings, armed robberies, assaults and the like," however there are two sides to that coin.

One side is the broken windows theory of policing. Google up James Q. Wilson for the details on that but the thumbnail is that if you address the small things, then they prevent big things.

On the other side of the law enforcement coin is safety. Many deaths occur due to traffic incidents. How do you lower the death rate from traffic incidents? You prevent or deter risky behavior. The riskiest? Speeding and drunk driving. How do you actually save lives? You write traffic tickets to deter risky behaviors.

You might want to go back to the living room, I heard "Hawaii 5-0" is starting. Before you go, tell me what you did for a career so I can second-guess and critique how it should actually be done based on my armchair quarterbacking.
I would say slow drivers cause more accidents than from drivers going faster than should be. We have more accidents here in the states going 70mph than the autobahn does at 200mph. I’ve been to Germany many many times and they are very strict on their driving laws where we aren’t. For example, most of us here in the states hate slow drivers in the fast (left) lane, in Germany, if you are in the left lane and you see a car approaching you many blocks back of you, you need you pull over. It would be so nice for every car, bike, golf cart driver/rider to adhere to this. Another law is if you have 5 (maybe it’s 7) or more vehicles behind you trying to get around you, you need to pull over and let them pass. How many times have we been the 10th car or golf cart behind a slow bike or car and they never pull over.
Back to car laws, you are not allowed to pass on the right. Which is common sense because the slow drivers should always be on the right. Another common sense law, no flashing of brights toward the car in front of you, because there should not be a slower driver in front of you.
Also, it is legal to go faster than the speed limit to pass someone, some states 15 or more mph faster.
IMO, slower drivers can cause more accidents than faster drivers
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Just a note here---FL does not have a State Police Dept. FL has a Highway Patrol. FL also has the FDLE - FL Department of Law Enforcement, that handles major crimes and assists municipal PD's. That's why they are called Highway Patrol Troopers, not Florida State Troopers. Did that clear things up?
Regardless of agency nomenclature, he claimed to be something that he is not and essentially represented himself as a high ranking member of an historically honorable profession in order to bolster his case or give the impression that what he was stating had more weight than it might otherwise.

If one pretended to be a fake rank of a fake SEALs squad, it not very dissimilar.
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:24 AM
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Written claims are prosecuted by the Federal Government if reported. In addition, media coverage recorded or taped can also be used. You need to do your research before your prevarication and plunge into mendacity. One liners don’t cut it in court.
"Written claims".............ridiculous. That can relate to anything.

Educate yourself:

Isn’t it always a crime to lie about military service?
In general, no. While it may be morally reprehensible, it is usually not a crime. However, the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Just a moment...) makes it a crime for someone to claim they received certain medals to obtain money, property, or some other tangible benefit. The law only bars false claims about certain military awards, including the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and a few others; and ONLY when someone makes a false claim about them to gain money or some tangible benefit from a crime. Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime. However, our office can investigate other crimes as long as it involves forging, altering, or misusing records from NARA in some way.
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:25 AM
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Nothing in tv takes place, including traffic enforcement, without the wizards of oz saying so.
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You just got someone in trouble for doing their job.....

The Wildwood Police Department’s new golf cart is officially on “patrol.”

Officer David Perry of the police department said the golf cart will strictly be used for community outreach and offers a way in which to “engage with the public.”

Villagers are likely to see the new golf cart in use south of State Road 44 and in the Brownwood area.

However, he said the golf cart will not be used to catch speeders or for other more-traditional law enforcement purposes.

“We’ve really had a good reaction to to the new golf cart,” Perry said.


Why broadcast that you won't be enforcing laws? There are some golf cart drivers out there that need a little fear.
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I would say slow drivers cause more accidents than from drivers going faster than should be. We have more accidents here in the states going 70mph than the autobahn does at 200mph. I’ve been to Germany many many times and they are very strict on their driving laws where we aren’t. For example, most of us here in the states hate slow drivers in the fast (left) lane, in Germany, if you are in the left lane and you see a car approaching you many blocks back of you, you need you pull over. It would be so nice for every car, bike, golf cart driver/rider to adhere to this. Another law is if you have 5 (maybe it’s 7) or more vehicles behind you trying to get around you, you need to pull over and let them pass. How many times have we been the 10th car or golf cart behind a slow bike or car and they never pull over.
Back to car laws, you are not allowed to pass on the right. Which is common sense because the slow drivers should always be on the right. Another common sense law, no flashing of brights toward the car in front of you, because there should not be a slower driver in front of you.
Also, it is legal to go faster than the speed limit to pass someone, some states 15 or more mph faster.
IMO, slower drivers can cause more accidents than faster drivers
It is not illegal to pass on the right in Florida:
can you pass on right in florida - Google Search
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:28 AM
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I will leave the issue with the commissioner alone since he will never admit he made a mistake. Too full of himself I’m guessing. Adults acknowledge if they were wrong.
Anyways, Police should enforce traffic laws. They can do that and protect the community from shootings and the like simultaneously. Some replies imply those are mutually exclusive which is wrong. It has been proven that enforcement of traffic laws has a direct impact on traffic crashes. unfortunately, it appears there are too many golf cart accidents in the villages.
Police will not pull you over and write a ticket for going 20.1mph in a 20mph zone. Those that state so are truly ignorant.
I am not an expert on florida law but typically a solid white line delegates a lane of traffic where no lane changes are permitted. A broken white line is used to allow lane changes. This can be seen in vehicle round abouts.
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Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime.
There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment...

Now, this coming week is a VERY big deal in Washington D.C., it is Peace Officers' Memorial Week.

Having known more than one who has died so people like Golden Eagles can call me a turkey and my posts idiotic and so he can live his idyllic life chasing little white balls on huge swaths of damaged ecosystem requires little. Simply a bit of gratitude, a hint of humility and an apology for insinuating he shared the honor of those who risk all so his words could have more weight in his attempt to shut me up, as he claimed.

Dead horse beaten.
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"Written claims".............ridiculous. That can relate to anything.

Educate yourself:

Isn’t it always a crime to lie about military service?
In general, no. While it may be morally reprehensible, it is usually not a crime. However, the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Just a moment...) makes it a crime for someone to claim they received certain medals to obtain money, property, or some other tangible benefit. The law only bars false claims about certain military awards, including the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and a few others; and ONLY when someone makes a false claim about them to gain money or some tangible benefit from a crime. Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime. However, our office can investigate other crimes as long as it involves forging, altering, or misusing records from NARA in some way.

Ah, the one who would argue with the wall. The bright-line is anecdotal evidence for prosecution. It can be prosecuted if anecdotal evidence exists. Do try a couple years of criminal law or higher before relying on google for your uninformed cowboy moves.
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Written claims are prosecuted by the Federal Government if reported. In addition, media coverage recorded or taped can also be used. You need to do your research before your prevarication and plunge into mendacity. One liners don’t cut it in court.
Could months ago, after I gave advice on ToTV.......I claimed "I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night". Hope I don't get reported.
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There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment...

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Yes............this is from your link: with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit,

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There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment...

Now, this coming week is a VERY big deal in Washington D.C., it is Peace Officers' Memorial Week.

Having known more than one who has died so people like Golden Eagles can call me a turkey and my posts idiotic and so he can live his idyllic life chasing little white balls on huge swaths of damaged ecosystem requires little. Simply a bit of gratitude, a hint of humility and an apology for insinuating he shared the honor of those who risk all so his words could have more weight in his attempt to shut me up, as he claimed.

Dead horse beaten.
Did you not read the text at the link you posted??
...with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit...
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There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment...

Now, this coming week is a VERY big deal in Washington D.C., it is Peace Officers' Memorial Week.

Having known more than one who has died so people like Golden Eagles can call me a turkey and my posts idiotic and so he can live his idyllic life chasing little white balls on huge swaths of damaged ecosystem requires little. Simply a bit of gratitude, a hint of humility and an apology for insinuating he shared the honor of those who risk all so his words could have more weight in his attempt to shut me up, as he claimed.

Dead horse beaten.

Thank you. Well written.
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Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.
And there are sooo many of those named crimes. As a professional driver for many years, I think MOST of these golf cart drivers need to be knocked down a peg…if not made to be licensed. FLAT OUT DANGEROUS!
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Parking on the grass?
Grass was given by God to be walked on, NOT parked on…
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