[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

Gracie, no apology is necessary. You seem to understand this serious problem better than most. It is interesting to see how the Ksrdashians are trying very successfully so to control the story and their possible role in pushing this man over the edge. We are all a product of our environment and he was part of that low life family for a while, as I understand it. I wonder just what drives good folks to watch such trash.

From a recent survey, approval of an assortment of items in descending order:

Brussels sprouts
Lice
Colonoscopies
Root canals
Used car salesmen
traffic jams
France
cockroaches
Genghis Khan

Congress

Lindsey Lohan
Bullies
Telemarketers
Gonorrhea
Ebola

The Kardashians

North Korea
meth labs

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

It may very well a big obstacle. But at least it gives him access to first class addiction treatment. Many other addicts aren't in a position to get that care. What he does from there is up to him

All addicts have the same access to care if they really want it. AA and similar type meetings are free and help more than any other treatment. All it takes is a phone call. The amount of money you spend is of little significance. You can spend $100 an hour ( or $1000) an hour for one psychiatrist or $1.00 ( typical AA donation) an hour and get the benefit of 100 people who understand the disease better. Your last sentence says it all. It is up to him. We have all seemingly diagnosed this man as needing help yet it is his self diagnosis that is the only one that counts. I have a feeling that once he wakes up surrounded by that reprehensible family, he will again be diagnosed as being "cured".

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

All addicts have the same access to care if they really want it. AA and similar type meetings are free and help more than any other treatment. All it takes is a phone call. The amount of money you spend is of little significance. You can spend $100 an hour ( or $1000) an hour for one psychiatrist or $1.00 ( typical AA donation) an hour and get the benefit of 100 people who understand the disease better. Your last sentence says it all. It is up to him. We have all seemingly diagnosed this man as needing help yet it is his self diagnosis that is the only one that counts. I have a feeling that once he wakes up surrounded by that reprehensible family, he will again be diagnosed as being "cured".

I don't think meetings are going to cut it for him.. He needs intensive inpatient treatment. At an upscale place, like that Malibu place that's advertised, his fellow patients are likely to be Hollywood celebrities, idle rich, and fallen sports heroes. He may relate better to them than a Narcotics Anonymous meeting in Harlem (then again, maybe not)

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I don't think meetings are going to cut it for him.. He needs intensive inpatient treatment. At an upscale place, like that Malibu place that's advertised, his fellow patients are likely to be Hollywood celebrities, idle rich, and fallen sports heroes. He may relate better to them than a Narcotics Anonymous meeting in Harlem (then again, maybe not)

Class status has nothing to do with this. There are no high class or low class drunks or addicts. Just drunks and addicts. If this man has a problem he has to view himself as equal or lower than Harlem drunk sitting on a curb with a bottle in a paper bag or under the stairwell with a needle in his arm.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

Class status has nothing to do with this. There are no high class or low class drunks or addicts. Just drunks and addicts. If this man has a problem he has to view himself as equal or lower than Harlem drunk sitting on a curb with a bottle in a paper bag or under the stairwell with a needle in his arm.

Maybe!?

That view is in the eye of the beholder since either class that has never been in one or the other has no such relationship issue to feel better/worse about or relate to and even if they did it would most likely not affect the direction to be taken next.

[Barefoot]

Odom has been an idiot about his health. And about refusing to seek help for his addictions.
Not everyone gets a second chance at life - I hope he uses his wisely.

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Maybe!?

That view is in the eye of the beholder since either class that has never been in one or the other has no such relationship issue to feel better/worse about or relate to and even if they did it would most likely not affect the direction to be taken next.

No Billy, that view is in the eye of the experts and those who have been through it. Fact is that putting investment bankers in the same rehab group with other investment bankers is exactly what is not done. More likely they would be placed in a group with curbside alcoholics.

[Walt.]

Originally Posted by village dreamer

75k for hookers????? what happen to the 2 bit hookers grand pa talked about???

Maybe he was lining up an incredible number of them...

[John Palanci]

To much money, not enough brains

Such a waste of life. And such a shame. I don't care how much he wasted his life, it is still a life.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by village dreamer

what happen to the 2 bit hookers grand pa talked about???

I don't care how old your grandfather is he shouldn't be biting hookers!

[fpmoravcik]

It's breaking my heart

[villagerjack]

I am wondering how some in the generation of us that grew up watching shows like My Three Sons Ozzie and Harriet, Gunsmoke, Gary Moore, Loretta Young, Andy Williams ETC have now sunk into the immoral abyss of now watching what surely represents the worst of society ...the Kardishian Family. Really mind boggling.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

I am wondering how some in the generation of us that grew up watching shows like My Three Sons Ozzie and Harriet, Gunsmoke, Gary Moore, Loretta Young, Andy Williams ETC have now sunk into the immoral abyss of now watching what surely represents the worst of society ...the Kardishian Family. Really mind boggling.