Originally Posted by chelsea24

What a small minded, sad little group of people you are to be happy that AMERICA did not get the Olympics. Sigh.

BTW, have any of you actually been to Chicago? It's one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Politics aside, you are dumping on some of the most wonderful people you'll ever meet, just to say something hateful about your President. I'm very proud to be from Chicago. Mayor Daily is 1000% for his citizens. Burris is an ass and not beloved in Chi at all. I did not hear what he said, but if he's blaming Bush... that's just plain ridiculous.

So, if all you know of Chicago is what you've read in some podunk little newspaper, remember EVERY city and town has it's element of corruption.

And, sweeties, quite frankly, if you haven't lived in Chicago... You haven't lived!

With all due respect and your snide comments aside, from my perspective that "small minded, sad little group of people" that you lovingly refer to is not "happy that AMERICA did not get the Olympics" because of Chicago, but the arrogance once again displayed by our President.

When Tony Blair did the work for London and the 2012 Olympics, he spent days there talking and meeting with the folks that he had to convince. Our President, who more and more is acting like a rock star instead of a President, flew in and spoke......and by the way, it is reported that his speech was biographical in nature, in other words PERSONAL...and that that his mere showing up would clinch the deal.

It does not work that way in the real world, whether you like it or not.

Those who you sarcastically go after just want our President to be the President and instead of all the tv appearances, the rock star atttidue...attack the issues like Iran, Afghanastan, etc.

I sure do not criticize him for trying to get the olympics, but it sure seemed like a bad time (Afghanastan for example) to try and do what he did however but folks can sense when you feel that your presence alone is sufficient.

Maybe, just maybe, if the President and his wife had not spoken about THEMSELVES and more about the country the vote would have been different, however I dont think even that would have helped !

To think that BHO could make a quick 4 hour stop to close a business deal on the Olympics because he is the POTUS blows my mind. I have to also agree with the media on his arrival to Copenhagen when they said... "The Ego has landed!" And how much did this trip cost taxpayers and how big of a carbon footprint did he leave in his wake? When we got the lowest amount of votes, I was so embarrassed. He needs to wake up!

Originally Posted by chelsea24

What a small minded, sad little group of people you are to be happy that AMERICA did not get the Olympics. Sigh.

BTW, have any of you actually been to Chicago? It's one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Politics aside, you are dumping on some of the most wonderful people you'll ever meet, just to say something hateful about your President. I'm very proud to be from Chicago. Mayor Daily is 1000% for his citizens. Burris is an ass and not beloved in Chi at all. I did not hear what he said, but if he's blaming Bush... that's just plain ridiculous.

So, if all you know of Chicago is what you've read in some podunk little newspaper, remember EVERY city and town has it's element of corruption.

And, sweeties, quite frankly, if you haven't lived in Chicago... You haven't lived!

Chels:

I for one did not say anything bad against the people of Chicago. I am there at least 6 times a year and I do enjoy the lakefront and restaurants along with Navy Pier. I do NOT like the politicians of CROOK county. Do not like all the taxes from bottled water to parking. I used to take my boat there and dock for a day, it is now cost prohibitive.
The last survey I saw the people of Chicago were 65% against the Olympics. I believe they too were getting tired of the Politicos. Last night evening news they had surveys If they wanted 2010 Olympics . Survey was 75% against another try.
Bucco is correct. Obama and Oprah thought they had the votes, I'm glad the IOC voted as they did. It was funny to see Burris blame Bush for their loss.
I was surprised that PALIN was also not mentioned.

in England did an editorial strictly aimed at the current US President and his short comings to date. The article gave him good grades for eloquence and a "failing" grade for accomplishment. It went into detail about his speeches outside the US promising what was to happen with no results.

One thing I came to appreciate while in Europe (and desperately miss) is the Europeans candor. Their thought process is not clouded by the interruption of reality by political correctness....as we are here in the USA. They say what they think.....quite refreshing. They also (like a lot of us here in the US) that when the head of the country gets up on the stage and pontificates what will happen.....they are really wierd....they expect it to happen.

I find that the non USA editorial from around the world to be much more informative than the puppeteer media of the USA. Try it. You will see a huge difference of opinion. The other aspect many will not like is they do not go back in time to recalibrate a current event in terms of somebody elses watch. The current administration owns it from day one.

Anyway my pitch for this mornings round.

Does anybody think Nancy and her "gang" won't try to use they majority vote (if they can get one) to pass what ever they want in the name of health care reform......or if only Olympia Snow does fall in their direction that they won't crow about how bi-partisan they are. That too may be legal but it sure ain't representative democracy!!!

btk

Originally Posted by chelsea24

What a small minded, sad little group of people you are to be happy that AMERICA did not get the Olympics. Sigh.

BTW, have any of you actually been to Chicago? It's one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Politics aside, you are dumping on some of the most wonderful people you'll ever meet, just to say something hateful about your President. I'm very proud to be from Chicago. Mayor Daily is 1000% for his citizens. Burris is an ass and not beloved in Chi at all. I did not hear what he said, but if he's blaming Bush... that's just plain ridiculous.

So, if all you know of Chicago is what you've read in some podunk little newspaper, remember EVERY city and town has it's element of corruption.

And, sweeties, quite frankly, if you haven't lived in Chicago... You haven't lived!

omg why is it I have to be personal with you all the time?
I have been to Chicago many times. For the most part I have liked Chi. However, today, Chicago is little more than a toilet. I understand that nobody wants to admit that they live in a toilet. Chi is corrupt. It has been for as long as I can remember. Daily is a thug, just as his father before him was a thug.

I would have liked Chicago to get the Olympics but since they did not, I am happy that the games will be held in SA. Don't call me small minded, just honest. Chi sucks. It is not the fault of the people but the fault of the politicians.

Chels, you got to get off the koolaid. It is not good for you at your age.

Yoda

Originally Posted by dklassen

Think about it. Why would anyone want to give the Olympics to the USA after Obama traveled around the world apologizing and putting down the USA.

When does he EVER say good things about the USA to the international communities?

It's one more failure just like the rest of his policies.

So its ok to say that Obama is at fault because he apologized but its NOT ok to say its Bush's fault because he thumbed his nose at the world....

Originally Posted by cologal

So its ok to say that Obama is at fault because he apologized but its NOT ok to say its Bush's fault because he thumbed his nose at the world....

"...Bush's fault because he thumbed his nose at the world"

This is entirely your opinion, and time will tell if the Obama style of apologizing, and giving in will suceed !

I am totallly opposed to his domestic agenda but willing to give him time and support for a bit on international but thus far I am not impressed in anyway....Iran has gotten what they couldnt get for years...one on one sitdown....after a strategy of 6 months of Afghan strategy, we are about to change and a number of other things bother me a lot.

AND I will continue to call those folks in Gtmo terrorists and not refugees and hope you can do some reading on these wonderful people we have imprisoned there and how well they live !

By the way, in keeping with the theme of this thread...this is from the Chicago Sun Times...

"President Obama could not undo in one year the resentment against America that President Bush and others built up for years, they said."

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/olymp...sent03.article

Originally Posted by cabo35

It didn't take long for the liberal lemmings to blame President Bush for the Obamas failed effort in Copenhagen. Given the speed of the reaction Democratic Illinois Senator Rowland Burris , you know the guy that bought the seat in Chicago, sped to a microphone to pronounce the inability to deliver the fault of President Bush. The shear speed of the response suggests it had to be a canned blame Bush reprise. Blaming Bush for Obama's failures is an accurate reflection of the unimaginative, stale, sterile, lack luster, liberal leadership occupying seats in the People's House and Congress in Washington.

Obama's only been in office for 10 months. I recall the republicans blaming Clinton for 9/11! Condi and Bush/Cheney had the "strike in America" info and sat on their hands and did nothing. Obama "lost" the Olympics big deal, Bush/Cheney lied and we've wasted, yes wasted, 4600+ lives and billions of dollars on their chickenhawk(none of the architects of this boondoggle served in Viet Nam when they were needed) warmongering and lies/incompetence.

Please tell us what were the lies that Bush and Cheney told the world.

Remember when you list these lies to first look up the definition of a lie to be sure you are not telling a lie yourself.

Originally Posted by vtcyclist

Obama's only been in office for 10 months. I recall the republicans blaming Clinton for 9/11! Condi and Bush/Cheney had the "strike in America" info and sat on their hands and did nothing. Obama "lost" the Olympics big deal, Bush/Cheney lied and we've wasted, yes wasted, 4600+ lives and billions of dollars on their chickenhawk(none of the architects of this boondoggle served in Viet Nam when they were needed) warmongering and lies/incompetence.

This is where I jump in! 4600 lives WERE NOT WASTED! Driving drunk and dieing is wasted, dieing from a drug overdose is wasted, dieing at the hands of one own parents abuse is wasted, dieing from smoking related cancer is wasted and I could go on and on. A soldier loosing his life in service to his country is NEVER WASTED. It is a loss for sure, no one wants to lose a son, daughter, father, mother, friend, from any cause. To say that our brave soldiers lives were wasted is an affront to their family, friends and country.

Originally Posted by Yoda

omg why is it I have to be personal with you all the time?
I have been to Chicago many times. For the most part I have liked Chi. However, today, Chicago is little more than a toilet. I understand that nobody wants to admit that they live in a toilet. Chi is corrupt. It has been for as long as I can remember. Daily is a thug, just as his father before him was a thug.

I would have liked Chicago to get the Olympics but since they did not, I am happy that the games will be held in SA. Don't call me small minded, just honest. Chi sucks. It is not the fault of the people but the fault of the politicians.

Chels, you got to get off the koolaid. It is not good for you at your age.

Yoda

Yoda, it's clear I've proven my point. Chicago is filled with diversity, culture and good-will. A few trips there does not an expert make. You know nothing of the lives improved by the Daley's. You know nothing of it's politics. Chicago is far from a "toilet" as you so eloquently put it. Care to share where you're from??? Let's see if we can sniff out any corruption there. FYI... there's corruption in every big city and small town.

Originally Posted by cashman

Please tell us what were the lies that Bush and Cheney told the world.

Remember when you list these lies to first look up the definition of a lie to be sure you are not telling a lie yourself.

1. Yellow Cake in Nigeria
2. Iraq had a Nuclear Program
3. Iraq was tied to Al Queala
4. The Iraq War would pay for itself
5. The Iraq War would be short
6. Iraq had WDM
7. We don't Torture

That's a short list

Originally Posted by gnu

This is where I jump in! 4600 lives WERE NOT WASTED! Driving drunk and dieing is wasted, dieing from a drug overdose is wasted, dieing at the hands of one own parents abuse is wasted, dieing from smoking related cancer is wasted and I could go on and on. A soldier loosing his life in service to his country is NEVER WASTED. It is a loss for sure, no one wants to lose a son, daughter, father, mother, friend, from any cause. To say that our brave soldiers lives were wasted is an affront to their family, friends and country.

I agree the word WASTED is an unfortunate choice. However, as an Aunt of now 3 nephews in the military....Marines, Army and Navy. And the Aunt of a Purple Heart recipient I would have preferred his life be put a risk to defend the USA not to nation build. And certainly not because the VP was ****ed off that the job hadn't been finished the first time.

My nephew's service should not be diminished in any way by the conflict in which he served.

Personally I don't really give a crap about the Olympics anyway but more importantly I don't care what the rest of the world thinks of us either.

I'd rather have them not like us rather than roll over us which is what's going to happen under Obama. They might not have liked us under Bush but that's better than being viewed as a weak kneed joke under Obama. Obama is weak and they know it.

Let's see, who was it that saved most of Europe in WWII? Who gives billions and billions of dollars to other countries? Who sheds most of the blood when other countries need help? Who's doctors travel around the world helping others who don't have access to specialized care? For free!

Another interesting fact. The UK, Germany, and others seem to have a resurgence of conservatism in their governments. Look who's winning the elections over there.