Originally Posted by Guest

When a judge actually rules on the law you say it's political?

Does that apply to Democrat judges as well ?

The judge intreprets the law as to his way of thinking. Yes, it is political in many cases. Yes, that applies to Democrat judges as well.

Look at the judge's ruling on the case of the Cleveland cop who jumped on the hood of a car and fired 15 shots directly through the windshield and killed the two people inside. You do not think that judge interpreted that into his own way of thinking?

Did you actually bother to read what happened? Your post is nonsensical - try reading what actually happened in the appeals court yesterday.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are exactly right. The Republican judge is just trying to make a name for himself as "the judge who overturned the President".

As you said, it is a temporary injunction and will most likely by taken care of in a higher court ruling.

Originally Posted by Guest

Did you actually bother to read what happened? Your post is nonsensical - try reading what actually happened in the appeals court yesterday.

I actually had looked at the wrong one. However, yesterday, the Appeals Court majority judges were both Republicans. Smith appointed by Reagan and Elrod by GW Bush. Same case outcome, both Republican appointees.

A setback but not a defeat by any means.

I generally try to avoid accusing people of misfeasance. You might want to consider doing this also.

Originally Posted by Guest

I actually had looked at the wrong one. However, yesterday, the Appeals Court majority judges were both Republicans. Smith appointed by Reagan and Elrod by GW Bush. Same case outcome, both Republican appointees.

A setback but not a defeat by any means.

Originally Posted by Guest

Let us hope that the party crap becomes history, and we get immigration reform from the congress with the WH on board.

This attitude of making everything about the party is destroying us.

The senate actually passed a comprehensive immigration bill back in 2012, that enjoyed huge bi-partisan support, but Speaker Boehner would never allow this bill to come to the floor for a vote, where it would have passed overwhelmingly. That bill died when that congress ended.

So you see, it was one political party that killed immigration reform in 2012.

Originally Posted by Guest

I actually had looked at the wrong one. However, yesterday, the Appeals Court majority judges were both Republicans. Smith appointed by Reagan and Elrod by GW Bush. Same case outcome, both Republican appointees.

A setback but not a defeat by any means.

This ruling will make immigration reform advocates more determined than ever to elect a president and congress that will pass comprehensive immigration reform.

There was not a majority of Republicans supporting the bill. Typically, bills are not brought up for vote without a majority of the majority party in favor of the bill. That is the way the House works. You might want to do a little homework in the future. The members of the House, by and large, reflect the views of their constituents.

You might want to check on how much legislation Reid suppressed in the Senate.

Originally Posted by Guest

The senate actually passed a comprehensive immigration bill back in 2012, that enjoyed huge bi-partisan support, but Speaker Boehner would never allow this bill to come to the floor for a vote, where it would have passed overwhelmingly. That bill died when that congress ended.

So you see, it was one political party that killed immigration reform in 2012.





This ruling will make immigration reform advocates more determined than ever to elect a president and congress that will pass comprehensive immigration reform.

Originally Posted by Guest

The senate actually passed a comprehensive immigration bill back in 2012, that enjoyed huge bi-partisan support, but Speaker Boehner would never allow this bill to come to the floor for a vote, where it would have passed overwhelmingly. That bill died when that congress ended.

So you see, it was one political party that killed immigration reform in 2012.





This ruling will make immigration reform advocates more determined than ever to elect a president and congress that will pass comprehensive immigration reform.

We all want immigration reform. Some of us are against Obama's open door and illegal give always.

For example closing the border now. Stop allowing mass illegal immigration now!

The senate actually passed a comprehensive immigration bill back in 2012, that enjoyed huge bi-partisan support, but Speaker Boehner would never allow this bill to come to the floor for a vote, where it would have passed overwhelmingly. That bill died when that congress ended.

So you see, it was one political party that killed immigration reform in 2012.

Actually, now that you have one side of the story, and it is ONE side and it is a STORY, I suggest you revisit this and look up facts. Sen Reid and the WH were very much aware of what they were doing here.

As I have said before, our President is one of the best politicians ever, but this country needs leadership and not fancy politics.

This bill, should you spend the time to check was a sham intended for one thing...political gain, ie. convincing you that someone else is the bad guy !

Originally Posted by Guest

There was not a majority of Republicans supporting the bill. Typically, bills are not brought up for vote without a majority of the majority party in favor of the bill. That is the way the House works. You might want to do a little homework in the future. The members of the House, by and large, reflect the views of their constituents.

You might want to check on how much legislation Reid suppressed in the Senate.

We'll never know will we, if the bill would have become law or not because Speaker Boehner would not bring it to the floor for an up or down vote? There have been times in this congress when Boehner had to rely on democrats to get certain bills passed.

Originally Posted by Guest

We'll never know will we, if the bill would have become law or not because Speaker Boehner would not bring it to the floor for an up or down vote? There have been times in this congress when Boehner had to rely on democrats to get certain bills passed.

John Boehner or most likely anybelse will not ever lock up and block as many bills as Harry Reid.

We all know his job was to keep anything Obama might not like from going anywhere.

That is not just a democratic prerogative now is it?

It is not about political affiliation its about a man who supposedly centered his education on Constitutional Law and has done nothing but ignore and abuse it for the last 6.5 years. The founding fathers had good cause to insist on a separation of powers and for you history buffs something that almost did not come to pass. People do not really understand how fragile democracy is. Its a thin line between democracy and anarchy.

The battle between the federal government and states has been ongoing since settlers first arrived in America.

The immigration issue today is more than just about our neighbors on our southern borders. We have enemies who continue to infiltrate our society legally and illegally and we need a stronger and smarter immigration policy to filter these pretenders.

But how can we when both Republicans and Democrats act like a bunch of love sick teenagers trying to get attention and favor of Hispanic voters and potential future Hispanic voters. Let me digress for a second and explain that with the 2012 election I wondered out loud why the Republican and Democrats were courting favor with only Hispanic voters and completely ignoring the Asian voters?

The latest stats indicate that Asian are the largest immigration group and have been for sometime.

so most importantly what this issue is about is a twofold protection, our Constitution and protecting our borders forget Obama, forget Boehner, focus on what Congress is going to do about those protections?

Write your Senators, congressmen/women and demand they end the Keystone Kops routines and get down to the serious business we pay them to do

This world is becoming more and more a very dangerous place


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Originally Posted by Guest

We'll never know will we, if the bill would have become law or not because Speaker Boehner would not bring it to the floor for an up or down vote? There have been times in this congress when Boehner had to rely on democrats to get certain bills passed.

It is almost overwhelming that someone would post something like this.

Boehner made it clear from the get go it would not be brought up and to bring it up after watching Sen Reid mangle the senate for so many long years that even his democratic senators grew weary and tired of his antic. So many bills that had total bipartisan support...almost all democrats, but OPPOSED by the WH never even got to the floor and he did it for years. The New York Times even got sick of it and called the democrats on it, and that is quite something.

Point is another of the tactics has been ingrained in your head. Have the Republicans done things wrong......in my opinions, yep. BUT do not make yourself look so bad bringing up something like this, especially with your tone.

This is public knowledge and only a true partisan, party person would even say what you said.

Facts: The senate passed a bi-partisan comprehensive immigration reform bill. The president said he would sign it. The house, under Speaker John Boehner's leadership, never voted on said bill.

Hillary Clinton has come out in favor of a pathway to citizenship, now we will have to wait to see what positions the 19 or 20 GOP candidates take.

Then we will have to wait another year and five months to see what direction the voters in this country want to take on immigration reform.

You really have no clue as to how Washington works. The world is grey but you should stick with your black and white view of things as it seems to suit you well.

Originally Posted by Guest

We'll never know will we, if the bill would have become law or not because Speaker Boehner would not bring it to the floor for an up or down vote? There have been times in this congress when Boehner had to rely on democrats to get certain bills passed.