[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

Just follow PolarBearScience.com for supporting data, or attend the Weather Club for more information. Global warming saves lives -- even polar bear lives.

I checked out PolarBearScience.com. It's a Blog site that is (imo) less than credible. But if it tells you what you like to hear (fantasy? ) then, by all means, enjoy.
"Weather Club for more" indoctrination is probably more accurate. Again, just mho.
Have a nice day!

[sounding]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ph4i-nrdsM

might need more than 50 years. . . is this ocean rising or land submerging?
not far from land, and not very deep. .

looks like the sea level has been rising for a very long time. . since there was a land bridge between England and Europe . .

Oceans are only rising a tiny 1.5 mm a year. Seas were about 25 feet higher during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. This is all natural climate change.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

Oceans are only rising a tiny 1.5 mm a year. Seas were about 25 feet higher during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. This is all natural climate change.

Cute yellow submarine cartoon. Adds a lot to the veracity of the cartoons assertion.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Cute yellow submarine cartoon. Adds a lot to the veracity of the cartoons assertion.

For those who enjoy science facts versus science fictions, there will soon be another "Sea Level Rise" talk in the Villages. Audiences enjoyed the last two talks. Each talk gets better each time it's given as new information is added/updated for each talk. Folks especially enjoy the yellow-submarine music.

[gorillarick]

To all of you shaking in your sandals about global warming; so what are you doing about it besides whining?

Are you still driving your 4000 pound 18mpg SUV to get a beer? Trying to minimize your energy use? Going without air conditioning? Haa
And God forbid, air travel is out! Bill Gates should sell his private jet! and AlGore and J.Kerry.
Air conditioned golf carts?
If you are so concerned, you'd do something. Yeah, all mouth.
No your Tesla is not helping; your energy is mostly coming from fossil fuel - unless your roof is covered with solar panels - and it is debatable if over their lifetime (manufacturing included) that they have a net 0 either. Haa

“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race.”
H.G. Wells

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

To all of you shaking in your sandals about global warming; so what are you doing about it besides whining?

Are you still driving your 4000 pound 18mpg SUV to get a beer? Trying to minimize your energy use? Going without air conditioning? Haa
And God forbid, air travel is out! Bill Gates should sell his private jet! and AlGore and J.Kerry.
Air conditioned golf carts?
If you are so concerned, you'd do something. Yeah, all mouth.
No your Tesla is not helping; your energy is mostly coming from fossil fuel - unless your roof is covered with solar panels - and it is debatable if over their lifetime (manufacturing included) that they have a net 0 either. Haa

“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race.”
H.G. Wells

But isn't a failure to practice what they preach a hallmark of all cults, especially their leaders?????

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

To all of you shaking in your sandals about global warming; so what are you doing about it besides whining?

Not whining or shaking, just keeping an open mind and noticing trends and correlations.

Are you still driving your 4000 pound 18mpg SUV to get a beer? Trying to minimize your energy use? Going without air conditioning? Haa
And God forbid, air travel is out! Bill Gates should sell his private jet! and AlGore and J.Kerry.
Air conditioned golf carts?

No
Yes
No
Haven't traveled by air in years (though there is an European trip coming up that will require it)
No

If you are so concerned, you'd do something. Yeah, all mouth.

You believe you know the answer before asking the question or considering the data. Seems to be common among deniers.

No your Tesla is not helping; your energy is mostly coming from fossil fuel - unless your roof is covered with solar panels - and it is debatable if over their lifetime (manufacturing included) that they have a net 0 either. Haa

Well actually....
- Energy for the Tesla may be mostly fossil fuel but energy for ICE is 100% fossil fuels. Power on the grid is a mix of fossil, hydroelectric, wind, solar, and nuclear. US electricity is down to 60% fossil fuel (FL lags behind at about 82%). That seems helpful.

- The energy for my electric cart is less than half the cost for my gas cart. This could be due to the mixture of energy sources for electrical generation, increased efficiency in electrical generation, or better efficiency of the electric motor. In any case, an EV uses less fossil fuel than an ICE for the same distance traveled. It seems like that would help.

- At just 2,000 miles/year, my electric cart is saving me $200 in gas money, at least 20 trips to the gas station, and $150 in fuel costs overall compared to driving a car. That helps me.

- Debatable? "Unknown" would be a more accurate word. "Debatable" only due to speculation and "whataboutism."

[gorillarick]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Not whining or shaking, just keeping an open mind and noticing trends and correlations.


No
Yes
No
Haven't traveled by air in years (though there is an European trip coming up that will require it)
No


You believe you know the answer before asking the question or considering the data. Seems to be common among deniers.


Well actually....
- Energy for the Tesla may be mostly fossil fuel but energy for ICE is 100% fossil fuels. Power on the grid is a mix of fossil, hydroelectric, wind, solar, and nuclear. US electricity is down to 60% fossil fuel (FL lags behind at about 82%). That seems helpful.

- The energy for my electric cart is less than half the cost for my gas cart. This could be due to the mixture of energy sources for electrical generation, increased efficiency in electrical generation, or better efficiency of the electric motor. In any case, an EV uses less fossil fuel than an ICE for the same distance traveled. It seems like that would help.

- At just 2,000 miles/year, my electric cart is saving me $200 in gas money, at least 20 trips to the gas station, and $150 in fuel costs overall compared to driving a car. That helps me.

- Debatable? "Unknown" would be a more accurate word. "Debatable" only due to speculation and "whataboutism."

"Seems to be common among deniers."

Name calling ? Modus operandi

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

Haa

That's tellin' 'em! 😠

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Do you have any science at all for that assertion? Is the population of polar bears increasing or is the count becoming more inclusive and more accurate? Perhaps previously uncounted populations are now being driven into regions where counting occurs.

"Enhances life of all types?" I think you mean all types of life except those that are dying off due to excessive heat.

Dear Bill,
"S", whom you responded to is pushing an agenda. As such, he will recommend as references only those places, sites or articles that reflect favorably on his position.
I suggest checking major internationally recognized sites, such as World Wildlife Federation (WWF) to see how the various populations of polar bears are doing. There are @ 19 various populations, I believe. Some seem to be increasing, some are decreasing and some seem stable. Some are so remote the information is sketchy. The increases are related to protection, inspire of habitat loss.
Enjoy your "hunt" (research) for the magnificent polar bear. 🙂🙃🫠😉

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Dear Bill,
"S", whom you responded to is pushing an agenda. As such, he will recommend as references only those places, sites or articles that reflect favorably on his position.
I suggest checking major internationally recognized sites, such as World Wildlife Federation (WWF) to see how the various populations of polar bears are doing. There are @ 19 various populations, I believe. Some seem to be increasing, some are decreasing and some seem stable. Some are so remote the information is sketchy. The increases are related to protection, inspire of habitat loss.
Enjoy your "hunt" (research) for the magnificent polar bear. 🙂🙃🫠😉

Or -- for some reality, just Google $50,000 polar bear hunts -- and you too can help control polar bear overpopulation. Unknownist to the climate cult, global warming save lives - all life forms - even cultists. Currently food production is increasing while famines are decreasing -- thanks to global warming and increasing CO2. CO2 will be discussed in detail Dec 19 at 1:30 at Laurel Manor.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

Or -- for some reality, just Google $50,000 polar bear hunts -- and you too can help control polar bear overpopulation. Unknownist to the climate cult, global warming save lives - all life forms - even cultists. Currently food production is increasing while famines are decreasing -- thanks to global warming and increasing CO2. CO2 will be discussed in detail Dec 19 at 1:30 at Laurel Manor.

For some more reality, you can cherry pick stuff to paint any picture you want. Various places allow native subsistence hunting. Others allow strictly regulated hunts. If you are desperate enough to kill any kind of animal, and can afford the price tag, you can go kill whatever your little heart desires. It isn't really about holding down polar bear population as much as it is about feeding the ego of would be big game hunters for $$$. Left alone, mother nature will regulate animal populations.
You can even go hunt the fabulous musk ox, for money. But why? They look impressive, but it's like shooting fish in a barrel. They are raised like cattle in many places. Big whoop! Might just as well go to the local dairy and pay the farmer to let you kill one of his cows. Cut down on cow farts?

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

For some more reality, you can cherry pick stuff to paint any picture you want. Various places allow native subsistence hunting. Others allow strictly regulated hunts. If you are desperate enough to kill any kind of animal, and can afford the price tag, you can go kill whatever your little heart desires. It isn't really about holding down polar bear population as much as it is about feeding the ego of would be big game hunters for $$$. Left alone, mother nature will regulate animal populations.
You can even go hunt the fabulous musk ox, for money. But why? They look impressive, but it's like shooting fish in a barrel. They are raised like cattle in many places. Big whoop! Might just as well go to the local dairy and pay the farmer to let you kill one of his cows. Cut down on cow farts?

The fact is ... there are too many polar bears so the international community engages in annual harvests. The amazing part is that people still send money to scam organizations claiming to save the polar bears.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

Or -- for some reality, just Google $50,000 polar bear hunts -- and you too can help control polar bear overpopulation. Unknownist to the climate cult, global warming save lives - all life forms - even cultists. Currently food production is increasing while famines are decreasing -- thanks to global warming and increasing CO2. CO2 will be discussed in detail Dec 19 at 1:30 at Laurel Manor.

Food production has zip to do with global warming compared to increased farming and improved techniques.
Oh, and don't forget to take your CO2 fire extinguisher to demonstrate how great it is for all life forms by blankets a terrarium in CO2. Breath deep. It's good for you. You said so!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

The fact is ... there are too many polar bears so the international community engages in annual harvests. The amazing part is that people still send money to scam organizations claiming to save the polar bears.

"Too many" according to who and by what standards?

"International community engages in annual harvests?" Didn't you previously point to a for-profit, pay-per-kill license. Sounds less like a internationally-approved harvest and more like a locally-approved fundraiser.